Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

Lifer
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Full list of countries who have asked their citizens to leave Ukraine immediately.
  • Albania
  • Australia
  • Belgium
  • Bulgaria
  • Canada
  • Czech Republic
  • Denmark
  • Estonia
  • Finland
  • Germany
  • Iraq
  • Ireland
  • Israel
  • Italy
  • Japan
  • Jordan
  • Kuwait
  • Latvia
  • Lithuania
  • Luxembourg
  • Montenegro
  • Morocco
  • The Netherlands
  • New Zealand
  • Norway
  • Portugal
  • Romania
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Spain
  • South Korea
  • Sweden
  • Taiwan
  • The United Arab Emirates
  • The United Kingdom
  • The United States
Also, Russia evacuated its own embassy in Ukraine.

As for the cassus belli:


Yeah just look at all that hysteria.

I was particularly amused with Russia accusing the west of misinformation. Haha wow.

I guess next up is Trump deriding his critics as corrupt, sexist morons who only care about money and destroying democracy.
 

senseamp

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Yeah just look at all that hysteria.

I was particularly amused with Russia accusing the west of misinformation. Haha wow.

I guess next up is Trump deriding his critics as corrupt, sexist morons who only care about money and destroying democracy.
Biden's hysteria is hurting the Ukrainian economy far more than Putin could ever dream of. That's what Zelensky keeps harping about. Now KLM has canceled flights to the Ukraine.
Evacuating Kiev for Iraq is a real smooth brain move.
 

brycejones

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Biden's hysteria is hurting the Ukrainian economy far more than Putin could ever dream of. That's what Zelensky keeps harping about. Now KLM has canceled flights to the Ukraine.
Evacuating Kiev for Iraq is a real smooth brain move.
Most of your posts are losing your shit over the topic of people saying Russia is going to invade. Setting aside invasion talk for a minute let's talk about Russia's demands.

Serious question for you:

Does Russia have the right to tell Ukraine it can't join NATO?
 

fskimospy

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Biden's hysteria is hurting the Ukrainian economy far more than Putin could ever dream of. That's what Zelensky keeps harping about. Now KLM has canceled flights to the Ukraine.
Evacuating Kiev for Iraq is a real smooth brain move.
If Russia does end up invading its going to be interesting to see what you post. My guess is you will say the west made them do it.
 

senseamp

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If Russia does end up invading its going to be interesting to see what you post. My guess is you will say the west made them do it.
I would post that I was mistaken and Putin is dumber than I thought. What are you going to post when nothing happens on Wednesday? That Biden's hysteria deterred it?
 

fskimospy

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I would post that I was mistaken. What are you going to post when nothing happens on Wednesday? That Biden's hysteria deterred it?
Nothing? Despite you repeatedly lying about this I’ve never stated with any certainty that there will be an invasion, just that there is a credible risk of one, which there is.
 

senseamp

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Most of your posts are losing your shit over the topic of people saying Russia is going to invade. Setting aside invasion talk for a minute let's talk about Russia's demands.

Serious question for you:

Does Russia have the right to tell Ukraine it can't join NATO?
In geopolitics, might makes right, which the Ukraine knows full well because it took part in the occupation of Iraq. What right did it have to be there? The "but mah rights" shtick is cute.
 
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kage69

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Nothing? Despite you repeatedly lying about this I’ve never stated with any certainty that there will be an invasion, just that there is a credible risk of one, which there is.

I'm afraid you'll only confuse our fascist cheerleader with facts. He's still acting like Iraq 2.0 excuses everything, to people who called out the invasion as baseless and illegal no less.
 
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Jaskalas

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People confuse the truth for endorsement of said truth.
Ever do they attack the messenger.
 

senseamp

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I'm afraid you'll only confuse our fascist cheerleader with facts. He's still acting like Iraq 2.0 excuses everything, to people who called out the invasion as baseless and illegal no less.
And some Russians call out occupation of Crimea as baseless and illegal too. What matters are actions of countries, not meaningless worlds of some individuals in those countries.
 

kage69

Lifer
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What a disappointing response.

Over 30 pages in and it's the only kind I've seen him post, made extra strange in that I cannot recall him ever toeing a line like this in the past. I had no idea democracy and self-determination for a people who so clearly want them would be a problem. Would still be interesting to know the dog he has in the race. I think it would shed light on this strange love of autocrats playing victims to threaten war, insisting that the non-threat to the West surrounded on three sides demands an invasion. Boilerplate Putin whataboutisms have thus far failed to do so right?

I think the repeated need to make Joe Biden the problem here is telling, even though it's Zelensky the Ukrainian people themselves seem to be disappointed in. Biden is still getting shit about the Afghanistan pullout after 19 orders for Americans to leave prior to the ANA fiasco, and he's supposed to keep quiet when Putin is hurling threats and a force that size is poised to attack? Haha, good one. Someone hasn't given much thought about stranded Americans and how sending in our guys or 3rd party assets like usual can't apply in this case. Thankfully we have a CiC who isn't a drug addled moron beholden to the thug who runs the Kremlin. Keeping quiet is what Trump would do, and thankfully that traitor is no longer CiC.

PSA: corporations watch world events and draw their own conclusions. Companies hire 3rd party security and consulting firms world wide, pay good money not to be left flatfooted when it comes to business affecting events. The big players, like Exxon Mobil, have their own intelligence departments FFS. Corporations are keenly aware that shareholder interests are not measured in 4 year terms, probably time for everyone to do that, look farther. Putin definitely is, 10-15 years from now the standard of living for the poor cousins could get too high. Real elections, judges that don't do what you say? Cyka please! People can get used to that stuff.
 
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dphantom

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I wish I had the link, but I believe the Federal Assembly is meeting tomorrow to extend protection over the DNR/LNR region and permit Russian citizenship. I may have some details incorrect so if someone has a link - appreciate to post.

If so, that will be the final step prior to an all but inevitable invasion

At this point, my belief based on size of the buildup and locations of major units is Russia intends to replace the current government of Ukraine with one more amicable towards Russia.
At least 2 tank divisions are deploying forward, and heavy artillery not tasked with the current exercise is now in forward positions.

Insurance carriers are halting air carrier insurance for overflying Ukraine as of Feb 14.

USAF had a Rivet Joint over Ukraine for a good part of the day but not sure how much longer if at all manned reconnaissance will continue. Global Hawk or other unmanned vehicles I watched over the last few weeks.
 

kage69

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And some Russians call out occupation of Crimea as baseless and illegal too. What matters are actions of countries, not meaningless worlds of some individuals in those countries.

I think what matters is the truth, also honest engagement. Your various positions seem pretty distant from both of those, yet near identical in some cases to the official Kremlin talking points.

So yeah, disappointing.
 

senseamp

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I think what matters is the truth, also honest engagement. Your various positions seem pretty distant from both of those, yet near identical in some cases to the official Kremlin talking points.
So yeah, disappointing.
You are not interested in truth or an honest engagement, or you wouldn't be launching never ending lame and totally predictable ad hominems instead.
Over 30 pages in and it's the only kind I've seen him post, made extra strange in that I cannot recall him ever toeing a line like this in the past. I had no idea democracy and self-determination for a people who so clearly want them would be a problem. Would still be interesting to know the dog he has in the race. I think it would shed light on this strange love of autocrats playing victims to threaten war, insisting that the non-threat to the West surrounded on three sides demands an invasion. Boilerplate Putin whataboutisms have thus far failed to do so right?

I think the repeated need to make Joe Biden the problem here is telling, even though it's Zelensky the Ukrainian people themselves seem to be disappointed in. Biden is still getting shit about the Afghanistan pullout after 19 orders for Americans to leave prior to the ANA fiasco, and he's supposed to keep quiet when Putin is hurling threats and a force that size is poised to attack? Haha, good one. Someone hasn't given much thought about stranded Americans and how sending in our guys or 3rd party assets like usual can't apply in this case. Thankfully we have a CiC who isn't a drug addled moron beholden to the thug who runs the Kremlin. Keeping quiet is what Trump would do, and thankfully that traitor is no longer CiC.

PSA: corporations watch world events and draw their own conclusions. Companies hire 3rd party security and consulting firms world wide, pay good money not to be left flatfooted when it comes to business affecting events. The big players, like Exxon Mobil, have their own intelligence departments FFS. Corporations are keenly aware that shareholder interests are not measured in 4 year terms, probably time for everyone to do that, look farther. Putin definitely is, 10-15 years from now the standard of living for the poor cousins could get too high. Real elections, judges that don't do what you say? Cyka please! People can get used to that stuff.
Where did I say it demands an invasion.
I specifically said there won't be an invasion, stop lying.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I would post that I was mistaken and Putin is dumber than I thought. What are you going to post when nothing happens on Wednesday? That Biden's hysteria deterred it?
Is it Putin that is dumber than you thought, or are you dumber than you realize? I ask that because you are the one who is saying the media is causing the hysteria, and ignoring basic facts (actually you are trying to manipulate facts). Well I guess Our media must have some far reaching powers because we have what 35 countries who are pulling their people out of the country for something you are trying to blame the media on. Oh wait, you are also trying to blame Biden along with ignoring and manipulating basic facts. So again, is it Putin that is dumber than you thought, or are you dumber than you realize?
 
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senseamp

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Is it Putin that is dumber than you thought, or are you dumber than you realize? I ask that because you are the one who is saying the media is causing the hysteria, and ignoring basic facts (actually you are trying to manipulate facts). Well I guess Our media must have some far reaching powers because we have what 35 countries who are pulling their people out of the country for something you are trying to blame the media on. Oh wait, you are also trying to blame Biden along with ignoring and manipulating basic facts. So again, is it Putin that is dumber than you thought, or are you dumber than you realize?
It's an echo chamber. Do you think Iraq has its own independent intelligence on the Ukraine driving decision to pull citizens out? They are just following the US.
 

NWRMidnight

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It's an echo chamber. Do you think Iraq has its own independent intelligence on the Ukraine driving decision to pull citizens out? They are just following the US.
So you are dumber than you realize.. GOT IT!

I find it Interesting that you translate 35 countries being IRAQ! To top that off, you think they are all just following the US lead, and that it's impossible for them to have their own intelligence on Ukraine. All you are doing is showing your own ignorance.

Question: Is it difficult to type with your head shoved so far up your ass?
 
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senseamp

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So you are dumber than you realize.. GOT IT!

I find it Interesting that you translate 35 countries being IRAQ! To top that off, you think they are all just following the US lead, and that it's impossible for them to have their own intelligence on Ukraine. All you are doing is showing your own ignorance.

Question: Is it difficult to type with your head shoved so far up your ass?
Yes, all 35 countries all had their own agent in Putin's inner circle. You are so smart!
 
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