Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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Uh the Israelis might have ok'ed Spike re-export?


Let's go! The truck with the side launch setup, very nice. Keepin my ears open for confirmation.

Nice long range, tandem charge, super accurate, sends intel back on the way to kill the bad guys; it's hard not to like Spike. One of the systems where you almost feel bad for the guy downrange. Almost.

Could there be an upside to Netanyahoo being back in the seat? I hope so, he does seem more frosty with Putin now.
 
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Racan

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Let's go! The truck with the side launch setup, very nice. Keepin my ears open for confirmation.

Nice long range, tandem charge, super accurate, sends intel back on the way to kill the bad guys; it's hard not to like Spike. One of the systems where you almost feel bad for the guy downrange. Almost.

Could there be an upside to Netanyahoo being back in the seat? I hope so, he does seem more frosty with Putin now.


And on this Ukr site it also says Spada, no mention of Spike.

 
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kage69

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Well I hope Spike happens for the sake the front liners fighting for Ukraine. It's a hell of a stick, probably the best at what it does.

I wonder if SAMP-T can handle Iranian ballistic missiles. I have no idea, know next to nothing about the platform.
 
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Racan

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Well I hope Spike happens for the sake the front liners fighting for Ukraine. It's a hell of a stick, probably the best at what it does.
Reportedly Ukraine received a new French ATGM which basically has the same capabilities as Spike, though the latter could have been available in far greater numbers.


I wonder if SAMP-T can handle Iranian ballistic missiles. I have no idea, know next to nothing about the platform.

The Aster 30 Block 1 missiles can intercept SRBMs and according to wiki, Italy has these.


 
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kage69

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Reportedly Ukraine received a new French ATGM which basically has the same capabilities as Spike, though the latter could have been available in far greater numbers.




The Aster 30 Block 1 missiles can intercept SRBMs and according to wiki, Italy has these.


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Glad to hear France supplying 5th gen systems, Macron didn't want it announced eh? Lots of similar bells and whistles and it's certainly a flexible and potent weapon, but Spike NLOS will reach out to 25km. Akeron LP is 5k short of that but still a fearsome, hungry looking ball of hate, and drone ready from the get go, of course. The MP is a better Javelin. Ukraine is lucky to have a shot at any of them, and they'll all make mincemeat of orcs no doubt. Ukraine has other options for AT weapons though. Options for SRBM protection? Not so much. Sketchy stuff intercepting those, I very much hope Ukraine has enough of what it takes, and in time.
 
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cytg111

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Beau details just how bad its going for russia, how bad its been and how bad it will continue to be. Is Russian troops really getting cut down to the tune of 5K men pr week? That is some crazy numbers. (And Russia would have lost over half a mil by end of year)
I must admit I had fully expected him to have dropped a tactical by now. Or gas. Damn

 

zinfamous

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The Russians are almost certainly in a real bad way in terms of munitions. China has to weigh the possible military collapse of a partner against what the west is going to do to them in retaliation.

In practical terms Chinese military aid to Russia will politically recast military aid to Ukraine and make it more attractive to Rs.


I'm wondering if Chinese supplied weapons will be just as shitty as Russian dogshit due to the same, well, total corruption at all levels and the fact that China hasn't ever really fought anyone, really.

One wonders if their entire military existence is just to shake their fists while they beg for concessions from the west.
 

K1052

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I'm wondering if Chinese supplied weapons will be just as shitty as Russian dogshit due to the same, well, total corruption at all levels and the fact that China hasn't ever really fought anyone, really.

One wonders if their entire military existence is just to shake their fists while they beg for concessions from the west.

As the Sovie....er...Russians have demonstrated there is something to be said for just trying to project power from the spec sheets of your weaponry and parading it around sometimes.
 
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Artorias

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We have plainly stated that we will attack Russian forces with our military if they use nukes.

In this hypothetical case what would stop Putin from continuing to use nukes within Ukraine?

Do you think the West would attack Russia territory itself? You don't think Putin would call the West's bluff?

If it even gets that far MAD has failed.
 

trenchfoot

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It's amazing how close Putin's speech patterns and gaslighting mimics much of the GQP's methods. If you read a transcript of the speech you would be hard pressed to know if it was MTG/DeSantis/Trump vs being from Putin.


Agreed. Both Putin and the Repub's agendas are based on lies and half-truths so their line of distractive and disingenuous propaganda reflects their similar core ideologies and their methods of acquiring, consolidating and permanently retaining control of their respective governments.

They are also both regressive in nature, both wanting to turn back the clock to a time when they both felt more powerful and more in control of their destinies. They both exploit the religious sector of their nations claiming that they and they alone represent the religious faithful of their nations of whom by "coincidence" are the most trusting and gullible toward authoritarian leaders in and out of their churches.

When the religious leaders of both nations conspire with their governments to achieve a common goal that dehumanizes and abandons those that are outside of their spheres of influence there can never be an equitable outcome whereby ALL of the peoples of their nation's interests are represented.
 

Zorba

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In this hypothetical case what would stop Putin from continuing to use nukes within Ukraine?

Do you think the West would attack Russia territory itself? You don't think Putin would call the West's bluff?

If it even gets that far MAD has failed.
I forgot who talked about it before one of the retired generals I believe. He said there would likely be an overwhelming conventual response, that would include taking out their entire surface fleet.

MAD still holds because Russia knows if we got involved, all they'd have left would be nukes and if they fling nukes at us or our troops it's all over.

The fact they haven't used nukes shows that our deterrent is working.
 
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