Call it what you will, as you obviously intend to, but "generally", in your argument, is the key word that diminishes your own argument.
And the street-level action that you speak of amounts to nothing more than your basic, unlawful "riot" or "lynch mob".
The fact & definition of coup in the Ukraine remain clear, regardless of your lipstick-on-a-pig painting.
This is great. If this were a coup why is the vast majority of the Ukrainian govt still in power?
I think if you take the time to honestly look at what coup means you will see that my description of it is pretty good. An overthrow by street protesters is generally not considered a coup.
If you're just interested in framing this in a way that is convenient to you, you won't do that.
It is when the government stays the same and a western puppet is installed as PM.
But when a Russian puppet is installed as the ruler of Crimea that's totally fine.
In a vacuum, no. In light of what is happening in larger Ukraine, yes.
In a vacuum, no. In light of what is happening in larger Ukraine, yes.
Why am I not surprised in the slightest.
Many coups begin internally. Don't make it anything less than a coup.
There is an attempt to overthrow the President and install an acting/imposter.... that is a coup.
President Yanokovych did the right thing to temporarily flee to a safe haven in the midst of this.
So in your mind, its just fine for the US to finance a 'revolution' in Ukraine, but if Russia does it in Crimea, suddenly something horrible has happened?
So in your mind, its just fine for the US to finance a 'revolution' in Ukraine, but if Russia does it in Crimea, suddenly something horrible has happened?
Nice framing attempt. There is no comparison between the actions of the west and the actions of Russia in Ukraine.
SO really, your just upset that Russia wasn't sneaky about it. Glad we cleared that up.
The bigger curiosity in this discussion is what removed lives do people need to live to reach the mindset that Russia is entitled to do what they do.
The bigger curiosity in this discussion is what removed lives do people need to live to reach the mindset that Russia is entitled to do what they do.
Lives that consist of RT sodomizing their brains 24/7
Russia is only defending itself agaisnt the EU financed-gay-nazi-homo-fascist-church burning-rapist conspirators who are trying to rule the Ukraine.
No, really. That's what Russians are being brainwashed with.
Without getting into the "why" part of this all, the discussion back and forth as is, is pointless, and void of any intellectual gain.
But like the one user has his location set to New York, which I would assume to be true, what makes someone from New York who has access to all the various media outlets, has personal experiences of what it is like to live in the United States, believe these kinds of things? That's the part of the thread that peaks my curiosity.
The end goal of "the west" is for the citizens of Ukraine to control their future.
The end goal of Russia is for Russia to control their future.
There is no comparison.
The chagossians have been clamoring the US to return their island since 1973.. We have the "america fuck yeah" crowd silent about that.. Talk about mental masturbation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depopulation_of_Chagossians_from_the_Chagos_Archipelago
The end goal of "the west" is for the citizens of Ukraine to control their future.