Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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you2

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Zelenskyy said recently it was 1:6. I suspect the glide bombs are mildly effective.

Can't remember if this has been mentioned here, but I read that the Ukrainian front line defenders have changed tactics. When the glide bombs appear, they pull back from their trenches. Arty and drones makes short work of any Russian advance that follows the glide bomb 'softning'. Any Russians that manages to get into the Ukrainian trench then have to be push out by the Ukrainian defenders.

If there are no more glide bombs because the F16's are making the skies a wee bit too dangerous for the Russian pilots, Ukrainian defenders can remain in the trenches and use their defensive role to the max. Then I see the ratio move to 1:8 or even 1:10.

Russian drones will remain a problem. Anti-drone support on the front lines is the next bit that have to be tackled.
Someone - i think sk was building lasers to shoot down drones; seem like that might be useful tool for the Ukrainians.
 

RnR_au

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Someone - i think sk was building lasers to shoot down drones; seem like that might be useful tool for the Ukrainians.
An Australian company has this. It was tested towards the end of last year and it wasn't adopted.

Their other anti-drone platform was adopted though. https://eos-aus.com/defence/counter-drone-systems/slinger/

I believe the USA ordered 160+ units for Ukraine. But I suspect they are being used as a last line of defense for Ukrainian military production buildings.

Edit: oh they haven't arrived yet... but will shortly. Maybe they will go to the front lines...

 
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Jaskalas

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If there are no more glide bombs because the F16's are making the skies a wee bit too dangerous for the Russian pilots, Ukrainian defenders can remain in the trenches and use their defensive role to the max. Then I see the ratio move to 1:8 or even 1:10.

Russian drones will remain a problem. Anti-drone support on the front lines is the next bit that have to be tackled.
I'll believe we have a solution for glide bombs when I see it.
 
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Grabo

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I'll believe we have a solution for glide bombs when I see it.
Yes, I think familiarity with Western tech for easier integration with NATO in the future ..if there is such a future..is a boon with the F16, and for sure they are going to have an effect in the ongoing conflict.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davida...s-sukhoi-glide-bombers-even-if-its-dangerous/ it does not seem as if they are thought of as a solution to the glide bomb problem, but they may help to a degree.
 

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Which is the single most stupid american policy in this war. I'm not for Trump, but the other side is just as senile...
 

misuspita

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Yes, Trump is senile. He has the vocabulary on a child. He forgets what he says, goes mumbling incomprehensible stuff, etc. Look up Trump in the decades before, hell, look for his discourse in the 2016 campain. Different in every way. Biden is not a whole lot better in this regard, plus he has that "old as shyte" look. Yes, he is way more coherent when he doesn't do mistakes, but when he does, it bombs. Trump is still the worse that could happen to the USA. I'm from Europe, will only feel the effects indirectly, but this appeasing policy of the Biden admin is purely dumb and criminal. Maybe not him directly, maybe the advisors, but the buck stops at him, he's responsible. Imposing self red lines is absolutely dumb. Yes, no civilian casualties among the russians, but military? Every fucking one in a 1000km radius. And imposing limits on even things you didnt provide is also chickenshit behaviour.

Yeah, trump can go fuck himself, but Biden is also damn stupid in this regard

Edit: I get that Biden is the lesser evil, but it's not normal to look for excuses in behaviour for the most powerful man on the planet. Dems have so many good speakers, who do not have to be feared of throwing some dumb bombs in their every speech. Put Newsom, Jeffries, there are at least 5 people that are excellent leaders. Biden and Trump are too old. There should be a 70y limit onto presidential candidacy
 
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Nato vows 'irreversible path' to Ukraine membership​


Nato members agreed to set up a new unit to coordinate military aid and training for the Ukrainian army as part of measures designed to deepen ties between the alliance and Ukraine.

The joint statement said these measures, combined with aid commitments from individual members, "constitute a bridge to Ukraine's membership in Nato".

It said Ukraine had made "concrete progress" on "required democratic, economic, and security reforms" in recent months - but that a formal membership invitation would only be extended when "conditions are met".

"As Ukraine continues this vital work, we will continue to support it on its irreversible path to full Euro-Atlantic integration, including Nato membership," the statement added.
This is a positive development. I'm glad to see NATO is committed to helping Ukraine defend themselves from the illegal russian invasion.
 

kage69

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This is a positive development. I'm glad to see NATO is committed to helping Ukraine defend themselves from the illegal russian invasion.

Poor Cyka, there goes NATO proving him wrong yet again.

More NATO training and with 10 new brigades coming online? Sounds good to me. Sounds shitty for Yuri.

If China wants to stop provoking confrontation all it has to do is lead by example and quit the nitro celloluse shipments. Keep sending the golf carts though, those things are hilarious.
 
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kage69

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"There are stupid fucking people at the top of the GOP, film at 11"

Leave it to Team Treason to try and make short shortsightedness a campaign promise. Disgusting how these assholes want to throw away the peace in Europe our grandfathers kicked ass and bled for.

Talk about shameless, Vance went from 'Trump's basically a Hitler' to sucking the man's ass for a VP nod. That's some Lady G shit right there. This toy of the insurrectionist and traitor will get his ass handed to him by Harris too, watch.
 
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