If Ukraine was never going to join NATO, then what's Russia's next excuse for their unprovoked attack?
Anyone remember idiotic posts like these?
A new ‘update’ on Ukraine’s bid to join NATO:
Ukraine to be told it is too corrupt to join Nato
Ukraine will be told it is currently too corrupt to join Nato, in a major blow to Volodymyr Zelensky.www.yahoo.com
Ukraine to be told it is too corrupt to join Nato
Also an interesting tidbit near the bottom of the article:
Any thoughts on this? This whole ‘Ukraine will join NATO someday’ was nothing more than a lie to keep Ukrainians fighting. Anyone who actually thought NATO would risk going to war with Russia over Ukraine is a moron.
Have you got numbers for passenger km's flown over the same period? I suspect this would be vastly downI think the Russians have done an impressive job propping up their airlines industry, given the weight of sanctions and how they don't make shit themselves. I was expecting it to get ugly. China must really be stepping it up with the parts reproductions. The number of Russians killed in plane crashes actually hit a low in 2023. Prigozhin's plane not factored in btw, which makes sense.
I think the Russians have done an impressive job propping up their airlines industry, given the weight of sanctions and how they don't make shit themselves. I was expecting it to get ugly. China must really be stepping it up with the parts reproductions. The number of Russians killed in plane crashes actually hit a low in 2023. Prigozhin's plane not factored in btw, which makes sense.
Have you got numbers for passenger km's flown over the same period? I suspect this would be vastly down
20 in 2023? How many was on the Prigozhin plane?I think the Russians have done an impressive job propping up their airlines industry, given the weight of sanctions and how they don't make shit themselves. I was expecting it to get ugly. China must really be stepping it up with the parts reproductions. The number of Russians killed in plane crashes actually hit a low in 2023. Prigozhin's plane not factored in btw, which makes sense.
One of the problems with such propaganda is that it very much normalizes such insane actions (very similarly to how Trump's propaganda works), and while Putin may still be rational about not actually following through with it, it greatly increases the chance of any successor following through with such insane actionsJust over one third of Russians WANT to START a nuclear war.
"It's a good idea".
Given it is Russia, I suppose those numbers are lower than I expected. Given how often their propaganda talks it up and tries to sell it.
Just over one third of Russians WANT to START a nuclear war.
"It's a good idea".
Given it is Russia, I suppose those numbers are lower than I expected. Given how often their propaganda talks it up and tries to sell it.
More Than a Third of Russians Approve of a Nuclear Strike on Ukraine
So basically they are telling their neighbors (without nuclear weapons); if we decide we want your land you will either give it to us or we will nuke you. And this is why lawless countries like Russia shoudln't have nuclear weapons.Just over one third of Russians WANT to START a nuclear war.
"It's a good idea".
Given it is Russia, I suppose those numbers are lower than I expected. Given how often their propaganda talks it up and tries to sell it.
More Than a Third of Russians Approve of a Nuclear Strike on Ukraine
That message was LOUD and CLEAR the day Ukraine faced a full scale Russian invasion.So basically they are telling their neighbors (without nuclear weapons); if we decide we want your land you will either give it to us or we will nuke you. And this is why lawless countries like Russia shoudln't have nuclear weapons.
While eventually what you said is likely accurate it is not what Putin actually said. However, the only real way to end this war (in Ukraine favor) is to make Putin pay a severe cost; unfortunately Russians don't seem to mind dying by the 100's of thousand so something else needs to be done that punishes Putin.To reiterate. Putin will only accept the complete erasure of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.
Genocide is Russia's only goal.
And he said this to his lackey Orbán.
Putin Calls for Total Destruction of Ukrainian Statehood, Rejects Ceasefire in Meeting with Orbán
It is not something else that needs to be done per say.While eventually what you said is likely accurate it is not what Putin actually said. However, the only real way to end this war (in Ukraine favor) is to make Putin pay a severe cost; unfortunately Russians don't seem to mind dying by the 100's of thousand so something else needs to be done that punishes Putin.
My point is that Putin could careless if 5 million Russian's die; they are just cannon fodder to him; so it would be more effective if something could be done that actually hurts putin.It is not something else that needs to be done per say.
We just need to scale up our efforts. So the Russian invaders lose 5, 10, 20 thousand per day.
But that is about the only pressure point we have left, to make the situation domestically so absurd that they revolt to overthrow him.My point is that Putin could careless if 5 million Russian's die; they are just cannon fodder to him; so it would be more effective if something could be done that actually hurts putin.
@Young Grasshopper as a lover of peace I’m sure this has made you recant your support for Russia.To reiterate. Putin will only accept the complete erasure of Ukraine and the Ukrainian people.
Genocide is Russia's only goal.
And he said this to his lackey Orbán.
Putin Calls for Total Destruction of Ukrainian Statehood, Rejects Ceasefire in Meeting with Orbán