Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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There where pictures of maxim guns (with carriages) being used by Luhansk/Donetsk militias from the start of this mess

Both sides have been using them. Somehow Ukraine ended up with an absurd number of Maxim guns (like 30-40k) stuffed in an armory somewhere. They've been making more advanced modifications than the militia guys though.

 

[DHT]Osiris

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If only there was a way to import them those LPR guys could make bank selling all that to US collectors and like go on vacation to Turkey instead of getting killed in the war.

Even just the Tokarevs are worth 2500-3000 USD each.
Yeah I was gonna say, that's actually a pretty high dollar value amount of classic firearms, far more than the usual dreck they're working with.
 

trenchfoot

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meanwhile in Russia...still using lend-lease weapons...get your Thompson Sub Machine gun everyone!



Sgt. Saunders would be very angry over this travesty. I'm sure he's turning over in his grave after hearing of this.
 
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Brovane

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Something is afoot—I’ll leave it to the military college experts to decipher this.


Interesting if this area has dried out enough for the Ukrainians to effectively bridge the Dnipro and attack through this area after the Russians destroyed the dam up-river. This could have been the original axis of advance until the Russians blew up the dam and forced the Ukrainians to delay the attack.
 

Exterous

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China can't be happy about all the changes this war has brought to the west. Not only were arms industries stagnating but their suppliers were disappearing. Now that all is changing in a rather notable way as factories and countries are re-investing in critical defense industry supply production. The UK nationalized one of their few remaining, and struggling military grade steel producers to keep them around. Germany's KNDS bought it's own steel foundry that was in insolvency to ensure they had a proper steel supply

arms-industry executives in the U.S. and Europe complain that a declining number of suppliers have led to long lead times and higher prices.

Securing specialty metals is one of several supply-chain challenges facing the sector, where shortages of chips, rocket engines and other components have hindered efforts to arm Ukraine and replenish supplies sent there.
Britain’s steel industry has declined in recent decades, meaning the West’s second-biggest military spender after the U.S. is reliant, for example, on French imports of the metal to build its next generation of nuclear submarines, a program valued at almost $40 billion.

KNDS’s Ketzel said the biggest risk to ballistic steel supplies in Europe is if the wider regional steel industry falls away. Western steel production has shrunk for at least a decade under pressure from cheaper imports and amid more costly regulations related to reducing carbon emissions.
 

K1052

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Russians themselves stating the obvious that their large rear depots are no longer tenable. Russian reliance on heavy rail transport means there are only so many places they can use and they're relatively easy to find. Nor, as recent events illustrate, are their command centers remotely safe as high ranking officers keep dying due to Storm Shadow poisoning. The need to pull both back is detrimental to defense efforts.

 

Jaskalas

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China can't be happy about all the changes this war has brought to the west. Not only were arms industries stagnating but their suppliers were disappearing. Now that all is changing in a rather notable way as factories and countries are re-investing in critical defense industry supply production. The UK nationalized one of their few remaining, and struggling military grade steel producers to keep them around. Germany's KNDS bought it's own steel foundry that was in insolvency to ensure they had a proper steel supply
Truly, if it takes us multiple years to even restart production lines. China has to be rather upset that this lead time, this weakness, is now a lost opportunity that they can no longer exploit.
OTOH, ground weapons are probably not related to the air / naval battle ahead. Perhaps we will never ramp up production for those assets, and China won't have as much of an issue from Russia's land war as we would like to think?
 

trenchfoot

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Truly, if it takes us multiple years to even restart production lines. China has to be rather upset that this lead time, this weakness, is now a lost opportunity that they can no longer exploit.
OTOH, ground weapons are probably not related to the air / naval battle ahead. Perhaps we will never ramp up production for those assets, and China won't have as much of an issue from Russia's land war as we would like to think?

To respond in part in answer to your question:

From the steady build up of training cycles I see coming out of all the military bases on the island of O'ahu, I can safely assume our political and military leaders are very serious about the increasing threat that China is exerting in the Pacific theater of operations, especially in the area of the chain of islands that Japan possesses of which terminates quite closely to Taiwan.

New bases are presently being built and fortified on those islands that include airfields, harbors and missile bases that in time will present a formidable blockade that China's navy will have to breach in order to fight a war on their terms.
 
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