Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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trenchfoot

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Been hearing the Russians have seen an uptick in 'code 500s,' or people refusing to march into the chipper.

Yeah, sounds like the desperation went up a notch or two



"Soldiers of the 26th Armoured Regiment of the 47th Division of the so-called Luhansk People's Republic have published a recording claiming that the command sends them "straight from hospitals to combat missions, even though many of them can only move with crutches."

From the hospital straight to the front line. Sheeyit. Just imagine two guys on crutches, trying to share a motorcycle to the 'zero line' while dodging craters, drones and artillery the whole way. I think I feel bad about laughing at this one. Sorry Yuri, you guys aren't being sent in to attack, you're being disposed of.

Getting rid of the liabilities (walking wounded) to save the resources they suck up and waste while making the enemy waste their own resources on these walking waste of resources is a Russian bean counter's two-fer triage scenario dream come true.

From what I've seen and heard of how the Russians treat their mobiks it seems feasible from their point of view.
 
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kage69

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I like how the AFU started targeting the Russian blocking units, nice. Scared, starving mobiki are much more likely to run for the hills or surrender if there isn't a Chechen waiting to kill them, go figure.

Curious to see how long the NKs will last, if they will be sticking to the same cannon fodder tactics. The NKs will arrive with the personal gear they need at least, none of this going in with a 50year old rifle and no armor, no helmet.
 

RnR_au

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Curious to see how long the NKs will last, if they will be sticking to the same cannon fodder tactics. The NKs will arrive with the personal gear they need at least, none of this going in with a 50year old rifle and no armor, no helmet.
I suspect that if any NK forces are observed in Ukraine it will be a token effort. But the propaganda will be used to up the pressure on Ukraine's Western allies to make peace with Russia.

"How many more people needs to die?!?! "
"Now North Korea is involved! Are we sleep walking into a world war?!?!? Please give peace a chance!!"
etc etc etc

But yeah Russia is farked. Ukraine has begun taking back territory here and there that Russia took with enormous losses. And Ukraine isn't even trying very hard atm. Just opportunities observed in the field. The Russians at the front lines can't even be supplied with water. How will they survive the next winter?

This will be done and dusted next year.
 

Leeea

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I like how the AFU started targeting the Russian blocking units, nice. Scared, starving mobiki are much more likely to run for the hills or surrender if there isn't a Chechen waiting to kill them, go figure.

Curious to see how long the NKs will last, if they will be sticking to the same cannon fodder tactics. The NKs will arrive with the personal gear they need at least, none of this going in with a 50year old rifle and no armor, no helmet.
The North Korean troops will be a real shock. I am expecting fanaticism and willingness to take extreme causalities to take objectives.
 

RnR_au

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The North Korean troops will be a real shock. I am expecting fanaticism and willingness to take extreme causalities to take objectives.
They are untested and unproven going up against battle hardened Ukrainian veterans.

If they turn up.
 

Leeea

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They are untested and unproven going up against battle hardened Ukrainian veterans.

If they turn up.
absolutely.

They will take horrific causalities. However, even a person with a sucking chest wound takes a while to die.

Its a cult. Cultists are not known for their sanity.
 
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trenchfoot

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The North Korean troops will be a real shock. I am expecting fanaticism and willingness to take extreme causalities to take objectives.


This may not be a fair comparison to say the least, however back in 'Nam, the South Korean troops from their Tiger Division had a reputation larger than life. A lot of them experienced war in their own country back in the 50's first hand and it showed in how brutally efficient they were toward the bad guys. They were admired, respected and feared, especially by the Viet Kong. Our unit built some infrastructure for one of their camps and although I wasn't at that particular job site, word got back how brutal their officers treated their own troops let alone any bad guys they took prisoner.

For sure, different times and circumstances, yet I did have a chance to get some TDY done at Camp Humphrys back in the 90's and the same brutality that they were known for back in the 60's was still there in what I've been able to see in the 90's. Can't say how the NK troops get treated, although I can imagine how much harder they must be disciplined given the sparse conditions they live in.
 
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trenchfoot

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2nd army in the world with some uh interesting new artillery lol.


What I'm wondering about that improved gun is if the RU forces are in a position of vast superiority irt men and materiel, why would they even need to MacGyver guns like that to begin with? Meaning, are the Russians in such a dismal state of readiness that they are compelled to resort to such measures?
 

K1052

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What I'm wondering about that improved gun is if the RU forces are in a position of vast superiority irt men and materiel, why would they even need to MacGyver guns like that to begin with? Meaning, are the Russians in such a dismal state of readiness that they are compelled to resort to such measures?

Their rate of loss greatly exceeds their ability to build new or refurbish old equipment for service causing shortages that troops in the field look for ways to solve for themselves.
 

IronWing

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Russians innovating is bad no matter what it says about their capacity to build armaments. Ukraine has succeeded on the graves of very stupid opponents. The last thing we want if for the average Russian soldier to smarten up.
 

Muse

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What I'm wondering about that improved gun is if the RU forces are in a position of vast superiority irt men and materiel, why would they even need to MacGyver guns like that to begin with? Meaning, are the Russians in such a dismal state of readiness that they are compelled to resort to such measures?
Yes. Devour this post...

 
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[DHT]Osiris

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What I'm wondering about that improved gun is if the RU forces are in a position of vast superiority irt men and materiel, why would they even need to MacGyver guns like that to begin with? Meaning, are the Russians in such a dismal state of readiness that they are compelled to resort to such measures?
Think of it like Curtis Cullin's hedgerow cutter, but you know, for artillery.
 
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kage69

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Is the air safe enough for them? We don't want them dropping out of the skies like SU-whatevers.


"Contested airspace" usually means it's not safe for anyone.

I'd much rather be in a F-16 than any vintage Soviet fighter if people were shooting at me.

Google Maj. Emmitt Tullia and what he did back in '91. And that was without chaff and flares.
 
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trenchfoot

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Maybe she was going home to fight? But for which side?



Rep. Spartz charged with weapons violation at DC airport

WISH-TV|8 hours ago
(WISH) — U.S. Rep. Victoria Spartz has been charged with a weapons violation at Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C. A spokesperson for Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority confirmed to I-Team 8 that Spartz was charged Friday.

That firearm is filthy and corroded. I wouldn't touch that piece let alone take a chance at firing it. Ehhh, maybe I'm too picky but for a personal firearm to be in such neglected shape, geeebus some people's children I tell ya's. It may as well have been a hot piece bought straight off a street corner.
 

Perknose

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That firearm is filthy and corroded. I wouldn't touch that piece let alone take a chance at firing it. Ehhh, maybe I'm too picky but for a personal firearm to be in such neglected shape, geeebus some people's children I tell ya's. It may as well have been a hot piece bought straight off a street corner.
Some people don't know squat about caring for the weapons they've bought, out of fear and ignorance. They are a danger to themselves, their families, and everyone else.
 
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