Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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In related developments: Serbia decides doing biz with Europe a better deal than starting a losing war. If only the Russians were so sensible.



Grats Belgrade, your eyes work.

Good news, plus one less area Kremlin can use to start shit and distract NATO. Or at least it's become harder to do so. Starting to part ways with the global pariah, probably a good idea.

 
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hal2kilo

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Ok, so I thought Russia was claiming they dint do nuffin to the drone, and it crashed itself. So...the awards for the pilots are for just being there to see it? Now that they got outed by the video, this is the, "Yeah, so what?" action.

Such shitheads.


I was going to say...he'll have to rumble with Seagal, since Steven is a Pooty stooge and has been for years. He's now a Russian citizen.
I almost like Trump denying something by admitting it.
 
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shortylickens

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By the way does anybody even remember Putins original claim? Wasnt it that he wanted to wipe out fascism in Ukraine?
Is he still running with that story or does nobody even care any more?
 
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kage69

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This video is months old. Albania supplied Chinese 60mm mortar tubes and rounds to Ukraine as military aid.



Well look at that, glad to be wrong there then. China supplying lethal aid to Russia is going to force the West to open a can of worms I'd rather they didn't have to, in addition to helping Russians kill more Ukrainians obviously.

So there is still hope Xi is going to say No to lethal aid I guess.
 

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Pens1566

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By the way does anybody even remember Putins original claim? Wasnt it that he wanted to wipe out fascism in Ukraine?
Is he still running with that story or does nobody even care any more?

I think he's moved on to ridding Ukraine of pedophiles and mask mandates. Makes it easier to streamline the propaganda.
 

Perknose

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Xi in Moscow today. Got a notion today will be significant in the Ukrainian crisis timeline.
Apart from formal, public statements of support, China will do nothing dramatic in terms of military support. They will give as much small scale, secret munitions support as they can get away with, but nothing that would tip the balance of power towards Russia.

For one, large scale support would not enable Russia to defeat Ukraine. It would only enable Russia to prolong the war. China does not want the trade disruption that prolonging the Ukraine was would, well, prolong.
 

K1052

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So, the Polish ambassador to France - over his skis, trial balloon, official policy? Wonder what's really going on here.


Even the Russians regularly mention Poland as a subsequent target for their aggression after they destroy Ukraine. His argument seems to be that arming Ukraine is an investment in Polish national security, which I'd agree with.
 

kage69

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So France got it's way? The ammo has to come from the EU? Lovely.

Time is of the essence... so let's produce them in the EU - once the important materials are imported - instead of buying from SK.

This help would look better if it lacked the protectionism Macron, would probably get there a lot quicker too.
 
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K1052

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So France got it's way? The ammo has to come from the EU? Lovely.

Time is of the essence... so let's produce them in the EU - once the important materials are imported - instead of buying from SK.

This help would look better if it lacked the protectionism Macron, would probably get there a lot quicker too.

South Korea itself would not prefer to sell completed munitions for use in Ukraine. The US Army has been buying from them but only to backfill what we're sending to Ukraine, not for re-export. I'm sure they'd be willing to sell bulk explosive filler (TNT and Comp B) plus propellant.
 

Abe Froman

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During all of 2023, the media kept discussing the limited supply of troops in Russia, even with the draft orders, but it seems to not be holding them back at all. Any indication on why we haven't heard an update on this topic? Was it media propaganda or will they actually suffer defeats related to this in the near future?

It really felt like all of 2022 was about miscalculations by the Russian military and the Kremlin and that this might be fizzling out soon, but it continues to look as though there's no end in sight.
 
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