Not even the nuke part, it'll unify Russia. Russia isn't changing except from within because they have the means of deleting civilization, the last thing you want to do is unify the country. Your average grunt going through the motions suddenly has a bounce in their step and initiative whereas right now only the occasional zealot does. If Russia could sort out equipment and logistics it wouldn't be pretty coupled with initiative.I think if Ukraine hits Moscow with missiles that gives Putin the extra bump he wants to use nukes. Right now Ukraine has the higher moral ground.... killing civilians in Moscow does not help their situation.
I've seen plenty of online leftists, in the form of DSA chapters or others, who completely sidestep the issue of Russian imperialism and either blame both sides, or simply ignore Russian aggression and parrot propaganda that this is a US proxy war. These particular progressive and/or leftist posters' foreign policy view boils down to "US bad".I’m not aware of any post 1920s progressives claiming that Russia and the USSR weren’t/aren’t imperial powers.
Send us your tired, your hungry, your poor, your oppressed.
Im genuinely curious about the assumption that russia has actually done a decent job of maintaining their strategic forces. Weve already seen strategic forces member pushed to the front, that's bad news. Maintaining something as complex as rockets is orders of magnitude more difficult than tanks and other infantry equipment. And weve seen how that worked out.
One could specualte that grifters would target strategic rocket forces first and foremost, since those are the least likely to be found out (what you gonna do, lob one in the air to check?).
I bet $25, you bet the State of New York.That is exactly what they do in the US. The US does regularly test it's weapon by doing test launches of missiles. They communicate to Russia head of time before a test launch.
I would share the assumption that Russian strategic forces are in bad shape. However anyone want to bet that the missile aimed at New York will not function correctly if launched?
I suspect their strategic forces are in sorry shape as well, but all they really need is for about 10% of it to work as advertised.Im genuinely curious about the assumption that russia has actually done a decent job of maintaining their strategic forces. Weve already seen strategic forces member pushed to the front, that's bad news. Maintaining something as complex as rockets is orders of magnitude more difficult than tanks and other infantry equipment. And weve seen how that worked out.
One could specualte that grifters would target strategic rocket forces first and foremost, since those are the least likely to be found out (what you gonna do, lob one in the air to check?).
Yeah thats not math i want any part of.I suspect their strategic forces are in sorry shape as well, but all they really need is for about 10% of it to work as advertised.
They need a lot more then that.I suspect their strategic forces are in sorry shape as well, but all they really need is for about 10% of it to work as advertised.
I don’t agree. 10% is several hundred nuclear warheads. In addition as previously mentioned I am skeptical of our mid course intercept capability.They need a lot more then that.
NATO has missile defenses
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10% is just enough to kill a whole bunch of civilians, but not enough to cripple. However, the return strike would end Russia. One thing this war has shown is NATO weapons go bang quite reliability.
I think nobody actually knows how much Russian's WMDs will actually work, including Putin. Putin clearly did not understand the capabilities of his army. In that position, even if the leadership was predisposed to nuking something, would they risk it?
If they toss a WMD at Ukraine and it malfunctions, it is going to be a deer in the headlights moment for Russia.
10% of Russia's arsenal is easily enough to annihilate most of America's major city centers, even taking missile defenses into account.They need a lot more then that.
NATO has missile defenses
and
10% is just enough to kill a whole bunch of civilians, but not enough to cripple. However, the return strike would end Russia. One thing this war has shown is NATO weapons go bang quite reliability.
I think nobody actually knows how much Russian's WMDs will actually work, including Putin. Putin clearly did not understand the capabilities of his army. In that position, even if the leadership was predisposed to nuking something, would they risk it?
If they toss a WMD at Ukraine and it malfunctions, it is going to be a deer in the headlights moment for Russia.
Like I said, what happens if they throw a WMD at Ukraine and it fails?I don’t agree. 10% is several hundred nuclear warheads. In addition as previously mentioned I am skeptical of our mid course intercept capability.
One warhead is a catastrophe, much less 20, 30, 40. I think we agree that Russia’s equipment is decrepit but unlike their conventional forces a very low readiness rate is still effective.
Completely agree with what you said.Not even the nuke part, it'll unify Russia. Russia isn't changing except from within because they have the means of deleting civilization, the last thing you want to do is unify the country. Your average grunt going through the motions suddenly has a bounce in their step and initiative whereas right now only the occasional zealot does. If Russia could sort out equipment and logistics it wouldn't be pretty coupled with initiative.
I believe current policy is to give them a hearing date and let them go.