Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Dave_5k

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Prior 2 posts gives a look at a just few of the shamelessly and completely Russian-compromised idiots, in the Senate:
95-1
Only Hawley voted NO. Rand Paul voted "Present"
And running political parties & formerly running key Western countries (or nearly so for Le Pen):
 

kage69

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Wave that douchebag flag loud and proud Paul and Hawley.

What would St. Reagan say? That Iranian arms dealer is probably spinning in his grave right now.
 
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zinfamous

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Also sounds like Ukraine hit the Antonovsky rail bridge again tonight, shorty after Russia completed repairs. Assuming the line has been out of commission at Brylivka for the past few days due to massive damage and the need to clear UXO before getting to work on repairs even if they are done soon they likely can't get a train into Kherson City. Supply of this front by train within GMLRS range seems....quite problematic.

At this point I wonder why the UA doesn't just let RA get on with the repairs and actually try to get some trucks and armor over that bridge, then blast it again. Air Defense is woeful against the Ukrainian asymmetric volley thing they are now doing, so just let them pile armor on top of that bridge to really get that sucker in the shit the next time it gets blasted. Let them tear up their shitty repairs some with their own tanks, and really weaken that structure before a few more GMLRS hits.
 
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Michael

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‘It’s just hell’: Ukraine says Russia has the upper hand in Donbas; U.S. approves Sweden and Finland to NATO”

CNBC headline.
 
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cytg111

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RnR_au

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Hmm... interesting stuff in this translation of the Arestovych and Feygin daily broadcast;
Important actions will start in a week.
...
🇺🇦 partisans, special forces and military intel working in harmony. Every time, there is some large hit, it’s also hard work of unnamed people.
These broadcasts will become “explosive” sometime next week, when 🇷🇺 offensive starts.
...
🇷🇺 is afraid of any 🇺🇦 success, that will be breaking point of morale for whole campaign. Everything is held together by illusion of 🇷🇺 doing offensive, that’s why 🇷🇺 propaganda is showing off every 100 meters of captured territory. 🇷🇺 is inadvertently announcing, that it can’t continue battle. They can continue pressure, wearing out, but they are afraid of any 🇺🇦 victory. 🇺🇦 task is to get that victory anywhere, and it’s moving towards that.
https://wartranslated.com/day-161-august-3-summary-of-arestovych-and-feygin-daily-broadcast/
 
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Asterox

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brycejones

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There are no surprises here, but now it is officially recognized as a reality.


Fucking weird,

A country's forces defending the country from an invasion are in the same locations as the citizens of that country.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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There are no surprises here, but now it is officially recognized as a reality.


Lol, Ukrainian defenses aren't putting civilians in danger, Russian weapons are. The only thing required for less Ukrainian civilians to die is for Russia to fuck off back to their pile of dirt.
 

kage69

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‘It’s just hell’: Ukraine says Russia has the upper hand in Donbas; U.S. approves Sweden and Finland to NATO”

CNBC headline.

You'll quote the article and blow up/bold the text, but you still refuse to link the source? Again, your personal annotations don't really mean much without support. It's easy, even faster, to do it in a way that doesn't get your post dismissed out of hand. Like this:

The Russian military keeps pushing in the Donbas, but without results



Making others do your legwork doesn't inspire confidence in the accuracy of your opinions. Just sayin.
 

fskimospy

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You'll quote the article and blow up/bold the text, but you still refuse to link the source? Again, your personal annotations don't really mean much without support. It's easy, even faster, to do it in a way that doesn't get your post dismissed out of hand. Like this:

The Russian military keeps pushing in the Donbas, but without results



Making others do your legwork doesn't inspire confidence in the accuracy of your opinions. Just sayin.
What’s really telling is if you zoom back out to Ukraine as a country. The amount of territory Russia has taken after the first couple weeks is minuscule and they’ve done it while grinding their army into paste.
 

K1052

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What’s really telling is if you zoom back out to Ukraine as a country. The amount of territory Russia has taken after the first couple weeks is minuscule and they’ve done it while grinding their army into paste.

Losing like a half dozen tanks, scores of IFVs, and hundreds of troops over a month to take a small village that have been reduced to rubble from your bombardments is now where the bar is for Russian "success".
 

brycejones

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Losing like a half dozen tanks, scores of IFVs, and hundreds of troops over a month to take a small village that have been reduced to rubble from your bombardments is now where the bar is for Russian "success".
Everything is going according to plan. 100 days into 3 day military operation, success is overwhelming, greatest strategy ever, bestest army on planet is Russian army
 

K1052

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Putin when the war started: Zelensky will be killed and we will own Ukraine.

Putin now: The ruins of those four houses on the road to Bakhmut are ours for the taking with your generous sacrifices, comrades.
 
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What’s really telling is if you zoom back out to Ukraine as a country. The amount of territory Russia has taken after the first couple weeks is minuscule and they’ve done it while grinding their army into paste.

Be interesting to see the "real time" movement of front-lines in this conflict compared to the advances and retreats back and forth across the same territory in WW2. My impression is that that war was a much more mobile one - but perhaps I have the wrong idea of the time scales that time?
 

fskimospy

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Putin when the war started: Zelensky will be killed and we will own Ukraine.

Putin now: The ruins of those four houses on the road to Bakhmut are ours for the taking with your generous sacrifices, comrades.
It’s been interesting to watch their rhetoric change. When it started the Russians were all like ‘we have no quarrel with Ukraine, we just must protect everyone from the Nazis.’ Now it’s like ‘Ukraine is a festering sore that must be scoured from the earth’.
 
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fskimospy

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Be interesting to see the "real time" movement of front-lines in this conflict compared to the advances and retreats back and forth across the same territory in WW2. My impression is that that war was a much more mobile one - but perhaps I have the wrong idea of the time scales that time?
As a VERY loose comparison during the Battle of the Dneiper over the course of roughly four months the Soviets advanced about the distance from Kharkiv to Kiev across a broad swath of Ukraine.
 

K1052

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It’s been interesting to watch their rhetoric change. When it started the Russians were all like ‘we have no quarrel with Ukraine, we just must protect everyone from the Nazis.’ Now it’s like ‘Ukraine is a festering sore that must be scoured from the earth’.

The burden of the war has also fallen hardest, by far, on the mostly Russian speaking areas Putin was supposedly there to protect.
 
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fskimospy

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The burden of the war has also fallen hardest, by far, on the mostly Russian speaking areas Putin was supposedly there to protect.
I do wonder what all those people who wanted to join Russia think of being essentially a part of Russia now.
 
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kage69

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What’s really telling is if you zoom back out to Ukraine as a country. The amount of territory Russia has taken after the first couple weeks is minuscule and they’ve done it while grinding their army into paste.

Sure is.

As of yesterday, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is claiming the following Russian casualties:

  • 41,350 Russian troops killed (approximately three times that number wounded and captured)
  • 4,022 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles destroyed
  • 2,922 vehicles and fuel tanks
  • 1,774 tanks
  • 939 artillery pieces
  • 740 tactical unmanned aerial systems
  • 223 fighter, attack, and transport jets
  • 259 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS)
  • 191 attack and transport helicopters
  • 180 cruise missiles shot down by the Ukrainian air defenses
  • 118 anti-aircraft batteries
  • 83 special equipment platforms, such as bridging equipment
  • 15 boats and cutters
  • four mobile Iskander ballistic missile systems


I believe the Brits were saying KIA was more like 50k, but no matter, that's a shitty ballpark.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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As a VERY loose comparison during the Battle of the Dneiper over the course of roughly four months the Soviets advanced about the distance from Kharkiv to Kiev across a broad swath of Ukraine.
And that likely wouldn't be possible today, given our weapon systems that were developed specifically to be able to combat the same tactics (long range ultra-precise explosives, able to hit supply lines 50+km behind enemy lines, AI controlled flying swords seeking bars and stars, among other things).
 
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