Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Leeea]

Great article on WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/26/ukraine-kramatorsk-cluster-bomb/

personnel commentary:
The Ukrainian unit was struck after it had been relieved, then some other fresh unit has relieved it.

Ukrainian medivac is functioning rather well, a half hour wait time in a war zone is not bad at all. Many civilian areas in the US are not that quick.

Ukrainian artillery has enough ammo to fire and is receiving targeting information. The artillery unit was also perceived to be in a safe area, as that is where the escaping convoy stopped.


In short, despite the successful Russian strike, the Ukrainian army appeared to be able to meet all of the demands of the war in that area. This would seem to indicate Russia's push is no were near triggering a collapse.

 

[Leeea]

mmm thats the good stuff

Spoiler: rumored NASAMS purchase link

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541179512561582085

oh, nice!

Ground fired AIM-120 SAMs that incorporate themselves into NATO's link 16 network, and are able acquire targets from both ground and air assets.

 

[K1052]

oh, nice!

Ground fired AIM-120 SAMs that incorporate themselves into NATO's link 16 network, and are able acquire targets from both ground and air assets.

Generation of system is unspecified so far. If NASAMS 3 that opens up more missile options too. It is an important move starting to switch Ukraine air defenses over to NATO missile stocks as accessible ex Soviet stocks are likely depleted. Patriot way to cumbersome and expensive so this was the best option.

 

[Leeea]

Generation of system is unspecified so far. If NASAMS 3 that opens up more missile options too. It is an important move starting to switch Ukraine air defenses over to NATO missile stocks as accessible ex Soviet stocks are likely depleted. Patriot way to cumbersome and expensive so this was the best option.

I was hoping they would pull Hawk out of stockpiles.

But this is way better!

 

[Muse]

Also, we don't really know how the Russian population see the war, but if they start targeting Russian civilians, then Putin might get even more support and conscripts for the war.

Better to maintain sanctions and impose stricter ones ultimately inducing blame on the Kremlin for destroying economic gains since the early 1990s.

 

[Muse]

Hot take is whatever the US will do if Russia has bases in Mexico and Canada. what do you think we will do, if that happens

This just in:

Canada says no to Russian proposal to trade Ukrainian wheat for Russian missile launch sites in Nova Scotia.

Mexico refuses Russian entreaties to establish Tijuana military base, saying Russian vodka inferior to Dos Equis.

 

[Muse]

Looks like Russia is firing missiles out of Belarus and Putin is going to give nukes to Belarus.

edit: I presume this is a conditional requirement asked of Belarus to engage Ukraine. Belarus can feel a lot better about it when they know the risk of getting their own territory messed with is dramatically reduced.

Giving Belarus nuclear device payload capable missiles is not the same as giving them nukes.

 

[Jaskalas]

Brave Russian strategic bombers lobbing long range missiles from the safety of Belarus.
So they can slaughter civilians at apartment homes and kindergartens.

Russian missiles hit Kyiv as G7 summit begins in Europe

 

[K1052]

Whoops

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541218728108605440

 

[Paratus]

Did you forget cuba or your brain just kinda froze? so wait the US can convince the world that Nuke war is gonna ensue when Russians put weapons in Cuba, but sure Russians cannot do the same when NATO has been training multiple BTGs each year since 2015. I mean how is it that we can have one rule but rest of the world cannot have the same rule.
Is this the much vaunted 'rules based' order?

Does the FSB know you are posting here? I thought you guys weren’t allowed out of your own intranet these days. Don’t get sent to Siberia buddy trying to score internet points.

 

[Muse]

Whoops

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541218728108605440

Hopefully it's only the beginning.

 

[Zor Prime]

Giving Belarus nuclear device payload capable missiles is not the same as giving them nukes.

I somehow doubt they're going to be stuffed with pebbles.

Belarus is also asking Russia to make their Su-25's capable of carrying nukes which Putin has confirmed they will do in that same article.

It's not like Russia is foreign to the idea of giving other countries nukes when shit hits the fan.

 

[RnR_au]

Russia has five military districts, so far only the western one has engaged in Ukraine.

Just on this point, I don't believe this is correct. There are multiple reports that the other Districts are in Ukraine. Here is one source for example;

In the initial phase of the war, Russian ground forces invaded on four main fronts:

• Northern Front: Russian forces pushed toward Kyiv from Belarus, led by units from the Eastern Military District, including the 29th, 35th, and 36th Combined Arms Armies.
• Northeastern Front: Russian forces moved west toward Kyiv from Russian territory, led by units from the Central Military District, including the 41st Combined and 2nd Guards Combined Arms Armies.
• Eastern Front: Russian forces pushed toward Kharkiv and out of the Donbas, led by units from the Western Military District, including the 1st Guards Tank Army and 20th and 6th Combined Arms Armies.
• Southern Front: Russian forces moved from Crimea west toward Odesa, north toward Zaporizhzhia, and east toward Mariupol. They were led by units from the Southern Military District, including the 58th, 49th, and 8th Combined Arms Armies, VDV’s 7th Air Assault Division, and VDV’s 11th Air Assault Brigade.

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russias-ill-fated-invasion-ukraine-lessons-modern-warfare

 

[bononos]

Yes. Key word slowly.

No.
Russia is putting everything it has to retain what slow grinding momentum it has. If Ukraine could not hold it back, it would already be in Kiev.
Ukraine is fighting in the optimal manner for its overall strategic position in the war.
Every day Ukraine sacrifices its land to retain soldiers.
Every day Russia sacrifices soldiers to gain land and break resistance.
Ukraine appears to feel it will need soldiers later more then it needs land now.
Russia appears to keep Ukraine off balance, hoping to eventually knock Ukraine out and into surrender.

wild cards:
NATO weapons, Ukraine mobilization, Russian military districts, the famine, Russian sanctions, etc.

Slowly but also don't seem to be bleeding as many men like Ukraine. It looks like Russia has turned a corner in this war and fighting it in a way that they are much better at, apart from the DPK militia which are supposedly suffering very high casualties.

Ukraine seems to be throwing what ever it has at its disposal to plug up whatever gaps that have opened up where its front line units are getting beaten up. There are videos of Ukrainian reserves refusing to continue to fight after getting sent to the front. There has been like what, 4 mobilizations now for Ukraine? If Russia is having it bad, Ukraine is feeling it worse as time goes on.

 

[K1052]

A number of things ablaze/exploding in occupied Donbas again. Probable HIMARS targets.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541363225727569920

 

[K1052]

Slowly but also don't seem to be bleeding as many men like Ukraine. It looks like Russia has turned a corner in this war and fighting it in a way that they are much better at, apart from the DPK militia which are supposedly suffering very high casualties.

Given the way the Russian obfuscate their casualties this is hard to assess. If their losses are anything remotely close to the DPK's they are also in bad shape. They're already very short manpower so when their artillery does bash a hole in Ukrainian lines the advances are rather limited.

Ukraine seems to be throwing what ever it has at its disposal to plug up whatever gaps that have opened up where its front line units are getting beaten up. There are videos of Ukrainian reserves refusing to continue to fight after getting sent to the front. There has been like what, 4 mobilizations now for Ukraine? If Russia is having it bad, Ukraine is feeling it worse as time goes on.

Ukraine needs a mechanism for training and force generation. They aren't short of willing bodies. Boris proposed this the last time he was there that sending volunteers for a few weeks of training would dramatically improve their confidence and performance. Obviously training camps in country would be prime targets so out of country was suggested. That is unless greater surface to air capability can be obtained to keep out the cruise missiles and SRBMs.

 

[bononos]

Given the way the Russian obfuscate their casualties this is hard to assess. If their losses are anything remotely close to the DPK's they are also in bad shape. They're already very short manpower so when their artillery does bash a hole in Ukrainian lines the advances are rather limited.

Ukraine needs a mechanism for training and force generation. They aren't short of willing bodies. Boris proposed this the last time he was there that sending volunteers for a few weeks of training would dramatically improve their confidence and performance. Obviously training camps in country would be prime targets so out of country was suggested. That is unless greater surface to air capability can be obtained to keep out the cruise missiles and SRBMs.

Now it seems the Russians seems to be making the right moves using their artillery advantage, getting much better at shooting down Ukrainian warplanes/drones in areas they control, beefing up their DPK allies with older tanks. In just a few weeks, the tide has turned with Russia advancing in several areas and poised to cut off and trap more than 10k Ukrainian soldiers in the Severodonetsk area.

Ukrainian officials have said that they are facing around 100-200 deaths and 500-800 wounded per day. If Ukraine is losing 25k/month, thats probably why Ukrainian reserve units with a higher proportion of raw recruits without enough training/equipment are being pushed to the front line.

 

[K1052]

Now it seems the Russians seems to be making the right moves using their artillery advantage, getting much better at shooting down Ukrainian warplanes/drones in areas they control, beefing up their DPK allies with older tanks. In just a few weeks, the tide has turned with Russia advancing in several and poised to cut off and trap more than 10k Ukrainian soldiers in the Severodonetsk area.

The Russians had to pull out of several axes of advance and reconsolidate basically everything worth a damn for Severodonetsk, which has taken them weeks of all out effort (for them) to capture. They have not managed to successfully pocket the Ukrainians so far because that requires a rapid advance which they are not capable of and Ukrainian forces have been pretty mindful not to have this happen. So "success" is a pretty relative term especially compared to basically all the larger aims for the war with Russia has had to give up on.

I'm not sure I'd say thank you were I handed a T-62 in a country loaded to the gills with modern ATGMs and anti-armor RPGs. Russia used to ship better tanks to the separatists but they need whatever they've got left for themselves.

Ukrainian officials have said that they are facing around 100-200 deaths and 500-800 wounded per day. If Ukraine is losing 25k/month, thats probably why Ukrainian reserve units with a higher proportion of raw recruits without enough training/equipment are being pushed to the front line.

Without real knowledge of Russian and their allies casualties it's hard to make comparisons. If the DPK figures are accurate and can even be partially extrapolated across the Russian force they are also taking major casualties still. The same goes for the Ukrainians who largely aren't disclosing information on the regular.

 

[K1052]

I'm not sure blowing up shopping malls full of civilians well away from the front is going to manufacture the kind of splits in allied response/resolve Russia is looking for.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541430598342184960

 

[trenchfoot]

I'm not sure blowing up shopping malls full of civilians well away from the front is going to manufacture the kind of splits in allied response/resolve Russia is looking for.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541430598342184960

Not to mention how it further stiffens the resolve of the people of the UKR. If Putin thinks that terrorizing the civilian population of Ukraine will give him ultimate victory I have to wonder if he's going Zelenskyy hunting with big missiles or some other plan because on the face of it, Putin is just making things worse for himself. Or is their targeting skills and quality of hardware that bad?

 

[K1052]

US has not previously declared that it is supplying the M982. These would very much complement the 52 caliber guns entering wider Ukrainian use.

Confidence that Ukraine would not squander these expensive munitions has probably grown a lot.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541436856348336128

 

[K1052]

HIMARS might have paid its respects to the Russians on Snake Island

https://twitter.com/x/status/1541389394573201409

 

[Leeea]

Slowly but also don't seem to be bleeding as many men like Ukraine. It looks like Russia has turned a corner in this war and fighting it in a way that they are much better at, apart from the DPK militia which are supposedly suffering very high casualties.

Bullshit.

Ukraine seems to be throwing what ever it has at its disposal to plug up whatever gaps that have opened up where its front line units are getting beaten up.

More bullshit.

There are videos of Ukrainian reserves refusing to continue to fight after getting sent to the front.

link it.

Show us your true allegiance. Show us the root of the lies you are so desperately peddling.

Now it seems the Russians seems to be making the right moves using their artillery advantage, getting much better at shooting down Ukrainian warplanes/drones in areas they control, beefing up their DPK allies with older tanks.

Your just making shit up now.

Donetsk separatists’ desperate draft campaign empties streets of men

Men under 65 are spending their days in hiding, leaving wives and sisters to take over their jobs

www.theguardian.com

The Donetsk units that started the war were sent in as cannon fodder, died, and now Russia is conscripting everyone under the age of 65 in the area.

Russian is arming those conscripts with "exceptional" weapons to:

Russian and Ukrainian Conscripts from Donbas Fighting in Ukraine with Rifles from the 1800s

Conscripts from the Russian-backed Donbas separatists were reportedly using Mosin-Nagant rifles first produced in 1891 to fend off the Ukrainians on the frontlines.

sofrep.com

single shot bolt action rifles! from a time before Russia was a mafia state. It is hard to get more pathetic then that.

Ukrainian officials have said that they are facing around 100-200 deaths and 500-800 wounded per day. If Ukraine is losing 25k/month, thats probably why Ukrainian reserve units with a higher proportion of raw recruits without enough training/equipment are being pushed to the front line.
In just a few weeks, the tide has turned with Russia advancing in several areas and poised to cut off and trap more than 10k Ukrainian soldiers in the Severodonetsk area.

And last month Russia was going for Kykolaiv and Dnipro.

Have you looked at a map lately?
Asked your self why every month Russian offensive objectives keep getting closer to Russia?

I will help you out:
https://liveuamap.com/en/time/20.03.2022
https://liveuamap.com/en/time/27.06.2022
Notice how 3 months ago Russia held 2x the Ukrainian territory it holds today?
Do you know why that is?
It is because Russia is getting WTF PWNED. Attempting to shift the focus on the minor events does not change the over all picture of the war. This war has shown that Russia is a pathetic joke held together by a mafia "government". All it can do is scream at the world while the vast majority of its civilian population rots in squalor and poverty.

Ukrainian officials have said that they are facing around 100-200 deaths and 500-800 wounded per day. If Ukraine is losing 25k/month, thats probably why Ukrainian reserve units with a higher proportion of raw recruits without enough training/equipment are being pushed to the front line.

So you take Ukraine's worst day of fighting, and multiply it out for the entire month? Are you delusional? or just intentionally lying?


When the DPK lost its best militias Russia did not count them as causalities. I guess the Russia's puppets are not even considered human to you?



Right now Russia is losing 4 Russian "soldiers" for every Ukrainian it murders. Every day, that ratio gets worse for Russia. Russia's youth are being sacrificed in Ukraine for Putin's pride.

Russia is sending its young men to die in Ukraine on the whim of a rotten old man, and with their passing Russia's future dies.

That is the ultimate truth of the war you are so desperately trying to obfuscate. The glory of Russia was sold on ebay by a bunch of old men, and in Ukraine we see what remains is nothing more then a cruel joke.

 

[Leeea]

Russian tank demonstrates demining technique:

Spoiler: youtube link

Russia defaults on its sovereign debt:

Spoiler: yahoo link

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-defaulted-foreign-debt-first-070331115.html

Russia inflicts famine on Mariupol:

Spoiler: UA news link

Like during the Holodomor: people in Mariupol are forced to hunt pigeons due to lack of food

Victoria Andrieieva, staff writer at UP.Zhyttia

www.pravda.com.ua

G7 writes Ukraine a 29.5 billion USD check:

Spoiler: business-standard link

G7 plans more sanctions against Russia; Ukraine to get $29.5-bn support

The Group of Seven (G7) leaders on Monday said they intend to continue to impose individual sanctions against Russia amid a "devastating war" that has produced dramatic consequences

www.business-standard.com

Russia launches cyberattack on Lithuania:

Spoiler: abc news link

Cyberattack hits Lithuania after sanctions feud with Russia

Lithuania's Defense Ministry says a cyberattack temporarily knocked out public and private websites in the country with a pro-Moscow hacker group reportedly claiming responsibility

abcnews.go.com

US announces it will provide long and medium range air-defense to Ukraine:

Spoiler: cnn link

US to announce purchase of medium- to long-range surface-to-air missile defense system for Ukraine

The US plans to announce as soon as this week that it has purchased an advanced, medium-to-long range surface-to-air missile defense system for Ukraine, a source familiar with the announcement tells CNN.

www.cnn.com

Russia continues to demonstrate to the world it is nothing more then a two-bit thief at the highest levels:

Spoiler: bbc link on Ukrainian grain theft

Tracking where Russia is taking Ukraine's stolen grain

Russia is accused of thefts of vast quantities of grain from occupied Ukraine. Where is it being taken?

www.bbc.com

Ukrainian media claims Russia being pushed back on three fronts:
( most likely true at the moment, but the situation is in flux )

Spoiler: link

Ukrainian Armed Forces force Russians to retreat on three fronts - General Staff report

OLHA HLUSHCHENKO - MONDAY, 27 JUNE 2022, 07:07

www.pravda.com.ua

People continue to flee Russia:
mainly engineers, IT, tech personnel

Spoiler: aljazeera link

‘Criminal adventure’: Ukraine war fuels Russia’s brain drain

Nearly 4 million left Russia in the first three months of 2022, including IT specialists, journalists and researchers.

www.aljazeera.com

UK works to repair Ukrainian railroads to enable grain export:

Spoiler: interfax

UK to allocate up to 10 mln pounds sterling to repair Ukrainian railways for grain exports

interfax.com

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I would also take a moment to remind everyone in 1994 Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum, where it promised to never attack Ukraine if Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons.

Spoiler: wikipedia link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

Never forget that Russian government, its supporters, and online shills are lying pieces of shit that can never be trusted.

 

[Brovane]

Now it seems the Russians seems to be making the right moves using their artillery advantage, getting much better at shooting down Ukrainian warplanes/drones in areas they control, beefing up their DPK allies with older tanks. In just a few weeks, the tide has turned with Russia advancing in several areas and poised to cut off and trap more than 10k Ukrainian soldiers in the Severodonetsk area.

Ukrainian officials have said that they are facing around 100-200 deaths and 500-800 wounded per day. If Ukraine is losing 25k/month, thats probably why Ukrainian reserve units with a higher proportion of raw recruits without enough training/equipment are being pushed to the front line.

The Russians finally reduced their invasion ambitions down to their actual military capability.