Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Chuckles .......



"Oleksiy Danilov, Ukraine's Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, posted a video on Twitter of Marilyn Monroe singing "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" next to footage of the bridge on fire.




"Good morning, Ukraine," the caption said."



Well, there was a tractor from Belarus, but yeah .....


According to The New York Times investigative reporter Michael Schwirtz, a senior Ukrainian military official said: "Putin should be happy. Not everyone gets such an expensive present on their birthday."


 

RnR_au

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at the 3 second mark, you see a boat just under the bridge, then boom
If indeed it is a stealth bomb boat and not a truck bomb, then it means the Ukrainians can do it again.

But would a boat explosion be able to trigger fuel railcars to explode as well? Maybe it was multiple explosions with different causes and just the right timing.
 
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RnR_au

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The right blue dot in the map is Tokmak. Apparently the rail depot there got hit hard a few nights ago. The map is from this page where they talk about the Southern rail networks and its implications including Tokmak. Translated link - https://texty-org-ua.translate.goog...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Tokmak is only 30km from the front line. Well within range of artillery.
 
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Number1

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It will be interesting to see the reaction from russian TV.
I fear russia could use this as a pretext to nuke a few UA cities but it is a risk worth taking.
Certainly it will accelerate putain's demise.
 
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Decent high level overview of why HIMARS has proven to be such a game changer

Accuracy:
Russian artillery—like most such systems since World War I—lacks precision. To destroy a target, troops generally level everything around it. Gunners following maps rain shells in a grid pattern that aims to leave no terrain in a quadrant untouched. Russian forces in Ukraine are lobbing dozens of shells per acre to hit one objective, analysts say.

Himars can do the job with one rocket carrying a 200-pound explosive warhead. Each Ukrainian Himars carries one six-rocket pod that can effectively land the punch of more than 100,000 lbs. of traditional artillery.

Mobility:
Within minutes, the two Himars rumbled out from cover under an apricot grove toward the launch spot in a nearby sunflower field. Thirty seconds after arriving, they fired seven missiles in quick succession. Before the projectiles hit their targets, the trucks were returning to base camp.
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Himars teams drive to the ammo drop spots, where a waiting three-man loading team removes spent pods and swaps in full ones within five minutes, using a crane integrated into the vehicle.
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Russia’s best truck-based rocket launchers, by contrast, can require around 20 minutes to set up in the launch spot and 40 minutes to reload—critical time when the enemy tries to return fire. The Himars can drive faster and has an armored crew cabin.

And maybe the biggest - Logistics:
Artillery is cumbersome. During Operation Desert Storm in Iraq in 1991, it accounted for more than 60% of a U.S. division’s weight. Moving it demands soldiers, trucks, fuel and time, plus additional soldiers and vehicles to protect those supply operations.
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The supply chain for Himars units consists of factory-packaged rocket pods stashed at pickup points in the nearby countryside and usually hidden by foliage. A cargo truck deposits the camouflage-green pods—each a little bigger than a single bed—at a string of designated locations, not unlike a commercial delivery route.

A rocket pod replacing 100,000lbs or artillery ammunition logistically is huge
 

Mai72

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My Question:

I've watched interviews with retired US generals on what America would do if Russia used a tactical nuke against Ukraine forces. There was everything from hitting Russia via cyberwarfare, to severly crippling Russia's economy even further, targeting Russian nuclear silos so we can make them inoperable, to targeting every Russina troop and eliminating them permenantly. That would include foot soliders in Ukraine, to the subs that Russia has in the Black Sea. Total elimination.

But this is the most dangerous part IMO. There is no doubt that Ameria has the superior technology. We also have the superior military. And, if Putin resorts to using tactical nukes which is now very possible, and we start to take out Russian positions, wouldn't that cause Russia (Putin) to lash out with a nuclear war against America and most of the world? Would it even be possible for America to take out every Russian nuclear silo? I don't seee that happening. But the question should be: Would Putin start a nuclear war if he thought that he was facing annihilation?

Nuclear arsenal of Russia; As of 2022, the Federation of American Scientists estimates that Russia possesses 5,977 nuclear weapons, while the United States has 5,428; Russia and the U.S. each have about 1,600 active deployed strategic nuclear warheads.
 
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