Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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UNCjigga

Lifer
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Is that Putin's method ?
Roasting people alive for jeopardising his security ?
Eat a bag of d.

I was referring to the press—both mainstream media and right wing media and all their talking heads. Putin can eat a bag of d for all I care (dicks or dioxins—either one.)
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
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Does it really matter at this point since Russia has clearly made themselves an enemy of the whole free world. Who are we trying to keep in line with us who can see that as the only answer for this event to end.

It does matter, because if Putin “feels” like a US sanctioned attack on his regime is imminent, he’s more likely to preemptively strike. God knows his intelligence apparatus is shit now so his feels is all he has left to go on. Remember those who said that something changed in Putin after seeing Gaddafi dragged to his death in the street?

 

Number1

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Understood, but that's not how international diplomacy works.
And that's the problem. We should have communicated very clearly what would happen if he invaded. We were asleep at the wheel id say. The calls for his assasination are going to be used against us for sure but at this time, who cares?
 

pmv

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Does it really matter at this point since Russia has clearly made themselves an enemy of the whole free world. Who are we trying to keep in line with us who can see that as the only answer for this event to end.

I would have said the point was the effect it could have on Putin himself. If he thinks this is now about "regime change" he's much more likely to do something catastrophically horrible.

I was simultaneously a bit shocked that Biden vocalised that thought, while also realising it was a thought I'd been having myself. I'm not President, though.
 
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Number1

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Can the UA send a few missiles or saboteurs to Moscow? Could they have prepositionned weapons that could be activated in case of chemical or nuclear attack?
 

K1052

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Lol all the handwringing over that last line. Lindsay Grahm is all over Fox sayin Putin should be assassinated and Trump said he'd threaten to nuke him.

Is Putin paranoid? Yes. Will anything short of a Thanos-like existence snap disappearing the United States and all those who oppose him in Europe moderate that? Nope. So who cares. Too many words spilt over the feels of a murderous dictator who is never likely to engage in any sort of lasting peace agreement that he will not break.
 

kage69

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Lol all the handwringing over that last line. Lindsay Grahm is all over Fox sayin Putin should be assassinated and Trump said he'd threaten to nuke him.

Is Putin paranoid? Yes. Will anything short of a Thanos-like existence snap disappearing the United States and all those who oppose him in Europe moderate that? Nope. So who cares. Too many words spilt over the feels of a murderous dictator who is never likely to engage in any sort of lasting peace agreement that he will not break.

I would have preferred he use different words, even with his intentional lack of specificity there.

But yes, let's not get carried away. This feels like President Biden speaking from the hip like he was used to doing as a Senator. I can forgive him that because he isn't wrong. The truth hurts. But by all means, people should lose their shit if Joe Biden invades another country and gives orders to shell women's hospitals and evac corridors. That's alarming behavior for a world leader, so let's keep some perspective here please.
 

Captante

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I would have preferred he use different words, even with his intentional lack of specificity there.

But yes, let's not get carried away. This feels like President Biden speaking from the hip like he was used to doing as a Senator. I can forgive him that because he isn't wrong. The truth hurts. But by all means, people should lose their shit Joe Biden invades another country and gives orders to shell women's hospitals and evac corridors. Let's keep some perspective here.


Biden has done a very good job so far but he's walking a tight-rope make no mistake. Thing is pretty much everything he has warned us about (courtesy of US Intelligence) so far in Ukraine has happened exactly the way he said it would.

Fortunately with the exception of the Russians being competent!

If we do end up directly involved in this war it won't be because of our president making the first move. Putin started it.
 

Thump553

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Since Russia has lost seven generals in combat during one month of this war, I got curious and looked up US's track record. The last US general killed in combat was in 2014 and we have lost six total since the end of the Vietnam War (approximately 48 years).

 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Understood, but that's not how international diplomacy works.
I mean, does it make any functional difference at this point whether Biden says that Putin should be removed? We don't have the functional ability to do it, anyone that does have the ability to do it wouldn't be affected by Biden's statement, and insofar as I can discern, everyone else that matters on the international stage won't change their mind based on his statement. So, does it matter?
 

fskimospy

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I mean, does it make any functional difference at this point whether Biden says that Putin should be removed? We don't have the functional ability to do it, anyone that does have the ability to do it wouldn't be affected by Biden's statement, and insofar as I can discern, everyone else that matters on the international stage won't change their mind based on his statement. So, does it matter?
I think it does, and Biden shouldn’t have said it. The problem here is that the people hyperventilating about it are doing so in transparently bad faith.
 
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I mean, does it make any functional difference at this point whether Biden says that Putin should be removed? We don't have the functional ability to do it, anyone that does have the ability to do it wouldn't be affected by Biden's statement, and insofar as I can discern, everyone else that matters on the international stage won't change their mind based on his statement. So, does it matter?
Are you sure?


'You, the Russian people, are not our enemy,' President Joe Biden says while also asking Russians to oppose Putin's invasion of Ukraine

Business Insider|3 hours ago
"I refuse to believe that you welcome the killing of innocent children and grandparents," Biden said of the Russian people during a speech in Warsaw.



If he was talking to the Russian people (in hopes they might hear him somehow), perhaps he was encouraging them to do something.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Are you sure?


'You, the Russian people, are not our enemy,' President Joe Biden says while also asking Russians to oppose Putin's invasion of Ukraine

Business Insider|3 hours ago
"I refuse to believe that you welcome the killing of innocent children and grandparents," Biden said of the Russian people during a speech in Warsaw.



If he was talking to the Russian people (in hopes they might hear him somehow), perhaps he was encouraging them to do something.
.. and? Anyone in Russia who'd have the ability to do anything wouldn't need Biden's encouragement to do so. If Putin's gonna get all hot under the collar over that statement, then it's just the excuse to do what he wanted to do all along, and if it wasn't that excuse, it'd be some other.

Not really seeing how anything Biden says at this point affects the price of tea in Moscow.
 

zinfamous

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I don't see Joe calling for his death, but rather for someone there to remove him from Office and submit him for prosecution.

yes, but sister Lindsay went with assassination. Russian prop uses brother Tucker as "the real eastern Christian in the US, that wants to see Christian Rus life survive to purge the devil", and the the evil west (US government) as those that need to be liquidated for Rus to establish their empire.

This is Putin's brain cult.

We have members here that support this vision of the world.
 
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