Stock market finally waking up to the 800lb gorilla today, and it doesn't start with an I.
Last I checked, Ukraine is not a NATO member and Russia is only planning an invasion of Ukraine. We don't need to mobilize and maintain a 1:1 parity with Russian forces that are planning an invasion of a country not under the NATO umbrella.From what I have gathered, NATO is vastly out numbered by Russia in the region. By no less than 10 to 1.
Unless we mobilize and deploy more forces.
If we did fight Russia, which we won't, we also wouldn't need a 1:1 parity or anything particularly close to it to obliterate them. Russia's armed forces are a lot better than they were but they are still very far behind the US.Last I checked, Ukraine is not a NATO member and Russia is only planning an invasion of Ukraine. We don't need to mobilize and maintain a 1:1 parity with Russian forces that are planning an invasion of a country not under the NATO umbrella.
Last I checked, Ukraine is not a NATO member and Russia is only planning an invasion of Ukraine. We don't need to mobilize and maintain a 1:1 parity with Russian forces that are planning an invasion of a country not under the NATO umbrella.
I don't understands China's end game here. They should be shutting this down, not encouraging it. Showing support for an international pariah is just going to spook western firms from manufacturing in that country. I hope, finally, we see some sanity and western companies start moving back home. Worst thing the world did was to outsource to China.
what do you want to see happen?I am sure China is giddy at the thought of an American retreat from the world stage, free for them and despots like Russia to kill and enslave whomever they so choose. Taiwan had best prepare to be next.
This is the world that you want?
China only benefits from spat between the West and Russia. If Europe stops buying Russian oil and gas, that's more for China to buy at a lower price. They gain competitiveness at the expense of the Europeans. And it makes China invulnerable to US naval blockade for its energy needs if a confrontation breaks out over Taiwan. If you look at WW2, both the invasion of the USSR and Pearl Harbor were largely driven by Germany and Japan's insecurity over oil supplies. Here, the West's spat with Russia is delivering China a secure over-land supply of natural resources on a silver platter. Why wouldn't they take it? The real question is why is the West working so hard to bring Russia and China together, contrary to common sense? Just to avoid saying the obvious out loud, which is NATO will not expand to the Ukraine?They are giving China two things that Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan had to go to war to unsuccessfully try to accomplish. Over a promise to not do something they aren't going to do anyway. It's sheer idiocy. There really isn't a clown bus big enough for Biden's foreign policy team. And they started out so well by actually getting out of Afghanistan. Not sure if it's different people, or a broken clock being right twice a day.I don't understands China's end game here. They should be shutting this down, not encouraging it. Showing support for an international pariah is just going to spook western firms from manufacturing in that country. I hope, finally, we see some sanity and western companies start moving back home. Worst thing the world did was to outsource to China.
All we can do is impose sanctions.what do you want to see happen?
Riddle me this. If America is a net exporter of oil why in the world is Europe not buying from America? The most idiotic thing European nations continue to do depend on Russian oil.
I understand the costs are higher, but surely a unilateral treaty would be a boon for domestic, and NATO security.
I am sure China is giddy at the thought of an American retreat from the world stage, free for them and despots like Russia to kill and enslave whomever they so choose. Taiwan had best prepare to be next.
This is the world that you want?
You answered your own question.Riddle me this. If America is a net exporter of oil why in the world is Europe not buying from America? The most idiotic thing European nations continue to do depend on Russian oil.
I understand the costs are higher, but surely a unilateral treaty would be a boon for domestic, and NATO security.
They are enjoying themselves, actually helping that country, and not buying into the hysteria. If you haven't been to the Ukraine, I highly recommend. Especially now that everything is half off on the invasion hype. Kiev is a major European capital city but for quarter the price of Paris or London. And you get to see a historical moment and enjoy the atmosphere, even if it's a touch cheesy and a giant nothing-burger in the end, still pretty adorable to see them all patriotic and stuff.Those f-ing pig headed Americans currently living in Ukraine, that refuse to get the hell out of Ukraine NOW, had better not expect Joe Biden to send in the troops to bail them out. Just as Biden has said and made quite clear, GET THE HELL OUT OF UKRAINE... NOW!!!
And notice, republicans in congress are already putting the blame on Biden for what those pig headed Americans are refusing to do. Typical morons.
Yea its 50/50 now I reckon… not that I have military insight or anything… But I do think I understand Putins character a little bit. He could take it to the absolute brinck where everyone thinks he is gonna do it including his own generals… just to pull em back at the last millisecond. He thrives on that chaos, being an unpredictable madman superpower… its in that atmosphere he outplays everyone else. Thats the only reason I still see a way out in all this.If it is going to happen it will start in the next two weeks I believe. Russia has deployed roughly 60% of their ground and air combat power and simply cannot sustain that for a long period of time. The same with naval forces in the black Sea. The US expects by the 16th and that is a reasonable supposition.
Based on analysis from independent military observers, barring major concessions (at a minimum the Minsk accords) Russia cannot afford to back down. But all 3 sides (Ukraine, separatists and Russia) have violated the accords and any solution is very unlikely at this point.
If the US is truly becoming energy indepednent (up for debate), then it should be exiting the world stage. That's unfortunately going to involve letting places like Taiwan go. I think the US is already preparing for this: Biden is putting $52B towards building the largest chip fab in the world right here in the US (in Ohio to be more specific).
A future of self-sufficiency might actually be better for the US and one that avoids internal collapse.
And when the rest of the planet unites, one way or the other, under ccp or another regime, 380 million fat americans boxed in by 7 billion people of the fourth reich.
Thats a great idea.
one way or the other. I did not say it would be willingly.And I thought we're having serious discussions here. Humans are much too selfish and quarrelsome to unite like that. Especially China is much more interested in Africa and its resources and as a market for Chinese goods.
To me it looks like Russia will either start the invasion next week or not at all. They probably do Ukraine the same thing as they did to us (Finland) in WW2 - say that Ukrainians started artillery fire or something like that.
One never knows about Russia. I doubt that they ever start a real conflict with NATO country but since Finland for example isn't a NATO country who knows what country they start to bully next. That being said, I doubt they'd try invading EU country... but if small scale world war start, I have no doubt that we are first in line. Because they want to secure sea passage to Saint Petersburg or something.
Putin won't fight NATO because he likes lopsided advantages which would all instantly disappear if he attacked say the Baltic nations in the alliance. Anything that could draw the US and Europe into the field with advanced weapons is real real bad for him and the US (for better or worse) has had lots of practice in recent decades.