Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Perknose

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A pair of very intense videos from a few days ago. Ukrainian assault on Russian fortified position.

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shows close quarters combat and death. Ukrainian and Russian losses.
the first video is an overhead view, note the drone is deceptive as to ground elevation:
It is easy to focus on the fate of the Ukrainian BMP squad, but the drone hides the elevation. Most likely survived.
The BMP was able to lay down a lot of fire, it likely KIAed the most number of Orcs.

The Ukrainian IFV pulls out right away after its squad deploys. It is the IFV squad that wins the engagement.
The BMP leaves when it does because it is likely time for an ammo refill and time to go pick up another squad.

The second video is from a Ukrainian soldiers helmet cam, from the IFV in the first video.
Pretty brutal, the orcs likely were unable to think straight after the LAW rocket was fired into their position.

The whole time your staring at the drone view of the first video, these guys are winning the engagement.
Ugh. I'm just a creaky old man too long and too safe not to get deeply disturbed at the reminder of how ugly and dirty infantry engagements really are.
 
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Jaskalas

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Were I in his shoes I'd probably pull back to the Feb 23rd line in Luhansk since that's pretty fucked and try to get everything back from the wrong side of the Dnieper that I could and fortify the south. There is a desperate need for the Russian army to shrink it's frontline to something remotely manageable for the manpower they've got. But if Putin is obsessing over maps in his dacha...

And if I were Ukraine, it would be HIMARs all over Crimea. The bridge would be blown, there would be no escape.
Crimea would be a wasteland eager to surrender in mere weeks. All Ukraine needs to do is cut the land bridge, reach the Sea of Azov, and it is game over.

Russia cannot hold under your scenario.
 
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cytg111

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Meanwhile, an alternate Russian reality - with propaganda crafted by Tucker/Fox:
Going to have to rename Tucker as Baghdad Bob's replacement... Fox is actually more pro-Russia than even Russian state-controlled media was carrying this weekend (they're still struggling to find a positive message out of this rout)
Well.. Tucker found a replacement dong to deep throat.
 
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K1052

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And if I were Ukraine, it would be HIMARs all over Crimea. The bridge would be blown, there would be no escape.
Crimea would be a wasteland eager to surrender in mere weeks. All Ukraine needs to do is cut the land bridge, reach the Sea of Azov, and it is game over.

Russia cannot hold under your scenario.

I didn't mean to imply I thought they could hold the entire south. The question is how much could they realistically maintain. I doubt a whole lot west of Mariupol. Crimea is probably defensible still even if at considerable cost.
 
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RnR_au

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More rumours... but could be true. As mentioned in the thread, pockets of northern Kherson could be very difficult to supply for the Russians.


Also from the thread above;
I spoke with a former German POW from North Africa one time. He said Hitler told them to fight to the last bullet. So one night they all shot thousands of rounds into the [air] until they were out and surrendered the next day.
heh
 

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If the Russians substantially fortified it yeah I think they could. There would be an ongoing tab though.

They could only reach it by air and by sea...
The port would be inoperable ruins.
Fortification is not a realistic concept for a relatively isolated pocket and the modern artillery / drones we have given Ukraine.

Kherson is fortified. Watch what happens.
 

K1052

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They could only reach it by air and by sea...
The port would be inoperable ruins.
Fortification is not a realistic concept for a relatively isolated pocket and the modern artillery / drones we have given Ukraine.

Kherson is fortified. Watch what happens.

There are enough ports and beaches on the southern side to resupply indefinitely by sea, largely out of range of Ukrainian weapons. Russian AD, drones, and rocket forces could concentrate on a relatively small area of Ukraine to defend against. It's doable though at a cost.

If the Kremlin continues the war as is however this might not be the case as their resources dwindle.
 
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