Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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senseamp

Lifer
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Why are you putting the invasion of 2014 in quotes? Russia invaded Ukraine and no honest person would dispute that. Then again given your history of pushing Russian propaganda I guess it's not surprising you would do it there as well.

As far as the rest of your post that's a lie and has nothing to do with my position or really the position of almost anyone in this thread.
Because this is not the "invasion" we are being hysterically told is "imminent" now, Russians taking Kiev and all this other nonsense. This is what even Zelensky has been saying, nothing new, same old from 2014.
 

fskimospy

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Because this is not the "invasion" we are being hysterically told is "imminent" now, Russians taking Kiev and all this other nonsense. This is what even Zelensky has been saying, nothing new, same old from 2014.
So you acknowledge Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, correct? No "invasion", just a straight out armed invasion.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Prediction: Putin will invade within 48 hours of the Olympic closing ceremony. It will have the added benefit of burying the "Yet Another Russian Doping Scandal"
 
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Lifer
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Did someone mention oil?
Whenever oil comes into play, we see the oil prices leap out of control and that simply is of greed. Any excuse, any excuse at all to raise the cost of a barrel of oil.
Biden threatens Putin, so Putin retaliates by instigating price increase for a barrel of oil. Maybe not directly from Putin, but the very mention of oil hitting $100 a barrel certainly helps Putin vs the United States. If Russia invades, and Biden punishes Russia by limiting oil, then Americans will pay the price at the pump. And I don't know if Americans are prepared to see prices at the pump quadruple overnight? Not to mention heating cost, electricity costs, the cost of transporting goods, all of this linked to oil.

Imagine oil prices so outrageous that Americans can not afford to fill up, thus can not get to work, thus the economy takes another major hit. And thats just over here in America. What about the rest of the world?

So I see only one solution. All out world war three.
For the stability of humanity, one side must win and one side must lose. Either their way of life must come to an end, or our way of life must come to an end, and to the winner goes the spoils.
Its odd, but what Putin is doing with Ukraine could bring down our economy, resulting with inflation as never seen before over here as well as worldwide. And if it comes to that, one side must be eliminated.
 

fskimospy

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Did someone mention oil?
Whenever oil comes into play, we see the oil prices leap out of control and that simply is of greed. Any excuse, any excuse at all to raise the cost of a barrel of oil.
Biden threatens Putin, so Putin retaliates by instigating price increase for a barrel of oil. Maybe not directly from Putin, but the very mention of oil hitting $100 a barrel certainly helps Putin vs the United States. If Russia invades, and Biden punishes Russia by limiting oil, then Americans will pay the price at the pump. And I don't know if Americans are prepared to see prices at the pump quadruple overnight? Not to mention heating cost, electricity costs, the cost of transporting goods, all of this linked to oil.

Imagine oil prices so outrageous that Americans can not afford to fill up, thus can not get to work, thus the economy takes another major hit. And thats just over here in America. What about the rest of the world?

So I see only one solution. All out world war three.
For the stability of humanity, one side must win and one side must lose. Either their way of life must come to an end, or our way of life must come to an end, and to the winner goes the spoils.
Its odd, but what Putin is doing with Ukraine could bring down our economy, resulting with inflation as never seen before over here as well as worldwide. And if it comes to that, one side must be eliminated.
The US is a net exporter of oil.
 
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fskimospy

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Still, if war breaks out, prices oil & NG prices will shoot up, the stock market will tank, etc.
Buy stock in who ever makes MPATS and MPADS.
I don’t mean to say that there will be no negative effects, but the idea that Russia can hold us hostage with oil is not accurate. If prices shoot up long term it is due to supply disruption from Russia, which would tank their economy.
 

Muse

Lifer
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Putin is sure taking his time starting the "imminent" invasion. But you guys keep the faith. It'll happen any time now...you just wait.
I saw it said, and figure it's true, that Putin will hold off until the Chinese staged Olympics are over. Xi wouldn't approve of being upstaged.
 

K1052

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Just in case this comes up but the government is telling Americans to leave Ukraine and that there will be no rescues if anybody who stays gets caught in a Russian invasion.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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^^
NBC NEWS said:
“It’s not like we’re dealing with a terrorist organization. We’re dealing with one of the largest armies in the world. It’s a very different situation, and things could go crazy quickly,” he said.

Holt asked Biden what scenario could prompt him to send troops to rescue Americans fleeing the country. Biden replied: “There’s not. That's a world war when Americans and Russia start shooting at one another.”

While I hate the thuggish behaviour of Russia wrt Ukraine, at least we have a sane president.
 

Ajay

Lifer
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Macron wouldn't let the Russians test him. Enhanced social distancing protocols ensued.
LOL! Seriously? That's pretty funny - and petty. Anyway, Putin mocked Macron after the meeting (saying it was a bore). At this point, Russian diplomats are insulting various western diplomats as soon as they leave the meetings on negotiations. If the situation wasn't so serious, it would be laughable.

Also, Russia has ~140 warships in the Black Sea on 'exercises'. It could become a blockade at any time.
 

iRONic

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LOL! Seriously? That's pretty funny - and petty. Anyway, Putin mocked Macron after the meeting (saying it was a bore). At this point, Russian diplomats are insulting various western diplomats as soon as they leave the meetings on negotiations. If the situation wasn't so serious, it would be laughable.
Macron uncomfortable giving Vlad his DNA.
 
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