Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Jaskalas]

P66 falls, Luhansk Oblast falls.
We are on the cusp of another Izyum.

 

[K1052]

Europeans funding more Zuzana 2s for Ukraine.

Likely these have to come off the production line.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576574516964098051

 

[K1052]

P66 falls, Luhansk Oblast falls.
We are on the cusp of another Izyum.

I'm getting the impression that Putin likely considers everything north of the Donets expendable, along with the people he's got defending it just so they can bloody the Ukrainians. Russian mil bloggers asking why they are not getting more resources ignores the obvious which is that he's decided to direct what he's got to the south.

 

[K1052]

Ukraine receiving M26 rockets for the M142s/M240s would be extremely bad news for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576563982457921536

 

[uallas5]

So much alcohol...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576126060764094464

 

[kage69]

I think if Putin is debating the use of micro nukes, good chance Kreminna is "the Rubicon" for him there.

We'll see, shouldn't take too long.

 

[pmv]

Ukraine receiving M26 rockets for the M142s/M240s would be extremely bad news for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576563982457921536

Don't really understand that discussion ( not that Twitter lets me see the whole thread anyway). I thought the argument against such cluster bomblet rounds was not their effect on combatants at the time, but the long term problem they lead to for civilians in the area after a conflict is over? Which in this case would mean presumably mean its bad news for the Ukrainians rather than Russians?

 

[kage69]

Ukraine receiving M26 rockets for the M142s/M240s would be extremely bad news for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576563982457921536

It's already like "shooting squirrels in a pecan orchard" and now we might hit Puree with cluster bombs? So much for none left in inventory eh? I had heard we kept a secret stash like the Brits supposedly do, but I never saw any confirmation of it. Or maybe we did and those are from the Brits? Won't matter to those downrange of it. Couple rounds of that'll wake'em up.

Run orcs, run.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm getting the impression that Putin likely considers everything north of the Donets expendable, along with the people he's got defending it just so they can bloody the Ukrainians. Russian mil bloggers asking why they are not getting more resources ignores the obvious which is that he's decided to direct what he's got to the south.

What, to hold the land bridge? To hold Crimea?
I struggle to imagine losing the Donbass is part of his plan. Heavy losses in the East will threaten the land bridge at some point.
And there is no Crimea without the land bridge.

 

[zinfamous]

Ukraine receiving M26 rockets for the M142s/M240s would be extremely bad news for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576563982457921536

I don't imagine that any of the conscripts with a 16-hour bus ride for their entire training cycle, emptying out into UK with raging vodka hangovers, are going to stick around once those cluster shells start exploding over their heads.

 

[Jaskalas]

Russia may struggle to mobilize if they cannot even clothe their soldiers.
ROFL, it appears that whatever Putin decided to spend money on, his "yes-men" pocketed that money instead of providing for the military.
Great job Russia!

'Where did they disappear to?': Russian MP says 1.5 mln military uniforms are missing

 

[K1052]

Don't really understand that discussion ( not that Twitter lets me see the whole thread anyway). I thought the argument against such cluster bomblet rounds was not their effect on combatants at the time, but the long term problem they lead to for civilians in the area after a conflict is over? Which in this case would mean presumably mean its bad news for the Ukrainians rather than Russians?

Russians are using cluster munitions all over the place so worries about UXO from the M26, which likely have way lower dud rates than soviet designs, is probably pointless.

 

[zinfamous]

Don't really understand that discussion ( not that Twitter lets me see the whole thread anyway). I thought the argument against such cluster bomblet rounds was not their effect on combatants at the time, but the long term problem they lead to for civilians in the area after a conflict is over? Which in this case would mean presumably mean its bad news for the Ukrainians rather than Russians?

once the orcs are dead and gone, UKR will be receiving unlimited resources for rebuilding and repopulating their homeland, which I imagine includes a thorough de-mining and munition clearing operation.

 

[K1052]

What, to hold the land bridge? To hold Crimea?
I struggle to imagine losing the Donbass is part of his plan. Heavy losses in the East will threaten the land bridge at some point.
And there is no Crimea without the land bridge.

By "the south" I include Donetsk Oblast. I'm increasingly skeptical he sees Luhansk as valuable.

 

[amenx]

Ukraine receiving M26 rockets for the M142s/M240s would be extremely bad news for the Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576563982457921536

Had to look it up when described as "barbaric".

Cluster Munition Questions and Answers: The M26 Rocket

www.hrw.org

 

[K1052]

Had to look it up when described as "barbaric".

Cluster Munition Questions and Answers: The M26 Rocket

www.hrw.org

The Russians don't care about dud rates, their own stuff is likely way higher due to improper storage. They care about taking a bunch of cluster munitions in the face.

Ukrainians are not likely to use these indiscriminately either. Probably only against concentrated targets where risk of collateral damage is acceptably low.

 

[Jaskalas]

If you thought America had Q problems.....
Get a load of the Russian brain trust....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576579958063140864

 

[MomentsofSanity]

If you thought America had Q problems.....
Get a load of the Russian brain trust....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576579958063140864

One account with 9 followers doesn’t a movement make…

 

[cytg111]

I think if Putin is debating the use of micro nukes, good chance Kreminna is "the Rubicon" for him there.

We'll see, shouldn't take too long.

Yep. Afraid you’re right. Holy shit. Its coming.

 

[K1052]

Signs of some possible trouble for Russians in Kherson.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576607186444091393

 

[rommelrommel]

What, to hold the land bridge? To hold Crimea?
I struggle to imagine losing the Donbass is part of his plan. Heavy losses in the East will threaten the land bridge at some point.
And there is no Crimea without the land bridge.

Well, he's clearly put the majority of his best forces in the south. What his plan is, who knows. It's been clear the whole time that Russian high command either doesn't actually know the abilities of their forces, or are playing along with the now clear myth that their forces are as capable as they are on paper.

 

[pmv]

Can't say I disagree with this in any way, but it does seem incredibly random. What's the connection between Luke Skywalker and Ukrainian drones?

Mark Hamill calls for more drones for Ukraine to fight Russian invasion

Star Wars actor promotes Ukrainian drive for donations and compares Russia to ‘evil empire’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Leeea]

once the orcs are dead and gone, UKR will be receiving unlimited resources for rebuilding and repopulating their homeland, which I imagine includes a thorough de-mining and munition clearing operation.

I hope so, but this seems unlikely.

What will happen is US / Western companies will move in to "assist" the Ukrainians with developing their natural gas fields, which it turns out are just as good as Russia's. In the best case scenario Ukraine runs the fields themselves with western equipment. The worst case is the west runs them and gives the Ukrainian government a profit sharing.

The first option is good for everyone, the second option breeds corruption.

Both options are better then being exterminated by Russia.

Yep. Afraid you’re right. Holy shit. Its coming.

Russia will not use a nuke. They threat, scream, but that is one line they are not going to cross. It is not just about one man, it is about a bureaucracy. An inner circle. For them, there is no gain in a world that glows in the dark.

 

[deustroop]

Yep. Afraid you’re right. Holy shit. Its coming.

Easy now boys let's not get hysterical. Is it likely that a power obsessed psyco who just finished hosting his political world in an imperial celebration and popular Party shindig is gonna embarrass and humiliate himself by committing political suicide via nuclear war right in front of these esteemed autocrats over the sight of a few dead bodies ?
The war so far has been a failure but what's that to him ? Pride lost for sure but I'm sure he will not help his enemies by losing his power purchase in an unpredictable nuclear exchange with the far more powerful West.You must recall at this juncture that literally no one has ventured a guess as to getting this guy to the ICC, of forcing reparations and all the other goodies of a surrender.
Everyone should recall the army of the West is as of now not prepared to go get the guy in Moscow. So he is immune personally until this little bit of stratagem is sorted out and it never will be unless UKR is prepared to march on Moscow. (Marching on Moscow does have a bad history.)
Basically even if he loses all he just expropriated and the Crimea, there's no threat to him personally relaxing inside a Russia with whatever army he still has there.If he doesn't throw down neither will UKR and all is static at 2014 borders . Consider it : he eats caviar and replenishes his useless army.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Where is K-329 Belgorod ?