Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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China is emerging as the voice of reason and that's why much of the world is looking towards it for leadership.
And when is China's new lapdog going to be fit for a dog collar?
Was this the result of the SMO that you had hoped for?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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This will make prices of gas go up and end up hurting energy importing countries, mainly in Europe. Thanks America, you are de-industrialzing Europe and many people are aware of this. What a great friend and ally!

I think eventually the Germans will wake up and realize that the Nordstream pipeline was blown up so stop the cooperation between Germany and Russia. I wonder which country with a big energy sector could do such a horrible thing!

Thank you America for weakening Europe.

raildogg, you ignorant slut.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Uh oh. If Russia unleashed a barrage of missile strikes against Ukraine in retaliation for some pinprick refinery strikes, can you imagine what their response is going to be for this?
You still think you can fuck with us and find out?
How many dead Russians do you want?

You got 430,000 casualties and counting.
Maybe some of you would like to live.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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You still think you can fuck with us and find out?
How many dead Russians do you want?

You got 430,000 casualties and counting.
Maybe some of you would like to live.
It seems like Russia has decided to commit suicide by West. Question is how long to entertain the bullshit before granting them their wish.
 

cytg111

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Peter Zeihan is now of the conviction that nukes are gonna fly no matter what.

(Zeihan has gotten plenty of things wrong, listen to the rationale and dont take it as 100% nostra dumbass predition.)

 

bononos

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Russian strikes on Ukrainian energy infrastructure are not new. Some of us remember when they explicitly tried to freeze the Ukrainians to death over the winter of 22-23.

Putin tends to fire a lot of missiles when he is unhappy about something. He is unhappy about damaged refineries causing him problems at home.
I think the Russian attacks on energy infrastructure were targeting distribution facilities like transformer stations and not power generation plants similar to what the US did in Iraq. Transformer stations can be fixed alot more easily and faster compared to a big fossil fuel power station getting destroyed. Don't recall Ukrainian energy infrastructure getting targeted that much in 2023.

It looks like the Dnipro hydroelectric station getting bombed would be a retaliatory attack for the bombing of the oil refineries which is a escalation in the war.
 

bononos

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I'm curious if some of russia's recent success is because they have access to phony stark's equipment. It sure seems like things have picked up for them since it was mentioned earlier in this topic.
Someone posted this video earlier which lists the reasons-
Ukraine is low on artillery ammo which is giving Russia a big artillery advantage now.
Russia has a big advantage in manpower in Avdiivka showing the difficulty of recruitment/manpower shortage in Ukraine.
Russia managed to amass a substantial army/equipment in the east to first repel and counter the Ukrainian 2023 offensive.
Russian forces in the fight for Avdiivka showed improved tactical abilities.
Better ISR capabilities - drones, intelligence, satellites (which probably gave them the location of the recent high value targets like Himars/patriot etc)
Air defense shortages giving Russia some local air superiority giving Russia opportunities to launch more gliding bombs.
Poor Ukrainian command and control, some units retreated without official orders showing their distrust of leadership using them as meat or just plain incompetence.

Ukraine does look like its losing and needs help which is why France has made the move to announce the possibility of sending NATO soldiers to Ukraine.
 
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itsmydamnation

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I think the Russian attacks on energy infrastructure were targeting distribution facilities like transformer stations and not power generation plants similar to what the US did in Iraq. Transformer stations can be fixed alot more easily and faster compared to a big fossil fuel power station getting destroyed. Don't recall Ukrainian energy infrastructure getting targeted that much in 2023.

It looks like the Dnipro hydroelectric station getting bombed would be a retaliatory attack for the bombing of the oil refineries which is a escalation in the war.
What is this crap , Russian shelled nuclear power stations ffs ..

Also you have the targets for all ground attack munitions Russia has launched for the war?

It would stand to reason you would have the strongest umbrella on the most critical infrastructure. Much more likely Russia just doesn't have the capability to hit Ukrainian power stations.

Russia has no problems leveling apartment buildings... Ukraine escalation. Get the fuck out of here you lying fuck stick. only one side had crematoriums on trucks, revisionism at its finest .....
 

bononos

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What is this crap , Russian shelled nuclear power stations ffs ..

Also you have the targets for all ground attack munitions Russia has launched for the war?

It would stand to reason you would have the strongest umbrella on the most critical infrastructure. Much more likely Russia just doesn't have the capability to hit Ukrainian power stations.

Russia has no problems leveling apartment buildings... Ukraine escalation. Get the fuck out of here you lying fuck stick. only one side had crematoriums on trucks, revisionism at its finest .....

Which power generation stations have been hit and destroyed in Ukraine? It would take years to rebuild and restore power, instead of weeks which is what seems to have happened.
Which nuclear power stations have been destroyed in Ukraine by Russia? As you can see here, Russians attacked the power grid and not the nuclear power stations themselves.

As I said earlier Russia has attacked the Dnipro hydroelection station and other power stations as a retaliatory move against Ukraine targeting their oil refineries which was an escalatory move since refineries could take years to rebuild.

I did not make any comments about apartment buildings being bombed, crematoriums etc. So far you are the lying f*ckstick who is making personal comments.
 
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fskimospy

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Which power generation stations have been hit and destroyed in Ukraine? It would take years to rebuild and restore power, instead of weeks which is what seems to have happened.
Which nuclear power stations have been destroyed in Ukraine by Russia? As you can see here, Russians attacked the power grid and not the nuclear power stations themselves.

As I said earlier Russia has attacked the Dnipro hydroelection station and other power stations as a retaliatory move against Ukraine targeting their oil refineries which was an escalatory move since refineries could take years to rebuild.

I did not make any comments about apartment buildings being bombed, crematoriums etc. So far you are the lying f*ckstick who is making personal comments.
Russia has attacked power generation in addition to the power grid from almost the beginning.

 

K1052

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Russia has and continues to target Ukrainian power plants. This is not really in dispute.

Stepped up missile attacks on Ukraine are probably a result of the successful and ongoing targeting of Russian refinery infrastructure. Retaliatory strikes from RU are entirely the norm when Ukraine is achieving success because Putin gets angry and demands them.
 
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cytg111

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Zeihan says the recent UKR strikes on Russian Oil has been vastly more effective at keeping Russian oil(or was it crude?) off the market than the sanctions has for the entirety of their duration.

These strikes are NOT nothing.
 
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K1052

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Zeihan says the recent UKR strikes on Russian Oil has been vastly more effective at keeping Russian oil(or was it crude?) off the market than the sanctions has for the entirety of their duration.

These strikes are NOT nothing.

Exports of Russian crude are not impacted. Their domestic fuel situation could deteriorate substantially though which is a large problem without easy fixes, assuming Ukraine can keep up and expand this strike program.
 
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