Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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cytg111

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Ukraine ponders renaming Russia to Moscow or "Federation of Moscow".


Lets do it.
 

Ajay

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So, as one poster here has been linking videos from Peter Zeihan. I decided to look into him a bit and watch more of his videos. While not a top shelf geopolitical strategist, he ranks well enough to receive invitations to present at the likes of the CIA and seems well connected.

Some of the information from his video includes these data points:

  • There are approximately 60k members of the UAF training abroad in other NATO countries. (I presume weapons systems training and advanced tactical traning in high maneuverability offensive strategies).
  • The heavy call out for high mobility armor is because the UAF intends to adopt the US strategy of punching through enemy lines, Blitzkrieg style, to take control of enemy supply lines and whatever is left of Russian CC&C. (They will need to quickly build out their SAM infrastructure at rear FOBs - being close to the Russian border).
  • The Ukrainians have been aggressively refurbishing captured Russian tanks and APCs to be used in their spring offensive.
  • The Russian army (not Wagner) have been intensly recruiting and may have 600-700k troops deployed in Ukraine in the May/June time period.
  • The Russian triage system is atrocious (unsurprisingly). There are likely far more soldiers listed as WIA who, in fact, died of their injuries before receiving proper medical care.
  • Given the large accumulation of Russian solders in Ukraine, kill ratios will need to exceed the current estimates of 2 or 3:1 (in favor of the UAF) to a ratio 2-3 times higher if the UAF wants to collapse the Russian army in Ukraine (and, in effect, that should put the entire Russian army into a state of unrecoverable disarray and end the war).
  • This spring offensive will likely begin in May once the terrain dries - dictated by the needs of tank movement. The warmer than normal winter temps will extend the mud season. (This will likely limit the dry season, unless the fall mud season is delayed by a drier fall than normal.)

My editorial comments are enclosed in brackets. This information is subject to verification by other sources.
 
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cytg111

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So, as one poster here has been linking videos from Peter Zeihan. I decided to look into him a bit and watch more of his videos. While not a top shelf geopolitical strategist, he ranks well enough to receive invitations to present at the likes of the CIA and seems well connected.

Some of the information from his video includes these data points:

  • There are approximately 60k members of the UAF training abroad in other NATO countries. (I presume weapons systems training and advanced tactical traning in high maneuverability offensive strategies).
  • The heavy call out for high mobility armor is because the UAF intends to adopt the US strategy of punching through enemy lines, Blitzkrieg style, to take control of enemy supply lines and whatever is left of Russian CC&C. (They will need to quickly build out their SAM infrastructure at rear FOBs - being close to the Russian border).
  • The Ukrainians have been aggressively refurbishing captured Russian tanks and APCs to be used in their spring offensive.
  • The Russian army (not Wagner) have been intensly recruiting and may have 600-700k troops deployed in Ukraine in the May/June time period.
  • The Russian triage system is atrocious (unsurprisingly). There are likely far more soldiers listed as WIA who, in fact, died of their injuries before receiving proper medical care.
  • Given the large accumulation of Russian solders in Ukraine, kill ratios will need to exceed the current estimates of 2 or 3:1 (in favor of the UAF) to a ratio 2-3 times higher if the UAF wants to collapse the Russian army in Ukraine (and, in effect, that should put the entire Russian army into a state of unrecoverable disarray and end the war).
  • This spring offensive will likely begin in May once the terrain dries - dictated by the needs of tank movement. The warmer than normal winter temps will extend the mud season. (This will likely limit the dry season, unless the fall mud season is delayed by a drier fall than normal.)

My editorial comments are enclosed in brackets. This information is subject to verification by other sources.

On Peter


"He was an analyst and later vice president for Austin-based geopolitical intelligence firm Stratfor (founded 1996), where he spent 12 years until 2008."

Auther of some books

Accidental Superpower
"The bulk of “The Accidental Superpower” peers into the future as Mr. Zeihan, a former analyst at the geopolitical security firm Stratfor, tries to imagine where the world, and particularly America, is headed. Conjecture is de rigueur in the geopolitics genre—sometimes to its peril."

The Absent Superpower
"Zeihan’s worldview marries the realities of geography and populations to a deep understanding of how global politics impact markets and economic trends, helping industry leaders navigate today’s complex mix of geopolitical risks and opportunities. With a keen eye toward what will drive tomorrow’s headlines, his irreverent approach transforms topics that are normally dense and heavy into accessible, relevant takeaways for audiences of all types."

Disunited Nations
"Germany will decline as the most powerful country in Europe, with France taking its place. Every country should prepare for the collapse of China, not the rise of North Korea. We are already seeing, as he predicts, a shift in outlook on the Middle East: it is no longer Iran that is the region's most dangerous threat, but Saudi Arabia."

And bestseller: The End of the World Is Just the Beginning
This book's analysis covers six different economic sectors: Agriculture Energy Finance Manufacturing Materials Transport
Within each of the above sectors, the author investigates the prospects for a number of developed nations. Very often there are some relations or correlations between the prospects of a country across the six sectors. If a country is anticipated to do well in one sector, it is often likely to do well in several other sectors as well.
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So this dude has spend half a life Nostra Predicting the future right, and we all know how weather forecasts go BUT he has gotten a decent amount right. Enough to get contracted by the IC as mentioned by Ajay. History is full of those inflection points, and if one goes to the right instead of left, a whole lot of your predictions depending on this end up wrong. That just mean that *that* particular inflection point went our way. Might not have.
 
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Given MBR's lawlessness; thin skin and general behavior up to this point; i could in fact see this being true. Really if we get off of oil we should drop our association with SA like a rock.

Disunited Nations
"Germany will decline as the most powerful country in Europe, with France taking its place. Every country should prepare for the collapse of China, not the rise of North Korea. We are already seeing, as he predicts, a shift in outlook on the Middle East: it is no longer Iran that is the region's most dangerous threat, but Saudi Arabia."
 
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So, as one poster here has been linking videos from Peter Zeihan. I decided to look into him a bit and watch more of his videos. While not a top shelf geopolitical strategist, he ranks well enough to receive invitations to present at the likes of the CIA and seems well connected.

Some of the information from his video includes these data points:

  • There are approximately 60k members of the UAF training abroad in other NATO countries. (I presume weapons systems training and advanced tactical traning in high maneuverability offensive strategies).
  • The heavy call out for high mobility armor is because the UAF intends to adopt the US strategy of punching through enemy lines, Blitzkrieg style, to take control of enemy supply lines and whatever is left of Russian CC&C. (They will need to quickly build out their SAM infrastructure at rear FOBs - being close to the Russian border).
  • The Ukrainians have been aggressively refurbishing captured Russian tanks and APCs to be used in their spring offensive.
  • The Russian army (not Wagner) have been intensly recruiting and may have 600-700k troops deployed in Ukraine in the May/June time period.
  • The Russian triage system is atrocious (unsurprisingly). There are likely far more soldiers listed as WIA who, in fact, died of their injuries before receiving proper medical care.
  • Given the large accumulation of Russian solders in Ukraine, kill ratios will need to exceed the current estimates of 2 or 3:1 (in favor of the UAF) to a ratio 2-3 times higher if the UAF wants to collapse the Russian army in Ukraine (and, in effect, that should put the entire Russian army into a state of unrecoverable disarray and end the war).
  • This spring offensive will likely begin in May once the terrain dries - dictated by the needs of tank movement. The warmer than normal winter temps will extend the mud season. (This will likely limit the dry season, unless the fall mud season is delayed by a drier fall than normal.)

My editorial comments are enclosed in brackets. This information is subject to verification by other sources.
So this dude has spend half a life Nostra Predicting the future right, and we all know how weather forecasts go BUT he has gotten a decent amount right. Enough to get contracted by the IC as mentioned by Ajay. History is full of those inflection points, and if one goes to the right instead of left, a whole lot of your predictions depending on this end up wrong. That just mean that *that* particular inflection point went our way. Might not have.

I have seen enough of Peter Zeihan's videos to know he can and will repeat bold face falsehoods.


Peter turns out tons of videos predicting everything, and it is difficult to search through them all. But Peter made extreme predictions about the complete break down of Chinese civil society when Zero Covid was lifted due to mass covid spread. To the point where foreigners would not be able to get flights out of the country. In hindsight manufacturing chaos yes, breakdown of civil society no.


A lot of Peter's videos make you feel good. But he is just Fox News, don't trust the mother fucker. He exaggerates everything.
 
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So, as one poster here has been linking videos from Peter Zeihan. I decided to look into him a bit and watch more of his videos. While not a top shelf geopolitical strategist, he ranks well enough to receive invitations to present at the likes of the CIA and seems well connected.

Lot of his stuff isn't guessing, its calculations of moves and countermoves.

Could something different happen? Sure but over a long time the averages win out unless there's a political upheaval sorta like the collapse of the USSR which many, including the west didn't see coming!

Times are changing.

This is a great time for a country like India to find allies against China. Won't be easy but China is a bigger threat than Pakistan will ever be.

And the US really doesn't want to allow China to ascend to superpower status with just a walk in the Park. That threatens a lot of countries.

Also is India really that important to Russia anymore? I would say no as Russia is making headways with China, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
 

cytg111

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I have seen enough of Peter Zeihan's videos to know he can and will repeat bold face falsehoods.


Peter turns out tons of videos predicting everything, and it is difficult to search through them all. But Peter made extreme predictions about the complete break down of Chinese civil society when Zero Covid was lifted due to mass covid spread. To the point where foreigners would not be able to get flights out of the country. In hindsight manufacturing chaos yes, breakdown of civil society no.


A lot of Peter's videos make you feel good. But he is just Fox News, don't trust the mother fucker. He exaggerates everything.

Yup, well, I see it a bit different (maybe I am naive), I view his predictions as cautionary tales from the future, like, suppose this 20% comes to fruition, then *this* other thing is suddenly possible too. Take my example with inflection points in history, navigating the possible timestreams seems like a worth while effort, even if some of them are unlikely to happen, we will still want to further minimize their odds of occurring.
Is Peter is an asshat that enjoys the spotlight and says what must to maximize that? I really cant tell.
 
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cytg111

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Also is India really that important to Russia anymore? I would say no as Russia is making headways with China, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
May be making progress, but making progress as a nobody, after this is done and over, Russia is a nobody.
 
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K1052

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Not that you'd expect any different.. they got rich off nazi massacres of the jews, now they'll get rich off Russian massacres of the ukrainians!

I've been reading a bit about what's going on with the Swiss and it's basically a death sentence for their arms export business and a diplomatic fiasco since all the countries around them are defacto protection that they claim have no responsibility to under any circumstances. No more sales, no more co-development, existing companies will shutter/bolt or be relocated by their corporate parents (starting with Rheinmetall stripping Oerlikon Contraves).
 

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GENEVA —
Swiss neutrality is more important than ever, President Alain Berset said in an interview published Sunday, defending the controversial ban on transferring Swiss-made arms to Ukraine.
"Swiss weapons must not be used in wars," he told the NZZ am Sonntag weekly.

 

gorobei

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Zeihan is a mixed bag.

when it comes to his specialty (geography/populations and geopolitical history) he tends to be overly confidant in his predictions. assuming he is tracking the published numbers consistently you can put some credence that he may be accurately seeing a trend line, but his extrapolations tend to be a little out there and ignore mitigating factors. when he does economic predictions it gets hyperbolic which helps sucker in some of the business types looking for the next financial crisis and safeport to store their money.

but while his economic stuff should be taken with some salt, when he talks about military matters there is some actual knowledge to be gleaned.

he is part of the thinktank crowd, so he has access to former generals and analysts at places like the uk's RUSI. when he doesnt know about a particular subject, he admits to asking actual experts and then relays/repeats what they know. usually there will be a tidbit of info that the average person following regular news reporting wont normally come across.

assuming it is a short video not on economic future, i am fine spending a few minutes to hear his reasoning.
 

kage69

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Speaking of RUSI; they've done some analysis on recovered Russian weapon remains. Interesting stuff

Sources of components found in Russian weapons:


Needs to be a gigantic reckoning here at home in the US. I knew they relied on our suppliers but I didn't think it was that big a slice of the pie. We cannot expect others to reign in their business with Russia if we can't as well. That number needs to be zero, asap.
 
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Ajay

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I have seen enough of Peter Zeihan's videos to know he can and will repeat bold face falsehoods.


Peter turns out tons of videos predicting everything, and it is difficult to search through them all. But Peter made extreme predictions about the complete break down of Chinese civil society when Zero Covid was lifted due to mass covid spread. To the point where foreigners would not be able to get flights out of the country. In hindsight manufacturing chaos yes, breakdown of civil society no.


A lot of Peter's videos make you feel good. But he is just Fox News, don't trust the mother fucker. He exaggerates everything.
Hmm, that bad?? He was right about the breakdown in China - it just didn't last (dear sir, that boot on my neck hurts). If his facts on Ukraine are bogus, that would bother me. As far as his 'chicken little' stance WRT to coming economic conditions in various parts of the world - I think he is exaggerating impact of the threats to the economic world order. That said, many of the threats he refers to are actually real; it's really a matter of how the major powers react to these threats that will determine actual outcomes. His estimates of how rapidly the US could re-industrialize should China falter have to be off by a lot. We lack the necessary number of manufacturing and process engineers, for example, to build out plants and equipment. We outsourced those specialties to China - because Chinese engineers were cheap, capable and worked for the manufacturing plants that US companies were contracting. An economic collapse of China would put the world into recession, or worse - so the west will make appropriate accommodations. Encouraging re-shoring as well as transition of manufacturing to less troublesome countries are some steps already in progress.

/steps off soapbox
 
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Indus

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Hmm, that bad?? He was right about the breakdown in China - it just didn't last (dear sir, that boot on my neck hurts). If his facts on Ukraine are bogus, that would bother me. As far as his 'chicken little' stance WRT to coming economic conditions in various parts of the world - I think he is exaggerating impact of the threats to the economic world order. That said, many of the threats he refers to are actually real; it's really a matter of how the major powers react to these threats that will determine actual outcomes. His estimates of how rapidly the US could re-industrialize should China falter have to be off by a lot. We lack the necessary number of manufacturing and process engineers, for example, to build out plants and equipment. We outsourced those specialties to China - because Chinese engineers were cheap, capable and worked for the manufacturing plants that US companies were contracting. An economic collapse of China would put the world into recession, or worse - so the west will make appropriate accommodations. Encouraging re-shoring as well as transition of manufacturing to less troublesome countries are some steps already in progress.

/steps off soapbox

Well the price inflation of 2020 due to supply chain fuckups has taught us that we can't have a supply chain from China.

It's been 3 years already.

You'd think we'd have moved manufacturing by now, but lots of companies just see $$$'s with China like Tesla, Apple instead of real threat.

They're going to have a rude awakening soon as Taiwan erupts.
 

Indus

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They can have "neutrality" or an arms export business, not both.

I wanted a Rolex Daytona but my dad talked me out of it!

He said its like getting a Ferrari. Expensive to buy, and even more expensive to maintain and insure. The cost doesn't stop at the sticker price and it's very attractive to steal.

That was before I found out Switzerland has always found ways to profit off of human suffering.. from the Nazi's hiding their precious stolen goods to now the Russians hiding their precious stolen goods, all hiding behind neutrality!

Fuck em. No Swiss Army Knives, No Swiss weapons, no switch watches and no swiss chocolates for me!
 
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