Generally bad form for two nuclear armed countries to come into direct conflict. Don't act like the Russians hate proxy wars or something because lol.
Judging by the West's rhetoric and actions, they want to severely weaken or even destroy Russia but without getting US troops involved. If Russia is such a weak country, then why doesn't America try something directly? We know America has no problems fighting wars and killing millions of people.
A temporary ceasefire is necessary at this time. A ceasefire is temporary peace. The situation is bad in Gaza. Bondage will remain because Israeli occupation is ever present.And WTF, you just fucking said this in the Israel thread, make up your stupid fuck mind.
I know this but a country has its own foreign policy, just like America has its own. Should other country's foreign policies be discarded?Ukraine isn't in Russia! Who the fuck cares what Russia wants. What they want is irrelevant.
So let’s talk about this - do I understand you to be saying the Palestinians should surrender?Look at each situation on its own. Period. Peace and freedom are abstract things people talk about. Tell that to the suffering peoples of the world, many of whom are victims of Western imperialism, including Palestinians. Directly in this case.
fskimospy, a ceasefire at the expense of temporary bondage is worth it at this time based on the events taking place in Gaza. Many Palestinians want this. Does that answer your question?
Well, to be honest, it would be very easy for Russians to smuggle thousands of people in through the very porous US borders. Many Chinese, Indians, Latin Americans are already coming in. And we know in the past that Mexico has gotten along with Russia. Let's not even talk about Cuba, which has soldiers fighting in Russia. So you are right, Russia can do a lot if they wanted to. I don't think they do at this time, hope that continues.Generally bad form for two nuclear armed countries to come into direct conflict. Don't act like the Russians hate proxy wars or something because lol.
Well, to be honest, it would be very easy for Russians to smuggle thousands of people in through the very porous US borders. Many Chinese, Indians, Latin Americans are already coming in. And we know in the past that Mexico has gotten along with Russia. Let's not even talk about Cuba, which has soldiers fighting in Russia. So you are right, Russia can do a lot if they wanted to. I don't think they do at this time, hope that continues.
No, hell no. I never said this so stop it already. Palestinians deserve to be free of Israeli occupation immediately. But thanks to US aid and weapons that cannot happen. Thank you America for helping Israel commit genocide.So let’s talk about this - do I understand you to be saying the Palestinians should surrender?
If so this is at least logically consistent. You want both Palestine and Ukraine to surrender in order to save lives. Can you confirm?
I’m just asking you to apply consistent principles.No, hell no. I never said this so stop it already. Palestinians deserve to be free of Israeli occupation immediately. But thanks to US aid and weapons that cannot happen. Thank you America for helping Israel commit genocide.
In Ukraine, the US meddling has prolonged this war. But again, two different conflicts. The Ukrainians are not living in situation like Palestinians. The Ukrainians, for the most part, have electricity, water, sewage, food, etc. They can freely travel in their country, fly out, fish etc. Palestinians are denied all of these things. And their entire land has been taken by a country, sponsored by the West for its own brutal genocide.
Why are you bringing Ukraine into Palestinian matters? Does Ukraine revolve around your head so much? We can talk about Palestine in the Gaza thread please. We can talk about the destruction of North Gaza and forcing people south. This thread should be about Ukraine. I know you are trying to catch me and make a point but please, lots of stuff happening in this evil world to be making political points.
No country's foreign policies should override another country's sovereignty. If Ukraine wants to be a part of NATO that's their decision to make, not Russia's.I know this but a country has its own foreign policy, just like America has its own. Should other country's foreign policies be discarded?
You make good points, like I said that is Russia's foreign policy. They deemed Ukraine's entry into NATO as such a severe threat that they launched a military campaign over it. Ukraine can do what it wants but Russia had made it clear in the past that this would not be allowed. You might not like their foreign policy but that's what it is.No country's foreign policies should override another country's sovereignty. If Ukraine wants to be a part of NATO that's their decision to make, not Russia's.
A temporary ceasefire is necessary at this time. A ceasefire is temporary peace. The situation is bad in Gaza. Bondage will remain because Israeli occupation is ever present.
Great job in bringing Ukraine to a thread about genocide in Gaza. You Ukraine fanatics don't care about no one else's suffering but want to make everything about Ukraine. There is a world outside of Ukraine.
Come back to the Ukraine thread, you might get educated there. Have some respect for this thread.
So Israel thought the Palestinian policy was unacceptable. You might not like it but that’s what it is.You make good points, like I said that is Russia's foreign policy. They deemed Ukraine's entry into NATO as such a severe threat that they launched a military campaign over it. Ukraine can do what it wants but Russia had made it clear in the past that this would not be allowed. You might not like their foreign policy but that's what it is.
A foreign policy that results in the entire west rallying against you is a bad foreign policy. It's bad by every measurable standard. I don't give a shit if Putin hates the west, hates NATO, hates everything western society stands for. All he had to do was deal with his own problems in his own country, NATO would have left them the fuck alone as they had done for nearly a goddamned century.You make good points, like I said that is Russia's foreign policy. They deemed Ukraine's entry into NATO as such a severe threat that they launched a military campaign over it. Ukraine can do what it wants but Russia had made it clear in the past that this would not be allowed. You might not like their foreign policy but that's what it is.
NATO was trying hard to get Ukraine as a member. Is this not so? And if this is the case, then Putin says its a threat. He sees it that way and many Russians see it that way.A foreign policy that results in the entire west rallying against you is a bad foreign policy. It's bad by every measurable standard. I don't give a shit if Putin hates the west, hates NATO, hates everything western society stands for. All he had to do was deal with his own problems in his own country, NATO would have left them the fuck alone as they had done for nearly a goddamned century.
NATO is always seeking allies against aggression. It was literally created to prevent the rise and warmongering of another Nazi Germany.NATO was trying hard to get Ukraine as a member.
Probably because Russia is another Nazi Germany. Anyone who sees smaller, 'weaker' nations working together as a threat is the bad guy. Notice how the US doesn't give a fuck about other nations forming coalitions, alliances, pacts, etc? Besides that, Putin's master plan to push back NATO is to attack a neighbor that's bordering NATO? The only two possibilities is either he borders NATO because he won, or he borders NATO because he lost. Big brain move there.And if this is the case, then Putin says its a threat. He sees it that way and many Russians see it that way.
All I’ve asked of you is to have some basic consistency. When confronted with that you said you didn’t want to.No one pays me for posting. I am surprised the Forum Director would even ask such a question.
I guess you people have let the Russia hoax thing really get to you.
I actually do not post much to this site and based on what I see here, that trend will continue.
Ukraine cannot be a NATO country according to Russia's foreign policy. That's what they decided. If you continue to ignore that, there will be conflict ... hence conflict in Ukraine. Simple as that.
I am trying to give you the reality of the situation, not whether I agree or not.
Russian aggression against it's neighbors is pushing countries to join NATO that are nearby Russia. Look at what both Sweden and Finland decided after decades of staying out of NATO because of Russian aggression.