Unlike Russia I'm pretty sure, or at least hope, that Ukraine know they would quickly loose Western support if they targeted civilian targets.
Unlike Russia I'm pretty sure, or at least hope, that Ukraine know they would quickly loose Western support if they targeted civilian targets.If so not easily it but it is kind of besides the point since they can already strike Russian cities if they wanted to. There isn't any military need for them to waste limited advanced weapons on civilians and risk their arms supply to boot.
If they got ATACMS they'd clearly only use it in occupied territory against high value targets.
Unlike Russia I'm pretty sure, or at least hope, that Ukraine know they would quickly loose Western support if they targeted civilian targets.
Also, we don't really know how the Russian population see the war, but if they start targeting Russian civilians, then Putin might get even more support and conscripts for the war.As I said they already have the means but haven't done it for this reason, that it is a pointless waste of resources, and they don't want to conduct the war like the Russians do. Europe sees the barbarians at the gate and it is in Ukraine's interest to maintain that (accurate) perception.
Yes.Has the momentum of the war swung back to the Russian side?
Yes. Key word slowly.Seems like they are slowly gaining ground over the Ukrainians and taking over the eastern regions.
No.Ukraine seem to be losing many soldiers and cannot hold the Russians back.
This is not true.Russian moral is rock bottom. Russia has no senior officers left, they are all dead - at least from the Western District command.
Yes.All this from Ukraine's tactics of flexible defense. Push when they can hurt the Russians badly. Otherwise pull back slowly and wear them down.
A few hundred NATO cannons does not mean Ukraine has gained an advantage against a few thousand Russian cannons.More and more NATO weapons are flooding the Ukrainian battle space, and they are innovative in using cheap Chinese Alibaba drones to bypass Russian air defense to attack targets at will far behind enemy lines.
But Russia does have momentum, we see them taking a little nibble every day.So Russia has no momentum. They have very little left of whatever they had in getting what they got in Donbas. They have so little operational forces left that they are stripping training personnel and equipment from Russia and sending it to the front lines. Which means the next lot of Russian soldiers will be poorly trained, if at all, before going to the front lines.
Optimistic, but plausible. I certainly hope so.Its a stalemate, but leaning towards Ukraine.
Seems unlikely. Belarus government has avoided putting its own people into Ukraine, and pushing the matter is a bad roll of the dice for Russia.For Russia to gain the momentum they either have to drag Belarus into the war
This does nothing for Russia, which is why we are not seeing it.or mobilise Russia for war
So... if economics force Western countries to do something more drastic than current, do they:
(i) Tell Russia they have 3 days to get their troops out of Ukraine, or have them be destroyed in place by airstrikes.
Ukraine will never agree.(ii) (Privately) tell Ukraine to accept a settlement as they will stop providing arms in X days.
Yes, nothing at all.(iii) Something else?
In an unusual emergency meeting with 100,000 government officials, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang last week called China’s economic situation “grim” and said officials at all levels should prioritize growth. “There is no time to lose,” he noted. China’s government released the 33-point stimulus plan after the meeting.
India is in much the same position.“Whenever you have a 33-point plan, it means you don’t have a plan,” says Derek Scissors, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. “They are just throwing a bunch of stuff against the wall and hoping something works.”
They should rename that system the boomerang.
What is your hot take?Lol at the people here moralizing about Russian actions. It's just hilarious.
Hot take is whatever the US will do if Russia has bases in Mexico and Canada. what do you think we will do, if that happensWhat is your hot take?
Why would Mexico or Canada ever want Russian bases on its soil?Hot take is whatever the US will do if Russia has bases in Mexico and Canada. what do you think we will do, if that happens
Why would Mexico or Canada ever want Russian bases on its soil?
Were you aware there was a Chinese military units in Canada until quite recently? That they had a joint command?
So, how was Cuba resolved?Did you forget cuba or your brain just kinda froze?
I do not recall the US invading Cuba to end the missile crisis?I mean how is it that we can have one rule but rest of the world cannot have the same rule.
Is this the much vaunted 'rules based' order?
So, how was Cuba resolved?
A diplomatic deal with the USSR.
How is that even remotely the same? Why would you equate a diplomatic solution with war?
I do not recall the US invading Cuba to end the missile crisis?
Your claim that:
diplomacy = war is a false equivalence fallacy.
So, how was Cuba resolved?
A diplomatic deal with the USSR.
How is that even remotely the same? Why would you equate a diplomatic solution with war?
I do not recall the US invading Cuba to end the missile crisis?
Your claim that:
diplomacy = war is a false equivalence fallacy.
Your posts are all based on the delusional idea that might makes right. That since Russia has a military, it has the "right" to inflict suffering on its neighbors. That argument is nonsense.
I think you need to go back and re-read and understand some basic history regarding the cuban missile crisis. The Russians were wise to disengage. The world was a couple times seconds away from Nuclear holocaust.
Russia very clearly in 2004 ,2008 and 2014 and in Dec 2021 let the US know [told NATO but they are just USpups], that expansion into Ukraine is a red line
Now lets do a side by side comparison
1962 US told USSR that sending missiles to Cuba will lead to war [even thgh it was a reaction to US putting missies in Turkey]
2021 - Russia told US that expanding NATO into Ukr is a no go
1962 - USSR sent cargo ships with Missiles
2021 - US said Ukr has every right to join NATO and infact Z went one step ahead and said Ukr will reconstitute nuke weapons
1962 - US said that if Russian ships cross a certain distance towards Cuba , That ship will be sunk. USSR responded that any ships shooting at cargo ship will be shot at as well.
2021 - Russia said that continued provocation about NATO expansion will lead to war. Ursula and Blankin response was that Russia has not say in NATO expansion. Russia said they will take non diplomatic means
1962 - A few miles before the cutoff point, the USSR cargo ship turned around and headed back to Europe. The negotiation was that Russia wont base ship in Cuba and the US [quietly] will remove the msisiles from Turkey
2021 - In this case, even after repeated Russian calls for diplomacy, the admin did not respond. a honest review of news then without blinkers will give you some clarity. [So who did not want diplomacy in 2021, when the US SD said there is nothing to negotiate]
As you can see , there is a diversion is the path in the above step. in 1962, negotiarions were done honestly but now US SD and NATO did not want to negotiate.
Technically, yes, in software. All the targeting data is likely coalesced in a database as well - but if we have any brains, and we do, it’ll be well protectEd. It just isn’t worth screwing with software in that way for combat equipment - it would be a potential disaster if a bug was introduced.
From my perspective, we should just let it be - at some point, sadly, UKR may need to target civilian areas in Russia if the Russians try to hide their most valuable assets behind human shields. Russia shouldn’t endanger their own people, but Putin doesn’t care - they’d just see it as an opportunity to accuse UKR of war crimes.
Honestly, it appears Russia will be making another thrust from Belarus. It should be open season on targets just over the boarder - don’t let the bastards get a foot hold. This isn’t a damn game. All IMHO - I don’t sit behind the resolute desk in the Oval Office.
Straight to conspiracy theories?Are you talking about the US or Russia here. I am not very clear.hahaha. Sure we can inflict pain on anyone in the planet but Russia cannot inflict pain in its own neighborhood to protect its own Russian speaking populace.
How about this. Look up the OSCE publication on ceasefire violations and count how many civilian deaths occurred between 2015-2022 due to Ukr civilians.
There is not one western reporter reporting from Ukr frontlines. everything is fed via Kiev
Hot take is whatever the US will do if Russia has bases in Mexico and Canada. what do you think we will do, if that happens
some basic facts about the war with the morons going off from twitter feed.
1. Russia can perpetually make weapons , how long will the US support Ukraine and more importantly how long will Ukrainians fight the Russians
2. Winter is coming and once euro wimps feel the wrath of the populace burning shit down [unlike the pussies here who wont riot even in the face of the biggest FU from the govt] , the war is mostly won.
3. Russia is a net commodity exporter that the world needs.
4. The jackoff's here on this thread are rah rah'ing small tactical victories while the Russians with a 3:1 disadvantage is taking over the industrialized part of Ukraine slowly. Once Russians take over Kharkiv, Odessa, Mikolaeyv and Dneipetrovisk, Ukr has nothing else except farmlands. All the entrenchments built over the past 8 years will be behind the Russians. where will the Ukr now fight?
5. The chickenhawks here who have been clamoring for war since Iraq are still here clamorning for more war.