Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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fskimospy

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Cut the bridges and strangle it. Then no amount of preparation will matter. Russia will lose Crimea the moment Ukraine reaches and holds the Azov coast. It might take time, but the outcome would be guaranteed.
I agree, my (extremely amateur) guess is they are going to try to retake the coast and cut off Crimea.

It would be very satisfying from a moral perspective to see Russia lose Crimea as a consequence of trying to take all of Ukraine. The epitome of getting what you ask for.
 

Indus

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To add to what Brovane said, I doubt China would get involved if the US and Russia came to blows. China knows Russia's military is crumbling even against a Ukraninan military that only has indirect support from the US and its allies. China would quickly find itself fighting the US without help, as Russia would be wiped out in short order; and even with sheer numbers in its favor, China's military might not stack up well against the combined forces of the US and all its supporters. That and China would immediately torch economic ties it sorely needs.

Yep News Flash guys!

China which makes most of its money from the trade with EU and USA is so keen to help Russkies out that it will willing end all trade with the US and EU with high profit margins and willingly do very low profit margin sales to Russia and Africa!

Yep totally in line with common sense and the Russo-Chinese World Domination Plan or something along those lines according to the Russkie bot lol!
 
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Young Grasshopper

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Yep News Flash guys!

China which makes most of its money from the trade with EU and USA is so keen to help Russkies out that it will willing end all trade with the US and EU with high profit margins and willingly do very low profit margin sales to Russia and Africa!

Yep totally in line with common sense and the Russo-Chinese World Domination Plan or something along those lines according to the Russkie bot lol!

Let me guess, you’re one of the many who thought sanctions were going so sink the Russian economy right? That the Russian economy would collapse once their biggest customer(EU) stopped buying oil/gas from them?



They look, on the face of it, like mistakes. This week, number crunchers at the International Monetary Fund released forecasts saying that over the coming year, Russia’s economy will grow, while Britain’s will contract. And that Russia will actually grow faster than Germany, Europe’s economic powerhouse.

China will help Russia with this war if needed and our government isn’t going to do shit about it, much like they didn’t do shit about letting a Russian fighter jet take a piss on one of its drones. In fact, if China does get involved the opposite will happen and you will likely see NATO wave the white flag because they aren’t going to go into WW3 over a non NATO member.


Secondly, due to our love for capitalism, China manufactures everything in this country so good luck trying to start a trade war with them.


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Amused

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Let me guess, you’re one of the many who thought sanctions were going so sink the Russian economy right? That the Russian economy would collapse once their biggest customer(EU) stopped buying oil/gas from them?





China will help Russia with this war if needed and our government isn’t going to do shit about it, much like they didn’t do shit about letting a Russian fighter jet take a piss on one of its drones. In fact, if China does get involved the opposite will happen and you will likely see NATO wave the white flag because they aren’t going to go into WW3 over a non NATO member.


Secondly, due to our love for capitalism, China manufactures everything in this country so good luck trying to start a trade war with them.


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Yeah, the source for Russian economic data is... wait for it... Russia!

Why are righties so fucking gullible?

 
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fskimospy

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Let me guess, you’re one of the many who thought sanctions were going so sink the Russian economy right? That the Russian economy would collapse once their biggest customer(EU) stopped buying oil/gas from them?





China will help Russia with this war if needed and our government isn’t going to do shit about it, much like they didn’t do shit about letting a Russian fighter jet take a piss on one of its drones. In fact, if China does get involved the opposite will happen and you will likely see NATO wave the white flag because they aren’t going to go into WW3 over a non NATO member.


Secondly, due to our love for capitalism, China manufactures everything in this country so good luck trying to start a trade war with them.


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So any thoughts about how Russia lied about the drone downing?

I’m mostly interested to learn if you think they were lying and if you do think they were lying how that changes your view of them.
 
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fskimospy

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Yeah, the source for Russian economic data is... wait for it... Russia!

Why are righties to fucking gullible?

I’m not even sure if he’s a rightie, he seems like a tankie.

I honestly hope he’s being paid but I suspect he isn’t. I think he’s probably just some useful idiot who is emotionally involved with hating the US.
 
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IronWing

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I’m not even sure if he’s a rightie, he seems like a tankie.

I honestly hope he’s being paid but I suspect he isn’t. I think he’s probably just some useful idiot who is emotionally involved with hating the US.
I stand by my theory that he works for Pooh Bear.
 

you2

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You're not doing a very good job here. I sincerely hope you're not getting paid for this.
Sadly he probably is; remember that fake 'spy' captured in Russian where they put on the note verbatim what was written - i.e, https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-agents-the-sims-video-game-sting-operation-2022-4 (this one doesn't have the notes but it does have 'sim' game instead of sim 'cards' )
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I mean you don't have to be bright to get paid by the Russians for trolling.
 

Jaskalas

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Russian TV wants to form actual terrorist cells to strike civilians and cities throughout NATO.
You might think it a joke... unless you realize they have some useful idiots they can stir up, and pay, to achieve some results while hiding behind the curtain with plausible deniability. If Russia becomes the driving force behind MAGA, as Trump would surely love to do for them...

 

trenchfoot

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You're not doing a very good job here. I sincerely hope you're not getting paid for this.


Reading the hopper's posts is a lot like going over to FOX and trying to find some factual news and commentary. Or better yet, trying to get Donny Trump to swear under oath that he didn't do all of those things he got impeached for.

Interesting though is how similar Putin runs his country and how the Republicans runs their party. Putin threatens his people with fear and death to keep them in line and the Republicans threaten their people with being humiliated and ultimately excommunicated from the party like Liz Cheney in order to keep party members in fear of being ostracized and alienated. You just know a political party or a dictator is in constant peril when they have to resort to violence and threats to remain in power.
 
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Brovane

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DisarmedDespot

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Trying to whatabout with Afghanistan really sells the problem, huh? Both the US and soviet invasions were standing militaries struggling to put down an insurgency, which standing militaries have struggled to do for essentially all time. Ukraine isn't an insurgency. Its government is intact. Its military is still in control and ordering operational units. Hell, its air force is still flying sorties!

The comparison to Desert Storm is amazing, but this is even worse. This is like if America tried to invade Mexico, got stalled by the Mexican army, lost a Nimitz and had to start pulling M60s out of the scrap heap and into frontline service. Even if Russia overran Ukraine tomorrow, it's still a strategic loss for Russia. Their army is a joke, no one's going to take them seriously again for decades, if they ever manage to rebuild their losses. They're not the second-best army in the world. Hell, if Wagner's claims are halfway true, the Russian army isn't even the second-best army in Ukraine!
 

Pens1566

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I hope we do see some Chinese material used in the field in Ukraine. It'll give us some real world intel on how well it performs. I'm guessing it'll be about the same efficiency as native Russian stuff. Underwhelming and well below claims.
 
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Kaido

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Indus

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Pretty sure the US military would have changed Hard Drives to SSD's around 2008-2010 or so if not later. If they put a charge through that, it should realistically render it unreadable, compared to a normal HDD.

The bigger concern would be optics, antennas, frequencies and probably the missiles on it!

Also black sea depth is max 7400 feet.

Lets assume the drone crashed in half that.. even at 3300feet.. the PSI at that depth would be 1455.9 psi. The longer they take to find it, the more it corrodes.

 
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shortylickens

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Umm, no not even fucking close. I left in 2006 and believe me we were sucking ass and NOBODY could make anything work. The idea we would have even considered SSD's in 2008 is a joke.
 
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