Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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dainthomas

Lifer
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That's such an amazing sentence to read. I mean, we're talking primary school level of education here.

The U.S is such a non-empire that it only has bases across every continent, dominant political and economic influence over only 4 of them, and its currency is only the global reserve currency.

Edit: let me guess, this isn't an empire it all, it's just big ol' american LOVE and the americans are so nice and love the world so much, they just had to set this all up for them. Out of friendship. No imperial interests tied to it.
This is amazing, I haven't felt this young in ages, you have not the slightest notion of what's going on.

Empire? You keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it means. Something lost in translation?

No country is required to host a US base. Even the Philippines told us to take a hike 30 years ago. Of course now they want us back with China encroaching.
 

Mahboi

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Empire? You keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it means.
What's funny is that I do, but let's hear your take first since you're claiming that I don't.
What do you think makes an empire?
No country is required to host a US base. Even the Philippines told us to take a hike 30 years ago. Of course now they want us back with China encroaching.
Yes I remember Afghanistan, Iraq, Germany, Italy, they all "volunteered" in 2002, 2003, 1945 and 1943.
 
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fskimospy

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What's funny is that I do, but let's hear your take first since you're claiming that I don't.
What do you think makes an empire?
Your map was almost comically inaccurate. Have you taken any time to consider why you posted something so wrong?
 

Mahboi

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Corrected for accuracy
Just as a last effort: you know your sarcasm and constant insults aren't going to get you anything, right?
All you've been doing is deny, mock and insult. All it's doing is confirming that you have no argument here, just vitriol and the pure arrogance of believing that only your POV is acceptable.
 

fskimospy

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Just as a last effort: you know your sarcasm and constant insults aren't going to get you anything, right?
All you've been doing is deny, mock and insult. All it's doing is confirming that you have no argument here, just vitriol and the pure arrogance of believing that only your POV is acceptable.
Have you considered answering even a single argument made against you?

Here’s a hint. If you’re trying to make your bullshit more credible it’s smart to make some modest efforts like this. You then do the same lies you’re doing now but by engaging you create a fog of plausibility.

Why do I need to instruct you on how to be a better liar? I hope your boss puts you on a PiP.
 
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brycejones

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Just as a last effort: you know your sarcasm and constant insults aren't going to get you anything, right?
All you've been doing is deny, mock and insult. All it's doing is confirming that you have no argument here, just vitriol and the pure arrogance of believing that only your POV is acceptable.

You get what you give here. You have given nothing but bullshit and refuse to engage in substantive way from your first post in this thread. We see you for what you are and it’s funny watching you attempt to shit post your way to credibility. It doesn’t work on this forum.
 
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cytg111

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Just as a last effort: you know your sarcasm and constant insults aren't going to get you anything, right?
All you've been doing is deny, mock and insult. All it's doing is confirming that you have no argument here, just vitriol and the pure arrogance of believing that only your POV is acceptable.
I dont know about that, the rest of us find it pretty funny and are collectively laughing at your pathetic disillusions.
You be the subject of involuntary entertainment. Nothing much you can do about it. We will get bored with you in a minute though, dont worry about it.
 

Jaskalas

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"One does not have to be a fan of Putin to want a negotiated treaty."

One does not negotiate with a maniacal monster.
You can, actually. At the point of a gun.

To create a REAL ceasefire, and not just an excuse for Russia to fix its army, NATO would have to move into Ukraine as a direct result of the ceasefire. To guarantee that it continues. To arm Ukraine.
The moment Russia says no to NATO, and no to arming Ukraine, you KNOW the ceasefire is a lie and Russia merely wants to buy time to better organize its Genocidal push into Europe.
 

Jaskalas

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As mentioned before, these low flying drone attacks of Ukraine are meant to distract, to create a narrative and to possibly hurt Putin's image. But these are not a real military move, strategically speaking.
Making you beg for gas from Belarus and Kazakhstan isn't a real move?
 

kage69

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Half a million Russians taken out of the fight. Their army hacked down to less than 50% of it's pre war strength. The Black Sea Fleet is nearly useless and what's left of it hides to stay alive. Crimea is on a 'skeleton crew,' and under threat of isolation with one good assault.

All for what, ~19% of Ukraine after 2+ years? Frankly, that's fucking embarrassing, especially compared to what American combined arms warfare does, often easily. The waste of Russian life thus far is unheard of the modern age, there's no real reforming that. Some of those pushes on Avdiivka were almost completely mowed down by Brads of the 47th, the carnage at times was right out of some chain shot riddled Napoleonic battle, just horrible. Remember too a lot of them were shot by their own guys if they fell back, really sad. I know I talk a lot of shit about Yuri, but I still feel bad for the mobiki who couldn't escape Russia when the gettin was good, who have nothing against Ukraine but get sent to die in the meat waves.

It's a pity another half million will need to die before people in Russia start getting really mad. Really makes you wonder, how many millions of Russians need to die so mafia can keep robbing them while a third of the country keeps pining for indoor plumbing? How many until the Russian people start doing something?

2.5 - 3million is my guess. We'll see.
 
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Muse

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Wall of text is coming, sorry apologies. But sometimes it has to be done.

Cluster munitions are old I believe of US - many are duds. I will quote CNN here, so to assure of no bias:

CNN article


Russia appears on track to produce nearly three times more artillery munitions than the US and Europe, a key advantage ahead of what is expected to be another Russian offensive in Ukraine later this year.

Russia is producing about 250,000 artillery munitions per month, or about 3 million a year, according to NATO intelligence estimates of Russian defense production shared with CNN, as well as sources familiar with Western efforts to arm Ukraine. Collectively, the US and Europe have the capacity to generate only about 1.2 million munitions annually to send to Kyiv, a senior European intelligence official told CNN.

The US military set a goal to produce 100,000 rounds of artillery a month by the end of 2025 — less than half of the Russian monthly output — and even that number is now out of reach with $60 billion in Ukraine funding stalled in Congress, a senior Army official told reporters last week.

The US and its allies have given Ukraine a number of highly sophisticated systems, including the M-1 Abrams tank and, soon, F-16 fighter jets. But military analysts say the war will likely be won or lost based on who fires the most artillery shells.

“The number one issue that we’re watching right now is the munitions,” the NATO official said. “It’s those artillery shells, because that’s where Russia really [is] mounting a significant production advantage and mounting a significant advantage on the battlefield.”


Russian factories working very hard while, as you say, US is "ramping" up. How long does ramping up take? By that time, Ukraine will lose more towns and cities, making is harder to reclaim them. Also, as the article mentions and I have pointed on here, Russia is having more success targeting Ukraine's military targets - including weapons production targets. Just adding to the shortage of Ukraine.

Look at map of Avdiivka:





Russia totally surrounding the city, capturing it and now taking more towns. Even as we are speaking towns are being fought over and eventually being captured. How long can Kharkov stay Ukrainian?

I am surprised to see such artillery shells shortfalls of US that they have begged countries such as South Korea and Pakistan for them. $1 trillion in annual budget can buy fancy jets but not enough artillery shells. Going forward, maybe the military industrial complex can think security for US instead of massive profits. This might also be good for the US taxpayers.
Propagandist.
 

Mahboi

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You get what you give here.
I posted facts and observations that sustained a logic.
All I got in response is:
just look at this fucking cvnt.
It's easier to just put him on ignore. Then you don't even need to type 'Bah'.
Propagandist.
you fuckwit.
Seriously dumb as a fucking post.
So name calling and repeating the same propaganda. And I muted at least 5 people whose entire conversation before I even posted anything was already insults.

Your general understanding of the situation isn't poor, you just don't want to understand the situation.
A typical case of "as long as I scream the same falsehood louder, the other party will have to submit".

Well, you can go back to that circus without me.

Your prattling won't change a thing.
Ukraine will lose, the U.S Empire is on the way down in an extremely brutal way in the next 10 years. Maybe 15 if things go slow. Russia has achieved all strategic objectives and it wasn't even difficult for them. You've lost in every way as I explained here:

There is not much to add except how this sad charade will unroll and massacre however many Ukrainians for nothing (and a lot of Russian soldiers on top of it), and since you've been offered wisdom and responded with insults, I won't bother. You can all prattle on for another 36000 messages, then get fed some final message of propaganda by your incompetent leadership, about how "this Ukrainian general betrayed" or "Zelensky abandoned his people" or "it was the fault of the Chinese" or whatever piñata they'll go to beat to not get blamed themselves.
Enjoy your giant lie. And don't forget to insult me again for giving actual information.
 
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kage69

Lifer
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I guess no one told rail about all the new shell production coming online, how that doesn't happen quickly. But yes,' fancy jets' actual 5th gen stealth, rather than bullshit shoddy Su-57s or the CheckMate pipe-dream.

Not just fancy, but 500 of them in Europe by 2030 Pentagon has started to send F-35s to Poland.

NATO will have all the artillery rounds and stealth it needs I'll wager, should Russia do something even dumber than invading Ukraine.
 
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