Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Leeea

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The likely fate of most Russians trying to get out of Lyman. Ukraine mined the road with rocket/tube delivered anti-tank mines, had it under active observation, and had the route zeroed for their artillery. Staying was suicide but I think Putin forbid a retreat so as to not ruin his big day in Moscow.

The blurred parts of that video appears to be bodies, in some cases piles of them.

I wonder if Ukraine just pulled off a highway of death moment.
 
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Jaskalas

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The blurred parts of that video appears to be bodies, in some cases piles of them.

I wonder if Ukraine just pulled off a highway of death moment.

Did you read the description from someone who was / is there?
One guy's unit, by itself, has killed roughly 150 men. They are slipping on the pools of Russian blood on the road.

I'll re-link it. “It's a slaughter” – Ukraine Volunteer Transcripts on the action west of Kreminna in the early morning of October 1st
 
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Did you read the description from someone who was / is there?
One guy's unit, by itself, has killed roughly 150 men. They are slipping on the pools of Russian blood on the road.

I'll re-link it. “It's a slaughter” – Ukraine Volunteer Transcripts on the action west of Kreminna in the early morning of October 1st
The master plan, to throw infantry at the Ukrainians until they run out of bullets, seems to have worked... at least one Ukrainian group had to back off from slaughtering Russians to go find more ammo. (Except the Russians were running away by that point.)
 
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Leeea

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I read that already, that account is favorable to the Russians.

That guys account indicates his unit lost communication with the Ukrainian SF unit that was coordinating things. His unit appears to be scattered in the chaos and encountering Russian units trying to infiltrate their way out. His own unit is also trying to infiltrate out in the chaos.


If anything, his account claims the opposite of a high way of death. Russian units are in the forest and trying to slip through dispersed uncoordinated Ukrainian units.


If that account is what is happening on a large scale, most of the Russians will escape. I am hoping his unit losing command, control, and running out of ammo is the exception rather then the rule.


Yes, his unit killed a lot of Russians. But not enough. Hundreds dead is completely inadequate when thousands are exposed.
 
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Leeea

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The claims Ukraine took Lyman may be "premature".
10/1: "Over 5,000 Russian troops have been encircled by Ukrainian forces in the Donetsk region’s Lyman. "

This is good news if true, as it means most of the Russian forces are trapped.
 
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Waiting for a meme to come out for a Forever Annexation postage stamp. You know for Putin's "forever" annexation of some Ukrainian provinces.
 
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K1052

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The claims Ukraine took Lyman may be "premature".
10/1: "Over 5,000 Russian troops have been encircled by Ukrainian forces in the Donetsk region’s Lyman. "

This is good news if true, as it means most of the Russian forces are trapped.

There's geolocated video in central Lyman and even the Russian MOD says it's over. Mopping up surely continues.
 
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Leeea

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different video of Ukrainian forces moving into Lyman ( note the blue tape on one of the dead ):

video claiming to be from Yampil:

video claiming to be Ukrainian forces moving toward Yampil:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/xs1pqc/ukrainian_forces_in_yampil_area_destroyed_russian/


video claiming to show fighting in Yampil, the Russian forces seem unaware of the Ukrainian soldiers:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/xsuyub/serviceman_of_the_ukrainian_national_guard/
 

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The claims Ukraine took Lyman may be "premature".
10/1: "Over 5,000 Russian troops have been encircled by Ukrainian forces in the Donetsk region’s Lyman. "

This is good news if true, as it means most of the Russian forces are trapped.
NY Times reports Lyman has fallen to Ukraine

This link should work for 14 days, i.e. until Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022:

 

Leeea

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There's geolocated video in central Lyman and even the Russian MOD says it's over. Mopping up surely continues.
I think Russian MOD wrote off the remaining Russian soldiers in Lyman.


Russian MOD is claiming Russian forces withdrew, I think that is the chaos last night. Seems unlikely all of the Russian soldiers ran the chaos.


Main stream news is reporting Ukrainian soldiers in Lyman and Russians surrounded in Lyman:
The Russian defence ministry's statement made no mention of its troops being encircled at Lyman, diverging starkly from Ukraine's version of events.

"The Russian grouping in the area of Lyman is surrounded," Serhii Cherevatyi, spokesperson for Ukraine's eastern forces, said hours earlier.

He said that Russia had 5,000 to 5,500 troops at Lyman but the number of encircled troops could be lower because of casualties. He confirmed Ukraine was inside the town later that afternoon.

"We're already in Lyman, but there are battles," he said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-around-lyman-stronghold-military-2022-10-01/

things are happening quickly now
 

Leeea

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NY Times reports Lyman has fallen to Ukraine

This link should work for 14 days, i.e. until Saturday, Oct. 15, 2022:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/1...IfA1zPRw93aEOdUshuPaZ8BivGsiFD&smid=share-url

Your NYT article is quoting Russian MOD as its source. I do not believe the Russian's know what is going on. I speculate Russian MOD gave the order to withdraw last night, chaos occured last night, and a bunch of Russian soldiers did not make it out of the city.

I am hoping Russian MOD left a whole bunch of conscripts behind and are refusing to admit it.
 
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K1052

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I don't think the Russians can do a lot except possibly slow down the Ukrainian advance into Luhansk Oblast. This is likely the tab for transferring so much strength to Kherson that's now pinned there.
 
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If Putin uses nukes NATO will eradicate the Russian military inside Ukraine. We've told them this.
As I"ve pointed out several times there is no record of what the US has said the response will be. We know it will be noisey but the White House has failed, for its own purposes I guess, unless it hasn't made up its mind, to be specific, on the record. One feature armchair Generals like to opine is that the response will be non nuclear. I doubt that . Let Pukin play with his toys but NATO hides theirs under the bed ? Don't think so. One USAF General (Ret) said the US would likely take out the Black fleet. No one else has bothered to enlighten everyone which I think is a foolish strategy. Pukin may get the sense there is a resistence to go to the mat if the US cannot be specific about it.
Edit Perhaps the US has been specific and is keeping everyone else in the dark ?
 
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Leeea

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2 hours ago DW ( German state media ) stated Russian troops surrounded in Lyman:

Important:
This report has snippets of the video of Ukrainian soldiers hoisting the flag on the outskirts. It does not appear to be outdated. DW is not claiming Ukraine took Lyman, but rather Ukraine has surrounded Russians in Lyman.


This appears to be confirmation of speculation that Russians are trapped in Lyman.
 
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