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That looks eerily familiar. Like one of our first handheld anti aircraft missiles. Can't remember it's name.
That looks eerily familiar. Like one of our first handheld anti aircraft missiles. Can't remember it's name.
They keep talking about maintenance of the turbine and that is only takes jet fuel. If my memory serves, it's like the opposite of the selling point for the turbine. Low maintenance, multi fuel capable. Probably spending all the time changing/ cleaning air filters.not that the abrams isn't an awesome tank, but the US position was that it's so much more complicated than other tanks - operations, logistics, and maintenance - that it's difficult to deploy. and training and deployment certainly won't happen immediately.
but even if it's just to get germany off its ass with Leopard exports, that's 31 M1s well spent for democracy in Ukraine.
assuming the M1s do get deployed next year (what i read as far as how long training and logistics setup would take), i have no doubt they will be highly effective
It'll be interesting to see where and when the training takes place. It wouldn't be good to have the tanks sitting in Ukraine before the crews are ready to go. Sitting, they'd be prime targets for the Rooskies to score a propaganda coup or two. Even if they never engage, they will have done their job, which was to get the Germans onboard.not that the abrams isn't an awesome tank, but the US position was that it's so much more complicated than other tanks - operations, logistics, and maintenance - that it's difficult to deploy. and training and deployment certainly won't happen immediately.
but even if it's just to get germany off its ass with Leopard exports, that's 31 M1s well spent for democracy in Ukraine.
assuming the M1s do get deployed next year (what i read as far as how long training and logistics setup would take), i have no doubt they will be highly effective
not that the abrams isn't an awesome tank, but the US position was that it's so much more complicated than other tanks - operations, logistics, and maintenance - that it's difficult to deploy. and training and deployment certainly won't happen immediately.
but even if it's just to get germany off its ass with Leopard exports, that's 31 M1s well spent for democracy in Ukraine.
assuming the M1s do get deployed next year (what i read as far as how long training and logistics setup would take), i have no doubt they will be highly effective
They keep talking about maintenance of the turbine and that is only takes jet fuel. If my memory serves, it's like the opposite of the selling point for the turbine. Low maintenance, multi fuel capable. Probably spending all the time changing/ cleaning air filters.
I'm not sure how grateful Xi is going to be for Putin for waking the west up about it's limited munitions production capacity.
A ground war in Europe will be NOTHING like an air and naval battle in the Pacific.
Not sure it would even have the same nations, aside from the US.
Artillery shells won't be bothering Xi.
A ground war in Europe will be NOTHING like an air and naval battle in the Pacific.
Not sure it would even have the same nations, aside from the US.
Artillery shells won't be bothering Xi.
Unlike some others, I don't see Putin being overthrown anytime soon. He's the Czar. I don't think we in the West fully appreciate how fully craven subordination, fatalism and a seemingly bottomless tolerance of deep suffering is etched right into the warp and woof in the psyche of Russians. Russia is . . . different. Remember, for one, unlike the rest of Europe, Russia did not experience the Renaissance.
Wouldn't it be interesting if when WW3 breaks out that Germany would be part of "The Allies"?
I know we need a strong and secure NATO to fold the Ukraine into, instead of the tattered one we had, but this is tough to watch.
They could have the m1s idling in the back charging cellphones and I'd be happy because one way or another, Ukraine's got some armor to deploy.not that the abrams isn't an awesome tank, but the US position was that it's so much more complicated than other tanks - operations, logistics, and maintenance - that it's difficult to deploy. and training and deployment certainly won't happen immediately.
but even if it's just to get germany off its ass with Leopard exports, that's 31 M1s well spent for democracy in Ukraine.
assuming the M1s do get deployed next year (what i read as far as how long training and logistics setup would take), i have no doubt they will be highly effective
The more recent versions of the m1 with the APU are actually quite fuel efficient when idling. Probably as efficient as the average generator for the same task.They could have the m1s idling in the back charging cellphones and I'd be happy because one way or another, Ukraine's got some armor to deploy.
Thats not the point, the point is the go-ahead for every other nation to flood Ukraine with Leopards…It unfortunately sounds like it's going to take months for those to arrive, but that may give Russia pause if it thinks it can launch a renewed assault in the spring. Russian tanks already have trouble cracking Ukranian defenses; they might not stand a chance against M1 Abrams tanks.
This 100%. Fuck Erdogan and Orban right in the ass with huge non lubricated objects specifically cause they’re both homophobic assholes. Take pictures.Had?
We are in tatters with Hungary and Turkey stopping us from actually doing what we want.
I honestly think NATO's politics are slowly showing it's problems and it's going to be replaced by a NATO 2.0 without Hungary and Turkey and instead adding Finland and Sweden and allowing Ukraine to join.
Yeah, that a great one. US Army to congress - and it can run on any grade of petrol, diesel, aviation fuel or kerosene.Yeah, the "jet fuel only" argument was a canard. From up here in the peanut gallery, I'm guessing one of the Pentagon's main concerns was the electronics and accompanying hardware in the tanks falling into Russian hands.
Its just politics for Erdogan...This 100%. Fuck Erdogan and Orban right in the ass with huge non lubricated objects specifically cause they’re both homophobic assholes.
I know it is, Paludan is a certified retard, a useful moron for Erdogan to manipulate and engineer. Fuck him.
Turbines can burn different fuels, but not on the fly, they have to have fuel nozzles changed and returned. It also has to be relatively highly refined fuel, your can't just dump bunker oil in them.They keep talking about maintenance of the turbine and that is only takes jet fuel. If my memory serves, it's like the opposite of the selling point for the turbine. Low maintenance, multi fuel capable. Probably spending all the time changing/ cleaning air filters.
No, we really need Turkey in NATO. Just look at a map. We'll have to put up with some BS posturing and BS demands for a bit. I think he’ll cave after some apologies are said b/4 the cameras and a few deals slide under the table.Had?
We are in tatters with Hungary and Turkey stopping us from actually doing what we want.
I honestly think NATO's politics are slowly showing it's problems and it's going to be replaced by a NATO 2.0 without Hungary and Turkey and instead adding Finland and Sweden and allowing Ukraine to join.
I hope that’s the case and that deals are being negotiated as we speak. That would cheer me up (lol, not that it’s about me).Now that Germany has relented Ukraine can likely lay its hands on hundreds of other tanks like Leopard 1A5 and Challenger 1s with minimal fuss.
You misunderstand. Paludan was influenced by a Swedish journalist with heavy Russian links;I know it is, Paludan is a certified retard, a useful moron for Erdogan to manipulate and engineer. Fuck him.
Wouldn't it be interesting if when WW3 breaks out that Germany would be part of "The Allies"?
Yeah, that a great one. US Army to congress - and it can run on any grade of petrol, diesel, aviation fuel or kerosene.
US Army to Ukraine - it needs special jet fuel.