Unless it breaks the Russians, that price is not high enough.What did those few square miles cost Russia? What did it cost Ukraine?
When frontline positions are lost, Ukrainian territory goes with it.
As was the case for Avdiivka, the movement of the frontline can be rapid and difficult to contain after losing a hardened position.
Then, instead of a well established position being carpet bombed, now it'll be the next town, the next city. More people's homes and lives forever shattered and lost.
It isn't that Vuhledar and Vodiane were large. They were the shields that guarded Ukrainians from a worse fate. Do not mock that.
What we really need is a country like China to stab Russia in the back; after all they don't really have much of an army left; China could easily take quite a bit in a few days ....As we have seen previously with Russia in Ukraine. If Russia concentrates their offensive force on a single front they are able to make slow progress.
Just using sheer weight of numbers and artillery they are able to force the Ukrainian's back.
When you talk about rapid with the Russians, it is basically at the pace of a Infantryman walking. Russia has lost their ability(If they ever had it) to do combined arms operations.
Umm...that's just trading one problem for a much bigger one. The last thing anyone wants is China getting stronger and bolder. And they get angry much quicker due to their smaller ...What we really need is a country like China to stab Russia in the back; after all they don't really have much of an army left; China could easily take quite a bit in a few days ....
Putin on the phone with his allies: "We are under attack! Send in your bestA woman is killed near Moscow after more than 140 Ukrainian drones target Russia, officials say
The attack also prompted the authorities to temporarily shut down three airports just outside Moscow — Vnukovo, Domodedovo and Zhukovsky.apnews.com
Russia has already moved the majority of their aircraft from the bases within range.OpSec Mikey, OpSec.
There's a reason nobody knew about Kursk.
That’s likely a major part of it. Changes the optics and justifications.I wonder if approving use of our long range weapons on russian targets came about because of the ballistic missiles being sent to russia from Iran?
It's also normalized when more NATO allies call for it, it's not just US weapons landing on Russian soil.That’s likely a major part of it. Changes the optics and justifications.
Very much intentional and desired. As long as Russia is fighting in Russia, they aren't fighting in Ukraine. Russian villages are getting flattened, not Ukrainian ones. Russian civilians are getting popped by errant North Korean arty shells, not Ukrainian.doesn't sound great:
Russia launches major Kursk counteroffensive: Reports
Ukraine has had a grip on settlements in Kursk for weeks after launching a surprise push into Russian territory on August 6.www.newsweek.com
It's an interesting take but I'm not convinced yet... Depending on how many UKR troops die there, it might have some ground to itVery much intentional and desired. As long as Russia is fighting in Russia, they aren't fighting in Ukraine. Russian villages are getting flattened, not Ukrainian ones. Russian civilians are getting popped by errant North Korean arty shells, not Ukrainian.
Pretty sure the stated intention was to force Russia to withdraw troops from other areas to do exactly this.It's an interesting take but I'm not convinced yet... Depending on how many UKR troops die there, it might have some ground to it
If they get drawn back, expect another incursion, probably further south. Let those pushed back to into rotation so they can recover, get fresh troops to take new territory and force that defensive force on the Russian side travel a thousand miles and fight some more.It's an interesting take but I'm not convinced yet... Depending on how many UKR troops die there, it might have some ground to it
The news I saw a week or so back, of second line troops being moved in to reinforce the Kursk liberation from Russia ~ I believe was more likely a rotation rather than reinforcement, bringing top line units back from the front to reset and be available for use elsewhere, but that's largely speculation on my part based on very limited facts.If they get drawn back, expect another incursion, probably further south. Let those pushed back to into rotation so they can recover, get fresh troops to take new territory and force that defensive force on the Russian side travel a thousand miles and fight some more.
One objective. I think the rough list (in addition to the one you stated) was;Pretty sure the stated intention was to force Russia to withdraw troops from other areas to do exactly this.