Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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itsmydamnation

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Can you please drop the propaganda for half a second, or is that beyond your ability?
My glass is full, thanks, don't need more mind poison.

Also what a sick joke to hear that when Ukraine became one of the most corrupt countries with one of the highest tiers of forced prostitution in Europe after Maidan and the Western takeover.
Your brain in munted , you are a lying sack of shit. One country and one country alone decided to invade Ukraine multiple times you fuckwit.


Seriously dumb as a fucking post.
 

fskimospy

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No propaganda, it is just the reality of what Ukrainian civilians experienced when Russian troops rolled in. Even the ones that leaned towards Russia quickly realized this was a mistake with all the murder, raping and looting from the Russian soldiers. You know it is bad when commercial imaging satellites are able to document Russian war crimes. This was a big mistake by the Russia, if they could have portrayed themselves better as liberators they might have stood a better chance of taking Ukraine. Instead they alienated Russian leaning Ukrainians and now Ukrainians are going to dig in and fight.

Seriously, castrating surrendered soldiers?

She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrived
Not to mention this is not Ukraine’s first experience with Russian ‘brotherhood’.

 

kage69

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Guys, this really isn't that hard. The reason Russia's neighbors do not want to join with it is because Russia is a backwards, poor, degenerate society.

For example Ukraine and Poland were in basically the same place when the USSR collapsed. One stayed with Russia, one turned west. Why would anyone want to stay in Russia's orbit?


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Also it is frankly hilarious that these clowns keep trying to blame Russia's invasion of Ukraine on the US. Russia chose to invade Ukraine - it is no one's fault but their own. Russia tried to topple Ukraine's government and install a vassal one but their army was too incompetent to get the job done. That's why you now have hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded orcs.


We'll only confuse them with facts and common sense I'm afraid.

So here's some more confusion for them I guess. Baltic states took off after leaving the Russian shithole Ukraine just wants to do what they did, with corruption as much as economic opportunity.

"The Baltic States’ ability to transition from the state-run enterprise to a free-market approach is nothing short of remarkable. According to the Economic Freedom of the World Index, the Baltic States’ economies have the highest levels of economic freedom in all of Eastern Europe. From the economic low point in 1995 to 2017, Estonia’s economic freedom rose from 53 to 13, Latvia’s rose from 77 to 24 and Lithuania rose from 82 to 16.

The subsequent increase in foreign investment, namely from the European Union, facilitated the rapid growth in the Baltic States’ economies, averaging more than 9% year-over-year growth for much of the 21st century. Furthermore, high rates of economic growth allowed for stronger relationships with the European Union, leading to elevated living standards and a more insulated economy."



And as you know life expectancy increased across the board as well. While it really isn't hard for rational people to understand this, for fascist shills it's quite problematic. Look at the delusions it induces in them.
 

Meghan54

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I disagree, actually. The Empire has reached its extension limits without question. Iraq and Afghanistan proved how all the might of the American Army just weren't enough to change the world their way anymore.
Iraq went to become the bedrock of islamic terrorism and Afghanistan just went back to the Taliban in a matter of 3 days, as if the whole 20 year affair was a strange dream.

But I don't think they're taking Ukraine out of a conscious attempt. I think the Empire runs on a mindless creel of multiple agents that people collectively call the Deep State, but really, there's nobody in the pilot seat anymore. Not Joe, not the one before Joe, possibly nobody's been really leading the thing since the 60s and JFK ate a bullet for trying to do what Eisenhower didn't dare try.

I think they took Ukraine because...because whoever at the CIA had that as the next post-it taped to his monitor. There's nobody realising what they're doing, they're just doing whatever they're paid for, and as always with administrations, including unofficial ones, you're paid to do a job, and the more of that job you do, the more your job is considered important. The more wars, the more army, the more conflicts, the more CIA/NSA/agencies, etc.

In my mind the U.S Empire is literally a mindless hydra eating what it sees and understanding less and less why it does it every year. It's not like the policies have changed since the 1980s.

Well, when people start believing that extending the imperial military arm that is NATO is a sign of "territorial sovereignty", they'll believe anything.
Here, just earlier, someone was going "the U.S is not an Empire, because we do good things. China or Russia are Empires because they do bad things".
I'm sure the Iraqis, Ukrainians, Germans, and whoever else has to be sacrificed will fully agree and love to be under imperial control.

The scariest part to me is that all these milifans who diddle themselves on how big their weapons are or how advanced their systems are or how fat the tonnage of the american navy is, do not pay any mind to how utterly self destructive kicking Russia out of the dollar and out of SWIFT is.

When you are a falling empire, the ONE THING you want to absolutely not do is wrap your jaws around someone's head, say very loudly "LOOK AT WHAT I CAN DO", bite down on them, and then they go "well, that wasn't too bad". Nothing says Paper Tiger harder than that.
"We will kick Russia out of the dollar and their economy will be WRECKED!!!!!"
Russia's still up and running 2 years later.
"We will kick Russia out of SWIFT and they won't be able to do any international payments!!!!!"
SWIFT was built decades ago. Russia replaced it with a jerry rigged homemade SWIFT in a matter of weeks.

This is the quickest, most complete admission of your actual weakness that I've seen in forever. It's Suez Canal Crisis Britain tier.

Ah yes that one is always hilarious too.

Imagine that your neighbor wants to buy your water, so you extend your hose all the way to his garden.
Then you have a disagreement, so you:
A) turn off the faucet at your house
B) ignore the disagreement and just keep the water running, he's still paying after all
C) go to his garden and BLOW UP THE HOSE (and probably make a bunch of funny orc noises and jump around screaming)

Clearly, of course, without question or any doubt left, it's C. Because Putin is crazy you see. That's the perfect explanation for everything. You don't need to provide motive or justifications: the foe is crazy. That's the reason for anything, he has no reason to do things because he's crazy. It's very sad that since 2000s that he was in power, we never noticed he was crazy. Did you see when Carlson went to interview him, how he was unhinged, took off his clothes, started jumping around making WOOOO WOOO WOOO AWOOOOOOOOGA noises, downing an entire Vodka bottle before rolling on the floor while pissing his pants? Clearly, the man's mad.

I do think Putin expected it to be shorter, he didn't think the americans would be this crazy or silly. He thought a show of force would prove intent, before realising too late that it wouldn't happen.
Also he trusted a Brit with an unsigned agreement. Silly Vladdy.

While playing Battlefield 1942 main theme and humming it to the words "Slava Ukraini".

I mean, proxy wars aren't new.
The sheer arrogance of thinking that a proxy war with weapons supply would suffice against a 4/1 demographics differential, vs an industrialised nation that still retains technological and military independence.

Proxy vs Proxy can work. Not vs an actual power. Which they somehow deluded themselves into thinking that Russia wasn't.

The typical Hero, you need one every war.
If you don't have one, just invent him.
TL;DR a wall of horseshit
 
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cytg111

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Goddamnit, attrition to the end.
Those poor sods are just going to get grinded down for nothing.
If we're not even in overt attack mode/crushing mode, that means that they'll just keep going slowly and methodically until there's barely any response/anyone alive on the Ukr side.

War is hell and I'm reminded every time I have to write something like that.

I take it this is admission on your part of being .ru right?
 

raildogg

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Deputy Prime Minister – Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov met with Minister of Economy of the Republic of Azerbaijan Mikayil Jabbarov. The ministers discussed issues of trade and economic cooperation between the two countries.

Russian-Azerbaijani trade is showing promising growth. Our cooperation in the industrial sector is progressing positively overall, with several significant joint projects underway in key areas of the economy,” Denis Manturov said.

He mentioned projects in automotive manufacturing, railway engineering, aircraft production, and pharmaceuticals as notable examples. Additionally, there is substantial potential in e-commerce.

Denis Manturov concluded the meeting by extending an invitation to his counterpart to attend the Innoprom international industrial expo in Yekaterinburg on 8–11 July 2024.

Azerbaijan and Rusisa moving closer and Armenia is moving further away.

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“The European Union and the United States acknowledged the substantial progress Armenia has made since 2018 on democratic and justice reforms and the fight against corruption, and expressed a commitment to continue partnering with and supporting Armenia as it further strengthens its democracy and the rule of law, in line with our shared values and principles”, the statement read.


Describing EU-Armenian relations as “increasingly aligned,” Van der Leyen also praised Armenia’s efforts to combat sanctions-busting trade that helps the Kremlin prosecute its war against Ukraine. Pashinyan and other Armenian leaders in recent months have expressed interest in exploring EU accession.

US assistance, it appears, will focus on building Armenian “resilience” following the loss of Karabakh. Specifically, Washington’s assistance will help Armenia cope with a refugee surge and withstand expected Russian pressure to prevent Armenia’s geopolitical realignment. USAID Administrator Samantha Power also attended the April 5 gathering in Brussels.

“The United States will work with Armenia to … increase cybersecurity cooperation, and expand technology infrastructure,” the joint statement noted, adding that the US is “committed to Armenia’s safe, reliable, and secure energy future and is working to support energy diversification and explore the feasibility of new civil nuclear power options.”


Man, this Eurasian geopolitics is hard to understand - shifting alliances, balances of power, etc. One thing we can tell though is that the Brits and Americans are watching carefully Eurasian geopolitics.
 

Mahboi

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Insults insults insults. Lies ignorance and propaganda.
Insults insults insults.
And yet again tech nerds prove that you can understand extremely complex CPU stuff and not understand the first thing about politics.
Oh well, I wasn't expecting anything anyway.
 

Mahboi

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TL;DR a wall of horseshit
I posted about 10-15 posts in this thread, and got about twice as many responses.

100% was full denial
~75% were insults and nothing else
~25% tried to give a sarcastic response
0% counterarguments were presented

The Empire is falling, never have I seen it so directly and obviously than right now.
Just a question of time and dollar inflation now.
 

raildogg

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One thing about this empire though - it always needs an external enemy. Have you noticed that? Every few years or so, there is a new external enemy and some of these enemies are on a rotation. Maybe this is to justify spending $1 trillion on "defense" spending? Not that spending that much money and going much further into debt is a worry of US politicians. Lindsay Graham and other similar neocons now are calling for war with Iran. Is the US congress going to publicly shame him like their did with Rashida Tlaib? No, he will be congratulated for being a good US politician and putting military industrial complex and big corporations first.
 
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kage69

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The Russians overran this location in 2022 and left them. They've been sitting there since 2017 so likely none were usable and the Russians wasted an Iskander on them to make a nice video.


Makes me think of an interview I just saw with a British journalist who spent some time with an AFU unit out in the middle of nowhere. He was talking about how this group, which was a mortar crew, discovered an abandoned Russian field piece back in 2023. 122mm I think, not sure. Anyway it was missing some wheels, some odds and ends but otherwise was functionally sound. So these guys spend months slowly cleaning it up, grabbing parts from other cannons to bring this one back up to full working order. They are very proud of it, have used it in battle and killed with it.

The Brit was like "so you rebuilt it, but you guys were never trained on it yet fought with it?"

"Correct."

"How did you manage that?"

"Youtube."

 
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itsmydamnation

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And yet again tech nerds prove that you can understand extremely complex CPU stuff and not understand the first thing about politics.
Oh well, I wasn't expecting anything anyway.
The politics hasn't changed since the start of the rules based order. What changed is Russia invading Ukraine. It's that simple , your dumb as a post but think your smart. Real dunning Kruger guy you are.
 
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fskimospy

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I posted about 10-15 posts in this thread, and got about twice as many responses.

100% was full denial
~75% were insults and nothing else
~25% tried to give a sarcastic response
0% counterarguments were presented

The Empire is falling, never have I seen it so directly and obviously than right now.
Just a question of time and dollar inflation now.
Ok. Your argument was claims of looting, rape and murder were propaganda. (At least that’s what I could get from your post)

I provided a counter argument showing voluminous evidence of Russian war crimes, including looting, rape and murder. You did not respond and are now whining about the lack of counter arguments.

Here’s the link again in case that’s helpful.

 

Young Grasshopper

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The demilitarization of NATO continues, and they’re officially out of Patriot systems to send to Ukraine:


Much like they’re doing with shells, NATO is now going to dig thru their couch cushions looking for more Patriots to send.

Kind of makes you wonder what has been happening to their existing Patriot systems right?

This is what happens when you decide to ‘stick it to Russia’ instead of supporting a peace agreement, like I have been calling for since this war started.
 
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kage69

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One thing about this empire though - it always needs an external enemy. Have you noticed that? Every few years or so, there is a new external enemy and some of these enemies are on a rotation. Maybe this is to justify spending $1 trillion on "defense" spending? Not that spending that much money and going much further into debt is a worry of US politicians.


What I've noticed time and time again is that you need to heed my advice and get educated, read some history books. It would save you a lot of embarrassment, like posting the steamer above.

What you've just described is Russia's MO since the 1920s. Russia wants enemies. America wants customers. It also has an economy the envy of the developed world, while Russia and it's system are a global joke.

You are comically bad at this. Russia has justified everyone's defense spending, and it's just incredible that you lack the mental fortitude and/or honesty to acknowledge it. What is it you hope to convince people of after proving yourself to be a soft headed liar?
 
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Meghan54

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Ok. Your argument was claims of looting, rape and murder were propaganda. (At least that’s what I could get from your post)

I provided a counter argument showing voluminous evidence of Russian war crimes, including looting, rape and murder. You did not respond and are now whining about the lack of counter arguments.

Here’s the link again in case that’s helpful.

He won’t or can’t read it. Ever wonder where these walls of text come from? Completely prepared for idiots like rawdog, et al, to copy paste into wherever they’ve been assigned to flood with disinformation and propaganda.
 

Mahboi

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Man, this Eurasian geopolitics is hard to understand - shifting alliances, balances of power, etc. One thing we can tell though is that the Brits and Americans are watching carefully Eurasian geopolitics.
Very sadly for Armenia, it's simple.
Azerbaijan resells the Russian oil that the americans forbid the Europeans from buying. With a 30% markup of course.
So as long as Russia exports through Azerbaijan, they are a sort of forced ally. Azerbaijan has been a nemesis of Armenia for...I have no idea, centuries possibly.

Russia traditionally was friendly to Armenia as a christian country, but now they can't afford to stop the Azeris from attacking it, which explains the recent assaults from Azerbaijan against Armenia, including full blown regional takeover and complete ethnic cleansing.
"Before the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh War, the region had an estimated population of 150,000 which decreased in the aftermath of the war.[6] Faced with threats of ethnic cleansing by Azerbaijan and struggling amid a nine-month long blockade, 100,400 ethnic Armenians, representing 99% of the remaining population of Nagorno-Karabakh,[7][8][9] fled by the end of September 2023, leaving a couple dozen people within the region.[10][2][3]"

Russia is now in a position where it can't lose Azerbaijan, and Armenia is getting the same treatment as Ukraine: verbal support and internet slop eaters screaming their willingness to see others die for a cause while they sit in front of their 4K monitors with a Red Bull can in their hand.
It's getting increasingly painful to be part of the West...
 

fskimospy

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The demilitarization of NATO continues, and they’re officially out of Patriot systems to send to Ukraine:


Much like they’re doing with shells, NATO is now going to dig thru their couch cushions looking for more Patriots to send.

Kind of makes you wonder what has been happening to their existing Patriot systems right?

This is what happens when you decide to ‘stick it to Russia’ instead of supporting a peace agreement, like I have been calling for since this war started.
They are pretty clearly referring to missile stocks, not the systems, and the US has so many more where that came from.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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They are pretty clearly referring to missile stocks, not the systems, and the US has so many more where that came from.

Why would they need missile stock when Russia ran out of missiles two years ago?

Russia running out of precision munitions in Ukraine war- Pentagon official
https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...ons-ukraine-war-pentagon-official-2022-03-25/

Boy those flying washing machines must be excellent replacements!

BTW. Zelensky said they need at least 25 systems, so yes they need the systems not just the missies as well.

 

Mahboi

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The demilitarization of NATO continues, and they’re officially out of Patriot systems to send to Ukraine
*clap*
*clap*
*clap*

Wonderful. We're now under heavy enough attrition that we're running out of stuff left and right. Now watch how none of the policies will change because none of the politicians (including those in uniform) want to admit their mistakes.
Boy those flying washing machines must be excellent replacements!
You can't deny that they must be excellent at spinning.
I was told it's a good trick.
 

fskimospy

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Why would they need missile stock when Russia ran out of missiles two years ago?

Russia running out of precision munitions in Ukraine war- Pentagon official
https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...ons-ukraine-war-pentagon-official-2022-03-25/

Boy those flying washing machines must be excellent replacements!
Lol - do you really not understand something this simple? Russia had stockpiles of these missiles saved up before they invaded and they used them at a very high rate initially. Once their stockpiles ran low they reduced usage while trying to increase production.

Like it’s genuinely baffling this has to be explained.
 

kage69

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Boy those flying washing machines must be excellent replacements!

Ah, so that's why Russia's fabled Zircon hypersonic missile is no match for a 20year old Patriot interceptor.

All the choice washing machines got shipped back to various Russian hovels probably, while the lame ones were used for parts, yeah that must be it.
 
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Mahboi

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One thing about this empire though - it always needs an external enemy. Have you noticed that? Every few years or so, there is a new external enemy and some of these enemies are on a rotation. Maybe this is to justify spending $1 trillion on "defense" spending?
Yes, but really it's not that shocking.
When the traditional system of Legion->Conquest->New land attribution fell apart, Rome started stagnating, and would eventually turn against itself with the Third Century Crisis (and many other smaller ones before).
When the Mongol Empire stopped conquering, it started stagnating then broke apart.
Same with the Muslim Empire.
Same with the (insert_empire_here) Empire.
It just is how it is. The U.S Empire just tends to very hypocritically pretend that it's "different", when it's just how an Empire works, and also, they have a weird Exceptionalism where they think that their conquests are inherently good, but anyone else's conquest is inherently evil. Not "friend or foe", "right or wrong". It's very unsettling.
Not that spending that much money and going much further into debt is a worry of US politicians. Lindsay Graham and other similar neocons now are calling for war with Iran. Is the US congress going to publicly shame him like their did with Rashida Tlaib? No, he will be congratulated for being a good US politician and putting military industrial complex and big corporations first.
He won't, the system is utterly broken and Graham is one of the most pathetic members of the U.S Empire that I've ever seen.
I'd love to put him and Bolton into a cell and throw away the key.
 

IronWing

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Yes, but really it's not that shocking.
When the traditional system of Legion->Conquest->New land attribution fell apart, Rome started stagnating, and would eventually turn against itself with the Third Century Crisis (and many other smaller ones before).
When the Mongol Empire stopped conquering, it started stagnating then broke apart.
Same with the Muslim Empire.
Same with the (insert_empire_here) Empire.
It just is how it is. The U.S Empire just tends to very hypocritically pretend that it's "different", when it's just how an Empire works, and also, they have a weird Exceptionalism where they think that their conquests are inherently good, but anyone else's conquest is inherently evil. Not "friend or foe", "right or wrong". It's very unsettling.

He won't, the system is utterly broken and Graham is one of the most pathetic members of the U.S Empire that I've ever seen.
I'd love to put him and Bolton into a cell and throw away the key.
Bah… bara Ann
 
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cytg111

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Can you please drop the propaganda for half a second, or is that beyond your ability?
My glass is full, thanks, don't need more mind poison.

Also what a sick joke to hear that when Ukraine became one of the most corrupt countries with one of the highest tiers of forced prostitution in Europe after Maidan and the Western takeover.
Except for the fact that its true.
How do we know that?
Allow me to educate you. In a free society we have this thing called a free press. If it was lies and propaganda MSM, for all their faults, would tear into it and it would be front page news.

I pity you. Cause I know that you know that you dont know what that looks like. Freedom. What freedom looks like. Cause you're not free. You got those Putin-Shackles on. What I dont understand is why you're running your mouth here though.
 
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