Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Pipeline 1010

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Are you sure about this - i thought they were engineering mutant spiders that would crawl into Russian homes and suck the children dry. Or maybe they were generating mutant dogs that would kill all the Russians cats; i forget which mutants they are working on this week.

Por que no los dos?
 

fskimospy

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Who killed them? Western armies?

Out of the left side of your lying forked tongue you claim that Russia wants peace and the west wants war.

Out of the right side of your forked snake tongue, you claim that 500K people are dead because of the west, despite the fact that RUSSIA killed them.

I think you are having flashbacks from high school when the bully said he had to punch you in the face because he wanted peace. And you believed him.
It is darkly amusing how this clown is trying to blame the west for Russia’s invasion.

I guess he thinks Iraq was to blame for the US invading it? (Hint: he will say no)
 

RnR_au

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Germany slowly winding up its armament procurements. This type of mine is new to me. Sounds tasty!

Now it's official. The Bundeswehr has ordered 2,600 DM22 off-route anti-tank mines from TDW. Option for the procurement of a further 10,000 mines. This means that production of the mines, which have also been supplied to Ukraine on a large scale, will be restarted after many years!
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The DM22 is an anti-tank mine supplied by Germany that has proven to be very effective in defence against the Russian armed forces. Germany has delivered at least 2,600 of them to Ukraine.
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Capabilities in the wiki link below;
 

Zorba

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It is darkly amusing how this clown is trying to blame the west for Russia’s invasion.

I guess he thinks Iraq was to blame for the US invading it? (Hint: he will say no)
The equivalent would be claiming we invaded Iraq because of China.
 

kage69

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Germany slowly winding up its armament procurements. This type of mine is new to me. Sounds tasty!


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Capabilities in the wiki link below;

They're pretty gnarly. Germany gave them like 2000 units a year or so ago, if they're sending more then lots have been used (sweet). We have something similar but it's more like a sensor fuzed weapon that gets flung up into the air then attacks downward. But yeah, an unmanned and accurate ballistic system that is easy to hide is pretty much a nightmare for the people facing it. It's not giving off any heat, RF or sounds, and it doesn't get bored, tired or need to go take a piss. More or less a claymore for tanks. I forget the effective range but it's impressive, here's a clip of a Russian vehicle catching one


Russians in second car: cykablyat shiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt, probably

The Bulgarians and Austrians both have something similar but it's for helicopters if you can believe it, also quite spicy.
 
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JTsyo

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They're pretty gnarly. Germany gave them like 2000 units a year or so ago, if they're sending more then lots have been used (sweet). We have something similar but it's more like a sensor fuzed weapon that gets flung up into the air then attacks downward. But yeah, an unmanned and accurate ballistic system that is easy to hide is pretty much a nightmare for the people facing it. It's not giving off any heat, RF or sounds, and it doesn't get bored, tired or need to go take a piss. More or less a claymore for tanks. I forget the effective range but it's impressive, here's a clip of a Russian vehicle catching one


Russians in second car: cykablyat shiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttt, probably

The Bulgarians and Austrians both have something similar but it's for helicopters if you can believe it, also quite spicy.
Even scarier are smart networked mines. Currently the convoy runs into a minefield, the first get blasted and the rest stop. With the smart one, it allows most of the convoy in before each mine takes out a vehicle. Not quite there yet but the new system they are looking for is to be networked.
 

kage69

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Even scarier are smart networked mines. Currently the convoy runs into a minefield, the first get blasted and the rest stop. With the smart one, it allows most of the convoy in before each mine takes out a vehicle. Not quite there yet but the new system they are looking for is to be networked.

That system had a lot of promise, it's a good concept, but two things have undermined it a bit. Cost, and the penchant for brave (or dumb) locals to walk up and steal it.

I'll be surprised if they keep it.

*finishes your link*

Oh nm, I'm late on XM204 news I guess. Army wants it and Textron's making it. I wonder if it's in original form or if Textron (or others) refined it at all. Smart tactics definitely make a big difference with hit count, but really moving from a contact fuze to an air burst munition is a huge, really shitty upgrade for those on the receiving end. Army probably is willing to deal with theft, cost and weight issues for that kind of safety and effectiveness though. Just got to make sure you hide them well I guess. I'm sure they don't work well with some holes in them. Hit the battery and it's all over.
 
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RnR_au

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I wonder how things are going inside Russia...

Vladimir Sviridov, former commander of the 6th Army of the Russian Air Force and Air Defense Forces, and his wife were found dead.

The body of the 68-year-old general was found in his house in the village of Andzhiyevsky, Stavropol Krai. The body of his 72-year-old wife Tatyana was found next to him.
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The cause of Vladimir and Tatyana Sviridov's death is unknown.
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Russian authorities have arrested executives at Carlsberg’s seized subsidiary Baltika Breweries under criminal charges of fraud as the battle over rights to the Danish brewer’s brand licences escalates, ⁦@SpeedMaddie⁩ and ⁦@courtney_ft⁩ report
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So shitty infighting and assassinations. Usual stuff.
 

dainthomas

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Because a peace agreement would have given them ALL of them land back minus Crimea?

You guys can call it fake news all you want, but I’ll take the word of a former PM of Israel who was actually at the negotiating table over the armchair generals on the AT forums 🤡





More like that’s what mainstream media wants you to forget 🤷‍♂️


So to sum it up, a peace agreement would have given them all of their territory back minus Crimea. But since the west DIDNT want peace(they never do), now Ukraine has 500k dead people, $100 billion of our tax dollars flushed down the toilet, and they will lose a sizeable chunk of their territory, and NATO gets humiliated in the process. How are those sanctions and oil price caps working?

That’s what ‘winning’ looks like.

Why is NATO making Russia bomb hospitals, shopping malls, and kindergartens?
 

Jaskalas

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While I agree Europe needs to take defense far more seriously, this is not true for the US, which maintains the ability to easily defeat Russia’s army all by ourselves.
Unrealized potential, is no potential at all.

Though I agree with the assessment that Europe needs to step up. That is primarily because of the threat Republicans pose in endorsing Russia's genocidal conquest of Europe. The United States is on the verge of betraying NATO and pulling resources from the fight. Without the United States actively opposing, Russia WILL have victory until nuclear weapons stop them. That is a very real risk, no US, no conventional force to stop Russia.

Russian Army Is Double Its Size on the Eve of Invasion and Likely Will Stay That Way

Only our ammo and our production stops this.

And if we are not willing to lift a finger, then we would let Russia attack NATO as well. MAGA treason for Russia knows no bounds. The only domino they need is our 2024 election. Then the rest can fall into place, and it takes a nuclear war to stop Russia. But who would "end the world" for Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, or Poland? What about Germany? Would UK and France commit to a first launch policy? Especially if the US + Russian allies are spoiling the Alliance?

Already, Poland needs a nuclear arsenal in response to our weakness. They need to rush it to completion to protect the region from ever expanding genocide.
The risk of us failing to act, and allowing Russia to reach Polish borders, is far too great to ignore.
 

K1052

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Unrealized potential, is no potential at all.

Though I agree with the assessment that Europe needs to step up. That is primarily because of the threat Republicans pose in endorsing Russia's genocidal conquest of Europe. The United States is on the verge of betraying NATO and pulling resources from the fight. Without the United States actively opposing, Russia WILL have victory until nuclear weapons stop them. That is a very real risk, no US, no conventional force to stop Russia.

Russian Army Is Double Its Size on the Eve of Invasion and Likely Will Stay That Way

Only our ammo and our production stops this.

And if we are not willing to lift a finger, then we would let Russia attack NATO as well. MAGA treason for Russia knows no bounds. The only domino they need is our 2024 election. Then the rest can fall into place, and it takes a nuclear war to stop Russia. But who would "end the world" for Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, or Poland? What about Germany? Would UK and France commit to a first launch policy? Especially if the US + Russian allies are spoiling the Alliance?

Already, Poland needs a nuclear arsenal in response to our weakness. They need to rush it to completion to protect the region from ever expanding genocide.
The risk of us failing to act, and allowing Russia to reach Polish borders, is far too great to ignore.

Modern problems require modern solutions.

 

GodisanAtheist

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As an American I'm trying to comprehend the kind of military power that would have to exist to inflict those levels of losses on our forces.

It would have to be like fighting the Independence Day Aliens or something like that.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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As an American I'm trying to comprehend the kind of military power that would have to exist to inflict those levels of losses on our forces.

It would have to be like fighting the Independence Day Aliens or something like that.


Go ask the Taliban. They inflicted plenty of equipment losses without a single plane, tank or boat in their arsenal.
 
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fskimospy

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Go ask the Taliban. They inflicted plenty of equipment losses without a single plane, tank or boat in their arsenal.
Over 20 years the US lost ~2,400 soldiers KIA in Afghanistan, which seems to be about an average number of orcs KIA in a week for Russia in Ukraine.

This is what happens when a degenerate country starts believing its own lies. You end up with an army that’s a piece of shit, hahaha.
 

K1052

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Over 20 years the US lost ~2,400 soldiers KIA in Afghanistan, which seems to be about an average number of orcs KIA in a week for Russia in Ukraine.

This is what happens when a degenerate country starts believing its own lies. You end up with an army that’s a piece of shit, hahaha.

They seem to be hitting this figure every 3-4 days since they went on the offensive again. So many bodies in the videos lately.
 

fskimospy

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They seem to be hitting this figure every 3-4 days since they went on the offensive again. So many bodies in the videos lately.
I view Ukrainian estimates to 1) probably be high and 2) to included wounded.

That being said, apparently given the sorry state of Russian battlefield medicine their wounded/KIA ratio seems to be very high.

What a worthless, degenerate country.
 
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