Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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IronWing

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Poland is very much going to want to message to the Kremlin that this is not ok. How exactly that message is delivered is a question.
My take is that the response should come from NATO rather than Poland alone. It would strengthen the alliance and make sure that the Russians get the message that Poland is a full NATO member and will be defended as such.
 

K1052

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My take is that the response should come from NATO rather than Poland alone. It would strengthen the alliance and make sure that the Russians get the message that Poland is a full NATO member and will be defended as such.

I do think a unified response is most likely. Could be something Russian goes boom or more likely the west supplies certain weapons it has been withholding from Kyiv.
 
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Artorias

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Nope not after 9/11. When we needed help they helped us.

If Poland calls for article 5.. we have to help.. otherwise what the fuck is the point of NATO?

It should be a measured response, Russia is on the brink of loosing this war and could be Putin playing the last of his cards.
 
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Artorias

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This is...not an exaggeration of likely Polish sentiment to a deliberate act. I don't think this was intentional but if the Russians do not admit to the mistake or worse say the Poles deserved it things could easily escalate.

It could very well be a fishing expedition, Poland should not take the bait but there has to be some response.
 
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Paratus

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This is...not an exaggeration of likely Polish sentiment to a deliberate act. I don't think this was intentional but if the Russians do not admit to the mistake or worse say the Poles deserved it things could easily escalate.
Agreed. Something like this was bound to happen. Either through error on the battlefield or error in strategy.

Won't know which until Russia publicly addresses the missile strike.

(Edit: Let's face it, could be either. Their incompetence on the battlefield has only been matched by their incomptenance in starting and executing the war in the first place)
 
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kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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Oh shit.

The Poles have to be absolutely salivating at the thought of killing some Russians now. Will they take it as a mistake, or an intentional slap in the face? We've had errant missiles in the area before, Ukrainian launched IIRC.
 
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K1052

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Oh shit.

The Poles have to be absolutely salivating at the thought of killing some Russians now. Will they take it as a mistake, or an intentional slap in the face?

They have to determine what happened first, which should be easy with the available radar data. Given the circumstances I expect a measured but firm response. That could change depending how Moscow addresses this however.

Also the defense group where nations pledge weapons for Ukraine is going to be held tomorrow. Likely some governments decide to step up lethal aid contributions again.
 
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rommelrommel

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At the very, very least Poland is going to be looking to deliver some significant new capabilities to Ukraine. They have some ATACMS of their own…
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Their weapons suck and it’s probably an accident, but this is example number who the fuck even knows about why engaging in aggressive wars is a bad fucking idea.

Don't really give a shit. You better be extra careful waging a war near the borders of a NATO nation. This isn't Kim Jong Un shooting missiles over Japan, two people were killed here.
 
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