Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Zor Prime

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I have my doubts Ukraine is going to get the required votes if for no other reason that they're currently at war.
 
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I have my doubts Ukraine is going to get the required votes if for no other reason that they're currently at war.

Hungary.
So we should probably spit Hungary out and offer the seat to Ukraine instead.
Get on the official business of expelling Hungary of NATO and EU today, right now, yesterday, stat.
Actually, Hungary's stand on Russia might be something Poland can understand.
 
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Nuke plant manager didn't make it to his destination.

Russia kidnaps head of Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant

The Daily Telegraph|1 hour ago
The head of Ukraine's occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station has been kidnapped by Russian forces, the state-owned company in charge of the plant said on Saturday. Ihor Murashov was abducted on his way from Europe's largest nuclear plant to the town of Enerhodar on Friday afternoon, ...
 
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Michael

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NY Times is reporting that Russia is withdrawing from Lyman. That is good news. Great news if the “withdrawing” means that the forces there were actually destroyed / captured.

It has been reported since last weekend that Ukraine had any possible avenue of retreat covered by at least artillery and in many cases direct fire, so I hope the report of a withdrawal is really the destruction of the Russian forces there.
 

K1052

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NY Times is reporting that Russia is withdrawing from Lyman. That is good news. Great news if the “withdrawing” means that the forces there were actually destroyed / captured.

It has been reported since last weekend that Ukraine had any possible avenue of retreat covered by at least artillery and in many cases direct fire, so I hope the report of a withdrawal is really the destruction of the Russian forces there.

The likely fate of most Russians trying to get out of Lyman. Ukraine mined the road with rocket/tube delivered anti-tank mines, had it under active observation, and had the route zeroed for their artillery. Staying was suicide but I think Putin forbid a retreat so as to not ruin his big day in Moscow.

 
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Lifer
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If its just Kadorov... fine... crazy idiot. But if a number of Putin's inner circle is calling for the same thing...

I didn't call for us to move into position and prepare for nothing.
The Russian military seems defeated at this point.
To continue their genocidal invasion of Europe, some parts of Russia want a full on nuclear exchange.

Some of them have said MAD does not exist, or does not apply. We must demonstrate that it does.
 
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Lifer
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Some of them have said MAD does not exist, or does not apply. We must demonstrate that it does.

Hell, maybe for Russia to get the message... we need to step in directly. US / NATO inside Ukraine. That way Russia understands that any nuke is suicide and our threat is not a bluff.
 

Zorba

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Russian sources agree they've lost it. Very high Russian losses reported by Ukrainian sources, a stunning number of bodies.
It'd be nice if they could load up the bodies in a cargo plane and dump them on Moscow, maybe wake up the populace there to what is really going on.
 
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K1052

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It'd be nice if they could load up the bodies in a cargo plane and dump them on Moscow, maybe wake up the populace there to what is really going on.

I doubt their public would care. Any major change in Moscow is likely to be driven by one thug replacing the current one instead of a popular uprising. Though there could be some issues in the ethnic minority regions.
 
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What does a poorly worded tweet have to do with me? I have never attended or been part of a CPAC meeting. I have never been to any US political party meeting. Only have been a US citizen for one Presidential election and I voted Biden/Harris because I can’t stand Trump.
Look under your bed
 

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that's one viewpoint I guess

More on the subject. Of how Russia's genocidal invasion of Europe is the planet's most dangerous moment thus far. The precedent the US set for nukes (in Korea) is that we are willing to lose wars before we will use them. Our nation's stance is that we cannot use nukes. Putin declared something very different yesterday.

 
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