Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Dave_5k]

Not just veto, there's also the filibuster in the Senate.

Saw some posts on Reddit claiming Russians have thrown off uniforms and will attempt to the attack Ukrainian troops in Kherson dressed as civilians. That would of course be a war crime.

War crimes are basically nothing more than an oversized BINGO card for Russia.

They're not quite up to 100% on independently documented violations for every single one of the 34 listed war-crimes, using the limited list defined by UN Rome Statute of the International Court for an international conflict, but I'd put them scoring at around 90% of all listed war crimes achieved so far against Ukraine (most line items repeatedly violated, apparently as standard operating procedure for Russia), with the other ~10% or so not (yet) proven.

United Nations Office on Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protect

Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protect

www.un.org

A few missing items for a perfect Russian war crime score:
- Using poison or poisoned weapons
- Conscripting children under 15
- Declaring that no quarter will be given

 

[feralkid]

Saw some posts on Reddit claiming Russians have thrown off uniforms and will attempt to the attack Ukrainian troops in Kherson dressed as civilians.

That's it!

They figured it out:

The reason the Russians are getting their asses kicked is...those stupid uniforms.

 

[zinfamous]

How would they go about doing that?

send a generally nonsense request to Brother Thomas and ask for a baldly illegal stay from the SCOTUS, and it will be punted for some made up reason that will, naturally, allow SCOTUS to grant itself sudden powers for the first time ever.

I mean, they will try that. Hope it lasts a week, at least, before people wake up. If something like that lasts for more than a few hours, and it is publicly known, then we're in trouble.

They will try it.

 

[Perknose]

Abandoned Russian base holds secrets of retreat in Ukraine

When Russian troops fled the Ukrainian town of Balakliia last month, they left behind thousands of documents that show in unprecedented detail the inner workings of the Russian war machine.

www.reuters.com

Good story from Reuters about the hastily abandoned Russian base in Balakliia

Great minds think alike.

In depth insights from abandoned Russian base.

It documents in detail the parlous state of the Russian defenders.

 

[K1052]

$400M more in military aid

T-72s will be upgraded with new engines, thermal sights, reactive armor, modern fire control, etc.

The Hawks in US inventory need to be refurbished and upgraded before they can be sent. I didn't figure there were warehouses full of these things just sitting around but I guess so.

Ukraine will also receive 40 river armored river patrol boats, 250 M1117 APCs, and more secure communications systems.

 

[dainthomas]

If Republicans did tie rescinding to a debt ceiling bill Biden wouldn't be able to do anything about it but let it ride. You don't choose another country over your own. My God, talk about the optics on that one, haunting Democrats for a century.

Why does this debt ceiling nonsense keep coming up? All it does is lead to these sorts of shenanigans periodically.

Just set the next one to 500 quadrillion and call it good.

 

[Amused]

Sounds like the Russians have left Kherson?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588103347709558785

Ukraine says trap:

Ukraine Situation Report: Russian Flag Removal In Kherson City Is A Trap Kyiv Says

There are indications that Russia may be abandoning Kherson City, but Ukraine says they are digging in for a long fight.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Artorias]

Why does this debt ceiling nonsense keep coming up? All it does is lead to these sorts of shenanigans periodically.

Just set the next one to 500 quadrillion and call it good.

It's not like the US is ever going to pay any of it back currently anyway lol.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

New way to make Silly Putty even less relevant?

More natural gas found off the coast of key EU supplier, Norway

 

[Jaskalas]

Putin is counting on failing support for Ukraine in the years ahead.

As inflation rises, could European support for Ukraine wobble?

But more than 250 days later, as winter sets in and inflation rises, their resolve stands to be tested as public anxiety over the effects of a prolonged war brews.​

At the same time, analysts warn a potential victory of critical voices in next week’s American midterm elections could fracture the West’s staunch support for Kyiv.​

Putin wants the world to forget Ukraine

Putin’s message to the West, East and South is to focus on the global crises they face and let him have Ukraine.​

His key message – directed at other powers like China and India – was that the end of American hegemony should lead to the end of the Western promotion of democracy and institutions of governance, universality of human rights and what has become known as the “liberal world order” in general.​

Actually, now that I snipped some quotes from it, it appears that Putin has another message altogether. Not only is he planning long term, for us to abandon our Allies and forsake all bonds of fellowship, Putin has avowed that Human Rights no longer exist, no longer hold sway over Russia and its Allies.

Meanwhile, people throughout Russian society continue to reaffirm that absolute Genocide is their only purpose.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588205438016815105

 

[Indus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1588897196531126272

Last 24 hours Russian troops attacked 14 different villages across the Donetsk and Luhansk Regions.
Ended up retreating at all 14.

Slava Ukraini.

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[uallas5]

$400M more in military aid

T-72s will be upgraded with new engines, thermal sights, reactive armor, modern fire control, etc.

The Hawks in US inventory need to be refurbished and upgraded before they can be sent. I didn't figure there were warehouses full of these things just sitting around but I guess so.

Ukraine will also receive 40 river armored river patrol boats, 250 M1117 APCs, and more secure communications systems.

What popped in my head when I read the part about armored river boats:

 

[K1052]

Putin is counting on failing support for Ukraine in the years ahead.

As inflation rises, could European support for Ukraine wobble?

But more than 250 days later, as winter sets in and inflation rises, their resolve stands to be tested as public anxiety over the effects of a prolonged war brews.​

At the same time, analysts warn a potential victory of critical voices in next week’s American midterm elections could fracture the West’s staunch support for Kyiv.​

Hope is not a strategy and somebody should probably tell him that. His energy blackmail has failed.

 

[trenchfoot]

Some interesting commentary in this article, along with how it portrays Lindsey Graham as an ardent supporter of Biden's policies that pledge dedicated support for Ukraine's fight against Putin. I was a bit surprised over that while admitting I made assumptions over it based on what I 've been hearing and seeing about the guy.

I was wondering how the upcoming harsh days of winter will affect both sides in this war and this article deals with that to some extent.

'A test for our endurance': Will brutal winter weather be a game changer for Ukraine or Russia?

Ukraine vowing to press on in 'the most difficult winter in the whole world,' while a struggling Russia continues massive infrastructure attacks.

www.usatoday.com

 

[you2]

The real problem will be the house if republicans win control as it is fill with people without convictions or morals.

Some interesting commentary in this article, along with how it portrays Lindsey Graham as an ardent supporter of Biden's policies that pledge dedicated support for Ukraine's fight against Putin. I was a bit surprised over that while admitting I made assumptions over it based on what I 've been hearing and seeing about the guy.

I was wondering how the upcoming harsh days of winter will affect both sides in this war and this article deals with that to some extent.

'A test for our endurance': Will brutal winter weather be a game changer for Ukraine or Russia?

Ukraine vowing to press on in 'the most difficult winter in the whole world,' while a struggling Russia continues massive infrastructure attacks.

www.usatoday.com

 

[manly]

I can't find the thread we were discussing this in, but Elon Musk is totally lying about giving Starlink service (not the satellites, many of which were donated by other countries) to Ukraine "for free."

Ukraine suffered a comms outage when 1,300 SpaceX satellite units went offline over funding issues | CNN Politics

Ukraine's fears that its troops  may lose access to Elon Musk's crucial Starlink internet service deepened in the past week after 1,300 of the military's satellite units went offline, according to two sources familiar with the outage.

www.cnn.com

He's been billing Ukraine's military a high amount per satellite the whole time, and is still negotiating with DoD to get reimbursed. Ukraine can't afford it, so he wants the UK or U.S. to foot the bill.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^^ He's really a major piece of scum.

 

[Leeea]

I can't find the thread we were discussing this in, but Elon Musk is totally lying about giving Starlink service (not the satellites, many of which were donated by other countries) to Ukraine "for free."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/04/politics/spacex-ukraine-elon-musk-starlink-internet-outage/index.html

He's been billing Ukraine's military a high amount per satellite the whole time, and is still negotiating with DoD to get reimbursed. Ukraine can't afford it, so he wants the UK or U.S. to foot the bill.

From @manly's link:

SpaceX was charging Ukraine’s military $2,500 a month to keep each of the 1,300 units connected, pushing the total cost to almost $20 million by September, the person briefed on the matter said. Eventually, they could no longer afford to pay, the person said.  

For you or I to purchase said service: $110 a month ( https://www.satelliteinternet.com/providers/starlink/ )

War profiteer. When he saw weakness he embraced gluttony. Greed in its most evil form.

Needed. Necessary. But without a single charitable bone in his body.


Give the scum his money and subsidize his competition.

 

[kage69]

Ahahaha, Air Force KC-135 gives Putin the cock n balls outside Russian naval base in Tartus.

 

[Michael]

From @manly's link:

For you or I to purchase said service: $110 a month ( https://www.satelliteinternet.com/providers/starlink/ )

War profiteer. When he saw weakness he embraced gluttony. Greed in its most evil form.

Needed. Necessary. But without a single charitable bone in his body.


Give the scum his money and subsidize his competition.

There are different rates for different types of service. You cannot compare a fixed location personal service to what a military unit may be doing.

I know, now he is viewed as a “right wing” guy, so he is bad bad bad. But this thread is going well beyond what was in the article.

 

[Exterous]

There are different rates for different types of service. You cannot compare a fixed location personal service to what a military unit may be doing.

I know, now he is viewed as a “right wing” guy, so he is bad bad bad. But this thread is going well beyond what was in the article.

He's not right wing. He's into evil billionaire territory as now. Just look at his destroy Twitter speed run. Somehow it's not his fault that the chaos and instability he introduced is scaring off investors. Given his proven shady track record at Tesla and now Twitter I'd be surprised if he wasn't doing something shady with Starlink

 

[Leeea]

There are different rates for different types of service. You cannot compare a fixed location personal service to what a military unit may be doing.

Absolutely. And Elon charges 23x for the you will be exterminated if you do not pay what I ask service.

I know, now he is viewed as a “right wing” guy, so he is bad bad bad. But this thread is going well beyond what was in the article.

Elon is not right wing or left wing.

Elon is greed wing.

That is not illegal. Unethical? Yes. Greedy? Yes. Embracing the worse evils of capitalism? Yes.

Criminal? No.


Elon is simply demonstrating something we all learned long ago in school. Monopolies cannot be trusted. Without competition capitalism begets evil. Whatever idealism Elon may have once had, the monopoly Elon obtained created the monster we now see.

Break that monopoly, and the capitalistic system will regain balance. Subsidizing his competitors is both the best and gentlest solution. For everyone, including Elon. The alternative is the Sherman act.


It is the American way. Indoctrinated into all of us as part of our schooling. Monoplies are always evil.

 

[Michael]

There is no verification to the CNN quoted price and they are all purchased from an unidentified UK company (the ones with the higher price quoted). Seems like incomplete reporting to me.

 

[K1052]

There are a lot of reports the last couple days of massive Russian losses being suffered in attacks. It sounds like maybe mobilized units being pushed forward with little to no support and getting absolutely slaughtered. Units are deserting their posts and confronting what military leadership they can find, refusing to fight.

Shoving untrained and unequipped troops at firm Ukrainian defenses manned by experienced troops isn't going to accomplish anything but get a lot of people killed.

 

[zinfamous]

There are a lot of reports the last couple days of massive Russian losses being suffered in attacks. It sounds like maybe mobilized units being pushed forward with little to no support and getting absolutely slaughtered. Units are deserting their posts and confronting what military leadership they can find, refusing to fight.

Shoving untrained and unequipped troops at firm Ukrainian defenses manned by experienced troops isn't going to accomplish anything but get a lot of people killed.

The source I am hearing from "over there," are at about 800-900 deaths per day on the Russian side over the last week+. I don't really have anything to link for that, however.