They find a way to think they are the victims even when they are invading other people.It's literally unbelievable the mindset of Ruzzians.
What nation are we building? Ukraine was a nation prior to Russia invading. We are helping a nation defend itself.L
You seem very upset with people pointing out problems with your logic.
Regardless, I guess that means you won’t be wasting anyone else’s time either so we all win!
Reasonable question - What is the US gaining out of supporting Ukraine?Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.
Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.
The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.
To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
You think your taxes goes up cause excess inventory goes to Ukraine instead of paying for dismantling? For the increased domestic production of shells? Economic stimulus?Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.
Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.
The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.
To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
a sad day, but thank you for showing the inevitable. No point in hiding the truth.It took two years but the Russians finally got one. And it's not on the 3rd story of an apartment building lol.
Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
Recent comments from EU officials, government pledges, and independent purchases indicate if all identified available shells are delivered Ukraine could receive over 2M shells in 2024.
This would be more than sufficient for defensive operations.
Putin’s gonna need a lot of bodies.
To poop on him?ICC issues arrest warrants for top Russian military officials over targeting infrastructure in Ukraine
Almost exactly one year ago, the court issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and another senior official on charges of abducting children.
by Molly Quell
Maybe we can send that TV Dog guy after them.
Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
Yep, Lots of tech and capabilities for WWII got tested in the Spanish civil war.US is also getting a really good look into all kinds of Russian, Iranian, and NK capabilities. This will influence the next iteration of weapons development into even more effective systems.
Welcome to the thread bud. Always good to see outsiders come in here and disrupt the groupthink.
I completely agree with you. The reason we ‘pay’ for it is for one reason: To TRY and weaken Russia. That is the only reason. If it were actually about helping Ukraine reclaim their territory, NATO would have boots on the ground already in Ukraine. But since NATO is too chickenshit to go to war with Russia or any other country with a decent military like Iran, they will use proxies.
For example, NATO is getting attacked daily by the Houthi’s, who get arms from Iran and they refuse to confront Iran, in the same way they refuse to confront Russia head-on. They will go in and invade smaller countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, but won’t touch Iran, Russia, China or even North Korea because they know they will get their asses handed to them by any country with a decent military. Hell they got their asses handed to them by the Taliban, a military without a single boat, tank or plane. Actually they do have some of those things now, considering the US left some of that equipment behind when the Taliban gave the US the boot for good. So you can see why NATO would be cautious about getting directly involved….
At the end of the day once this is all over, Ukraine will be left a failed rump state, NATO will be humiliated, the Russian Federation will have expanded its territory, and the war mongers in this thread will have a collective meltdown.
Knowing the Russians, they will make a national holiday out of it, and no doubt the Russians will be parading some of that NATO junk like Abrams tanks down the Red Square during their victory parade.
Welcome to the thread bud. Always good to see outsiders come in here and disrupt the groupthink.
I completely agree with you. The reason we ‘pay’ for it is for one reason: To TRY and weaken Russia. That is the only reason. If it were actually about helping Ukraine reclaim their territory, NATO would have boots on the ground already in Ukraine. But since NATO is too chickenshit to go to war with Russia or any other country with a decent military like Iran, they will use proxies.
For example, NATO is getting attacked daily by the Houthi’s, who get arms from Iran and they refuse to confront Iran, in the same way they refuse to confront Russia head-on. They will go in and invade smaller countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, but won’t touch Iran, Russia, China or even North Korea because they know they will get their asses handed to them by any country with a decent military. Hell they got their asses handed to them by the Taliban, a military without a single boat, tank or plane. Actually they do have some of those things now, considering the US left some of that equipment behind when the Taliban gave the US the boot for good. So you can see why NATO would be cautious about getting directly involved….
At the end of the day once this is all over, Ukraine will be left a failed rump state, NATO will be humiliated, the Russian Federation will have expanded its territory, and the war mongers in this thread will have a collective meltdown.
Knowing the Russians, they will make a national holiday out of it, and no doubt the Russians will be parading some of that NATO junk like Abrams tanks down the Red Square during their victory parade.
Somebody finally notice this strange arm/hand thing he does. It drives me F n nuts. Actually, anything with his voice is so irritating.Your attempt at being a comedian is so funny I want to sue you for the cheek cramps I'm getting because I can't stop laughing at the way you're trying to pull off an impersonation of this guy named Donald Trump. Pretty good job of it I have to admit. You just need more practice on your accordion skills and you're going to sell out at the Kremlin Komedy Klub. Everybody knows this, believe me.
My favorite part in this hilariously delusional rant (Russia has SECRET ACTUALLY GOOD ARMY) was that you've trying to convince yourself/us that the warmongers are the people fighting AGAINST the genocidal invaders.Welcome to the thread bud. Always good to see outsiders come in here and disrupt the groupthink.
I completely agree with you. The reason we ‘pay’ for it is for one reason: To TRY and weaken Russia. That is the only reason. If it were actually about helping Ukraine reclaim their territory, NATO would have boots on the ground already in Ukraine. But since NATO is too chickenshit to go to war with Russia or any other country with a decent military like Iran, they will use proxies.
For example, NATO is getting attacked daily by the Houthi’s, who get arms from Iran and they refuse to confront Iran, in the same way they refuse to confront Russia head-on. They will go in and invade smaller countries like Iraq, Libya, Syria, but won’t touch Iran, Russia, China or even North Korea because they know they will get their asses handed to them by any country with a decent military. Hell they got their asses handed to them by the Taliban, a military without a single boat, tank or plane. Actually they do have some of those things now, considering the US left some of that equipment behind when the Taliban gave the US the boot for good. So you can see why NATO would be cautious about getting directly involved….
At the end of the day once this is all over, Ukraine will be left a failed rump state, NATO will be humiliated, the Russian Federation will have expanded its territory, and the war mongers in this thread will have a collective meltdown.
Knowing the Russians, they will make a national holiday out of it, and no doubt the Russians will be parading some of that NATO junk like Abrams tanks down the Red Square during their victory parade.
My favorite part in this hilariously delusional rant (Russia has SECRET ACTUALLY GOOD ARMY) was that you've trying to convince yourself/us that the warmongers are the people fighting AGAINST the genocidal invaders.