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I'm not sure if people have internalized the idea that if Republicans in Congress say 'we are going to defund Ukraine' Biden would just say no and that would be the end of it.People congress is going to pass 40-50B worth of aid for Ukraine in the lame duck, enough to keep them going all though early 2024 at a minimum. The Russians are really going to need some sort of favorable static situation before that money would run out.
One can hope - but Congress not only has appropriation authority, Congress also fully retains the authority to rescind any such prior appropriationsWell you will be pleasantly surprised when Republicans are completely unable to defund Ukraine aid and appropriations then, haha.
Repeat after me: Assuming Democrats pass additional funding for Ukraine before next January, which they fully have the votes to do and plan on doing, Republicans cannot do anything to affect aid to Ukraine. Period.
How would they go about doing that?One can hope - but Congress not only has appropriation authority, Congress also fully retains the authority to rescind any such prior appropriations
I'm not sure if people have internalized the idea that if Republicans in Congress say 'we are going to defund Ukraine' Biden would just say no and that would be the end of it.
Biden can continue lend-lease program, but if Republicans rescind all Ukraine appropriations, that will be all he can do. Haven't looked hard at limits of the lend-lease program that was passedI'm not sure if people have internalized the idea that if Republicans in Congress say 'we are going to defund Ukraine' Biden would just say no and that would be the end of it.
Two options, one requires President, other is just done via normal congressional procedures.How would they go about doing that?
Same as Obama, Biden will not allow any amendments to the debt ceiling so that's not going to work. Any attempt to rescind Ukraine funding will be vetoed and there is a 0% chance of Republicans being able to override that veto.Biden can continue lend-lease program, but if Republicans rescind all Ukraine appropriations, that will be all he can do. Haven't looked hard at limits of the lend-lease program that was passed
Two options, one requires President, other is just done via normal congressional procedures.
Under normal procedures, it is just like any other congressional bill - which the President can veto - while the Repubs will plan to include it with "must pass" legislation like the debt ceiling to make it difficult to veto.Rescissions, Rescissions: How Congress Can Use the Rescission Process Responsibly
Rescission authority is a hot topic, ever since Wall Street Journal investigative columnist Kim Strassel reminded Congress of a power it seemingly forgot it had. The rescissions process is a powerful tool that allows Congress to cut spending free from the threat of a filibuster. But while this...www.congressionalinstitute.org
'Pubs don't play by the rules. If there is a rule saying they can't do something, they change the rules so they can .... see SCOTUS confirmations.How would they go about doing that?
If Republicans did tie rescinding to a debt ceiling bill Biden wouldn't be able to do anything about it but let it ride. You don't choose another country over your own. My God, talk about the optics on that one, haunting Democrats for a century.Same as Obama, Biden will not allow any amendments to the debt ceiling so that's not going to work. Any attempt to rescind Ukraine funding will be vetoed and there is a 0% chance of Republicans being able to override that veto.
There is nothing Republicans can do vis a vis Ukraine aid - they are completely powerless.
If Republicans did tie rescinding to a debt ceiling bill Biden wouldn't be able to do anything about it but let it ride. You don't choose another country over bankrupting your own. My God, talk about the optics on that one, haunting Democrats for a century.
I don't see it happening anyway, I was being theoretical. I think both sides are pretty much in the middle together for the time being. McCarthy was an idiot with the "no blank check" quip -- nobody expects there to be an indefinite blank check to begin with ... (or am I wrong?)Ukraine money cut is about the 5th or 6th thing that Republicans might demand for a debt ceiling raise. We're probably not going to hit it until mid-23 anyway.
I don't see it happening anyway, I was being theoretical. I think both sides are pretty much in the middle together for the time being. McCarthy was an idiot with the "no blank check" quip -- nobody expects there to be an indefinite blank check to begin with ... (or am I wrong?)
One can hope - but Congress not only has appropriation authority, Congress also fully retains the authority to rescind any such prior appropriations
Absolutely not. You do realize Republicans tried this exact play under Obama, right? Obama’s answer was that he would not negotiate a single thing in regards to the debt ceiling. Nothing.If Republicans did tie rescinding to a debt ceiling bill Biden wouldn't be able to do anything about it but let it ride. You don't choose another country over your own. My God, talk about the optics on that one, haunting Democrats for a century.
This is true, although I wouldn’t be that surprised to see that all of a sudden Ukraine funding is a ‘major question’ when wall funding was not.Not true any longer. The Supreme Court gave permission for the chief executive, aka the President, to raid any and all funds already allocated for anything, as long as an "emergency" is declared. Don't think Biden will have difficulty declaring just that, giving him all sorts of funding.
Biden can continue lend-lease program, but if Republicans rescind all Ukraine appropriations, that will be all he can do. Haven't looked hard at limits of the lend-lease program that was passed
Two options, one requires President, other is just done via normal congressional procedures.
Under normal procedures, it is just like any other congressional bill - which the President can veto - while the Repubs will plan to include it with "must pass" legislation like the debt ceiling to make it difficult to veto.Rescissions, Rescissions: How Congress Can Use the Rescission Process Responsibly
Rescission authority is a hot topic, ever since Wall Street Journal investigative columnist Kim Strassel reminded Congress of a power it seemingly forgot it had. The rescissions process is a powerful tool that allows Congress to cut spending free from the threat of a filibuster. But while this...www.congressionalinstitute.org