Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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RnR_au

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Some Ukrainian casualties numbers out of Russia;
The pro-Russian Telegram analyst “Atomic Cherry” uses data provided by the Russian LostArmour OSINT team combined with WWII and 20th century Soviet military studies to determine an estimated number of Ukrainian casualties in the 5+ months of the war between Ukraine and Russia. As per their estimation, while Ukraine has likely lost up to 25 thousand killed and over 100 thousand in total casualties (killed, wounded, captured), the claims of the media in Russia about the Ukrainian armed forces reaching their disintegration point due to losses is far-fetched. In fact, where combat losses have reached significant numbers, the Ukrainian forces remain very much combat-capable. The analyst predicts the Ukrainian army will be capable of continuing conducting military operations for at least 1,5 – 2 years.
https://wartranslated.com/russian-s...ses-significantly-below-russian-media-claims/

Another day, another Arestovych and Feygin daily broadcast. Some snippets;
  • The 35th Army of Russia has been assembled in the Enerhodar area, with a large group near Tokmak. It was their depot that was blown up in Novooleksiivka. This army is here to prevent a Ukrainian advance on Melitopol and Crimea. This is what the Russians fear the most. A strike here cripples the defence of the entire southern front from Kherson to Mariupol. If the Ukrainians can reach the Crimean border they can cover the whole Crimea with “all sorts of weapons” without entering Crimea. This would be a catastrophe for Russia.
  • Russian airbase in the Kursk region was also hit today 115km from the Ukrainian border.
  • 60% of Russian forces in Ukraine are now in the south.
  • Ukrainian aviation conducted daytime strikes in Kherson today which shows that the Russian AA in that area has been obliterated. Specifically the Russian forces that tried to advance towards Mykolaev yesterday were hit by the aviation.
From https://wartranslated.com/day-167-august-9-summary-of-arestovych-and-feygin-daily-broadcast/
 

kage69

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I do enjoy how feisty Kyiv is, how they garnished that piping hot plate of GTFO with just a bit of trolling. Bravo. Nice to see they likely have their own flavor of ATACMS too, though I'm still glad the HIMARS ammo is flowing.

Meanwhile, Russia is increasingly relying on convicts to fill it's ranks in Ukraine, is getting low on drones. I saw Ukraine worked out a deal with Baykar Makina, maker of the Bayraktar TB2, for a production plant to be built inside Ukraine. Land bought and plant designed apparently? President of Baykar Makina also ruled out ever supplying Russia with drones. I would hope so.
 
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Some Ukrainian casualties numbers out of Russia;
https://wartranslated.com/russian-s...ses-significantly-below-russian-media-claims/

Another day, another Arestovych and Feygin daily broadcast. Some snippets;
  • The 35th Army of Russia has been assembled in the Enerhodar area, with a large group near Tokmak. It was their depot that was blown up in Novooleksiivka. This army is here to prevent a Ukrainian advance on Melitopol and Crimea. This is what the Russians fear the most. A strike here cripples the defence of the entire southern front from Kherson to Mariupol. If the Ukrainians can reach the Crimean border they can cover the whole Crimea with “all sorts of weapons” without entering Crimea. This would be a catastrophe for Russia.
  • Russian airbase in the Kursk region was also hit today 115km from the Ukrainian border.
  • 60% of Russian forces in Ukraine are now in the south.
  • Ukrainian aviation conducted daytime strikes in Kherson today which shows that the Russian AA in that area has been obliterated. Specifically the Russian forces that tried to advance towards Mykolaev yesterday were hit by the aviation.
From https://wartranslated.com/day-167-august-9-summary-of-arestovych-and-feygin-daily-broadcast/
Sounds a lot like this is suddenly becoming a defensive war for Russia.
 

zinfamous

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I don't know about that. Roger has ALWAYS beat up politicians.
Proof is right in this vid of him ripping Trump to shreds.

Waters is making the Young Grasshopper argument: In his endless advocacy for the end of war and war mongering, which is a good and just thing, Waters puts on the same foot the tyrants that will always start wars, regardless of reason, as those that are forced to go to war and continue these wars to end the tyranny.

He is making Putin's argument that NATO has made Putin violent and angry for some reason, which is obviously absurd. One must wonder why Waters, after this very fair indictment of Donald Trump, is now on Putin's side by repeating this failed, absurd justification for endless warmongering and violence.
 

sandorski

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Waters is making the Young Grasshopper argument: In his endless advocacy for the end of war and war mongering, which is a good and just thing, Waters puts on the same foot the tyrants that will always start wars, regardless of reason, as those that are forced to go to war and continue these wars to end the tyranny.

He is making Putin's argument that NATO has made Putin violent and angry for some reason, which is obviously absurd. One must wonder why Waters, after this very fair indictment of Donald Trump, is now on Putin's side by repeating this failed, absurd justification for endless warmongering and violence.

It was disappointing to hear him. The alleged aggression by NATO is completely non-violent, Putin's action is violent but justified, Ukraine's resistance is bad because of the violence, bad bad NATO! My head is full of fuck.
 
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Captante

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I don't know about that. Roger has ALWAYS beat up politicians.
Proof is right in this vid of him ripping Trump to shreds.


Whatever else it is, that video is one heck of a rendition of "Pigs".

And idolizing rock stars is every bit as likely to end in disillusionment as professional athletes. (these folks are NOT usually famous because of their brain-power)
 

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Is there a chart for dummies on the mobile missile types that are in production and what their effective range is?

I've probably learned more about modern warfare from this thread than I have in the last 20 years of general reading.
 

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Is there a chart for dummies on the mobile missile types that are in production and what their effective range is?

I've probably learned more about modern warfare from this thread than I have in the last 20 years of general reading.

As far as US systems that Ukraine has access to:

Only active stuff is the M31 GMLRS series and M48/M57 ATACMS. PrSM forthcoming next year to replace the rather old ATACMS.

ER-GMLRS is supposed to be in production this year and there is a possibility we've started to supply it to Ukraine. Figure roughly double the 80km range of the M31.

 

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Not sure I can fully appreciate the giddyness that a bunch of engineers and defense CEO's are expressing over this conflict. Can't beat an active conflict to test and validate readiness of your products.
 

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Not sure I can fully appreciate the giddyness that a bunch of engineers and defense CEO's are expressing over this conflict. Can't beat an active conflict to test and validate readiness of your products.

We have been able to see how stuff does in the Middle East and learned a lot but never directly against the Russians operating their claimed top flight gear. Moreover this is exactly what all this equipment was specifically designed for (blowing up invading Russians) so I'm sure there is certainly some satisfaction in seeing it provide good service.

This is good for the Europeans too like Germany who is discovering that their fancy robotic howitzers are quite potent but need reliability improvements.
 

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I'm certainly no war hawk, and can't fully express how upset Russia's actions have made me, but I recognize that war is a human thing and we won't be free from it until we are extinct.

That said, I can appreciate technological advances that allow pinpoint targeting of military objectives while minimizing civilian casualties.
 

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We have been able to see how stuff does in the Middle East and learned a lot but never directly against the Russians operating their claimed top flight gear. Moreover this is exactly what all this equipment was specifically designed for (blowing up invading Russians) so I'm sure there is certainly some satisfaction in seeing it provide good service.

This is good for the Europeans too like Germany who is discovering that their fancy robotic howitzers are quite potent but need reliability improvements.
This conflict has shown how the US has no remotely close military peer. Newly trained troops with far less support and infrastructure than our troops would have are using our systems to demolish the supposedly second best army in the world. Imagine what the US army would have done to the Russians here.
 

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kage69

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Potentially another Ukrainian hit in Crimea.

Edit: right on the Crimean border, but deep within Russian held territory.


And Crimea is still evacuating.


100km long traffic jam. Damn. Crimeans know what's up, Russian transplants know what's up. Sounds like the FSB guys who were sent to Crimea saw what was in the mail?

I wish the market in my neck of the woods had that kind of availability.
 
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NERA and NxRA operate similarly to explosive reactive armour, but without the explosive liner. Two metal plates sandwich an inert liner, such as rubber. When struck by a shaped charge's metal jet, some of the impact energy is dissipated into the inert liner layer, and the resulting high pressure causes a localized bending or bulging of the plates in the area of the impact. As the plates bulge, the point of jet impact shifts with the plate bulging, increasing the effective thickness of the armour. This is almost the same as the second mechanism that explosive reactive armour uses, but it uses energy from the shaped charge jet rather than from explosives.
 
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