Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Michael

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The pro Ukraine narratives/propaganda is... pro Ukraine. Why are you sabotaging Ukraine psyops campaign?

How can I be sabotaging anything posting on an obscure tech forum? How is anyone supposed to know what is a Ukraine psyops campaign vs. a Russian one vs. some other actor? Or just people posting on Twitter because they want to.


Scroll back to Friday/last weekend and see all the posts saying Lyman was falling the next day. Which is what I said, mnay posts claiming victory tomorrow when it has been a harder slog than many expected. Unless those were all Russians trying to sow false hope or something.
 
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K1052

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They will have to ramp up production but that may take longer than the rate they are depleted.


Certain stocks are low (155mm shells in particular) but we've got oodles of other stuff. The US didn't anticipate suppling a major tube war since that's not really how we fight.

Also the characterization of the 105mm L119/M119 gun being a 2nd class weapon vs the 155mm guns isn't really good. They are very good replacements (more accurate and longer range) for 122mm soviet caliber guns and are much more mobile than 155s.
 

kage69

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Certain stocks are low (155mm shells in particular) but we've got oodles of other stuff. The US didn't anticipate suppling a major tube war since that's not really how we fight.

Also the characterization of the 105mm L119/M119 gun being a 2nd class weapon vs the 155mm guns isn't really good. They are very good replacements (more accurate and longer range) for 122mm soviet caliber guns and are much more mobile than 155s.

Everything is second class to an M777 if you're talking a towed piece, but couldn't agree more - the venerable 105 is no slouch and yeah, 'we got gobs of it round tha back.'

M119 has been kept polished but just think what Ukraine could do with 100 Hawkeyes. Fast. Small. 15km of reach. A larger, better version of what the Iranians do with those little jeeps and mini MLRS on the back.

 

kage69

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Pipeline sabotage has Losharik like action written all over it far as I'm concerned. I'm sure they've got more than one way to do it, not that it's crazy deep there. No real different than going after undersea data cables.

Putin is finalizing the parting of ways with the EU, this helps prevent any of his bratva buddies from having incentive to work with the EU and make money as part of a post Putin Russia. Energy going West is being throttled down. Putin is giving himself some breathing room. He risked it as he knows it's hard to prove guilt in this case.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Everything is second class to an M777 if you're talking a towed piece, but couldn't agree more - the venerable 105 is no slouch and yeah, 'we got gobs of it round tha back.'

M119 has been kept polished but just think what Ukraine could do with 100 Hawkeyes. Fast. Small. 15km of reach. A larger, better version of what the Iranians do with those little jeeps and mini MLRS on the back.

clearly we need to build siege tanks from starcraft
 
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pmv

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Someone else mentioned that Russia’s reaction is also very telling. The guys who threaten nuclear war every time their lunch order is late are just like ‘I guess we will just have to wait and see’ on this one.

Yeah, that's a good point - it was their strategic infrastructure as much as anyone else's that somebody blew up. One would think they'd at least pretend to be shocked and outraged. Even OJ vowed to 'find the real killer'.
 
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K1052

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Everything is second class to an M777 if you're talking a towed piece, but couldn't agree more - the venerable 105 is no slouch and yeah, 'we got gobs of it round tha back.'

M119 has been kept polished but just think what Ukraine could do with 100 Hawkeyes. Fast. Small. 15km of reach. A larger, better version of what the Iranians do with those little jeeps and mini MLRS on the back.


Yeah, the Hawkeye would be a good fit for Ukraine when mounted on a Mack Sherpa.
 
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IronWing

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Everything is second class to an M777 if you're talking a towed piece, but couldn't agree more - the venerable 105 is no slouch and yeah, 'we got gobs of it round tha back.'

M119 has been kept polished but just think what Ukraine could do with 100 Hawkeyes. Fast. Small. 15km of reach. A larger, better version of what the Iranians do with those little jeeps and mini MLRS on the back.

That video, never once, "F', tree's in the way! F' another tree!"
 
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