Russia wants '100% proof' N.Korea sunk ship

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MotF Bane

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Honestly I think US sank SK ship. The evidence provided by US was somewhat silly. German made torpedo with Korean writing where Korean number 1 was spelled out very badly I might add. If NK wanted to hide the fact or even deny the fact why put writing in their torpedo and spell it like a foreigner would spell it? What's up with German torpedo? Here I thought US and her allies use German torpedo.

Look at all the American muppets chanting NK regime change. That's proof enough US was behind the attack to point their fingers NK.

You still haven't offered WHY the United States would sink the South Korean ship. As ever, who benefits? A war is not considered beneficial, and Obama doesn't need that kind of trouble. Our military is stretched thin, and South Korea will get hurt badly. Also, USA uses American built torpedoes, not German; several of our allies use our torpedo design as well For that matter, according to the original BBC article, the NK used a torpedo they manufactured, and the marking matched another previous example.
 

AzN

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Let's make a deal.

You go back to Korea and then we'll talk about removing our troops.

How about you go back to where ever your race of mixed ancestry came from and I'll make sure I go back if you move your troops. That I would do in a heart beat. :hmm:
 

AzN

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I should edit my comment to non violent regime change in North Korea. The fact is that its only China that keeps Kim Jong IL in power, and without Chinese support, the North Korean government would collapse like a house of cards.

As it is this incident comes at the correct moment in history, Kim Jong IL is dying, and if left alone, the North Korea government would be led by Kim's unknown 20 something year old son, or fall to a military takeover. The latter could not succeed without Chinese complicity and would solve little, letting sonny boy to follow in his daddy's footsteps would also solve nothing for China, and the other option of China simply annexing North Korea would not set well with the rest of the world.

For China, the best option might be for Sonny boy to take over, have China advocate a
a Korean unification under South Korea, have China and the West bribe South Korea to undertake a Marshall type plan to modernize North Korea, and then it becomes a win win win for everyone. Sonny boy gets some political plum post with all the ribbons he can cut, and China becomes an international good guy while gaining economic ties and trade relations with all its neighbors while losing a loose Canon on its borders.

Or alternately, China might work with Sonny boy, demand that North Korea get a civilian international trade based economy, and China still wins and everyone else wins also.

The only lose lose situation we now have is the current North Korean failed State that not only can't feed its own people, it also benefits none of its neighbors.

Every day you and your war criminals whine about other countries. Oh this country is not pro US and that. Anyone not talking good shit about US is well crazy. For your Christ sakes just do it. Stop being a nation of gay parading pansies. You had no problem invading Iraq but what's stopping you from NK? You need an OK from Russia and China but you don't need a OK to invade Iraq or any other middle East countries you've been setting up shop.

If the United States is so strong and better than Russia and China, and if the NK military is so weak, and South Korea is so rich and powerful, Why doesn't the US backed South Korea attack the North or US attack NK?

Let me make a wild guess here. US like beating up weak little countries and setting up puppet regimes in those countries that doesn't border Russia and China. Face it. Americans are just pansies who wants to feel strong by attacking little countries that doesn't border Russia and China. You learned the hard way in 20th century when you had non-direct contact with these 2 countries. Your policies are a joke and so are most Americans. :hmm:
 

Nebor

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The number of remote controlled MLRS and GMLRS arranged around South Korea, capable of firing simultaneously within 1 minute of the command being sent is staggering. It would be like reliving the "shock and awe" moments of Gulf War I when the world was amazed by the barrage of Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from Navy missile frigates.

That said, a war isn't in anyone's interest. There's nothing in NK worth destroying or occupying. Just let the people starve until they get up the gumption to overthrow Kim. Cut off food aid to accelerate the process. I'm sure AzN wants us to stop our evil, imperialistic food charity organizations immediately.
 

Cogman

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Every day you and your war criminals whine about other countries. Oh this country is not pro US and that. Anyone not talking good shit about US is well crazy. For your Christ sakes just do it. Stop being a nation of gay parading pansies. You had no problem invading Iraq but what's stopping you from NK? You need an OK from Russia and China but you don't need a OK to invade Iraq or any other middle East countries you've been setting up shop.

If the United States is so strong and better than Russia and China, and if the NK military is so weak, and South Korea is so rich and powerful, Why doesn't the US backed South Korea attack the North or US attack NK?

Let me make a wild guess here. US like beating up weak little countries and setting up puppet regimes in those countries that doesn't border Russia and China. Face it. Americans are just pansies who wants to feel strong by attacking little countries that doesn't border Russia and China. You learned the hard way in 20th century when you had non-direct contact with these 2 countries. Your policies are a joke and so are most Americans. :hmm:
man, I haven't had a good laugh in a long time. Don't forget that the US is secretly hiding UFO's and that Kim is really a united states citizen that shot Kennedy, but GOP has been hiding it for years with their secrete order of the claw.

What do we have to gain with attacking NK? A stable or unstable NK doesn't make a bit of difference to the US. They haven't really done a whole lot in the world. A stable Iraq and Afghanistan, on the other hand, have far reaching effects for the whole world.
 

Narmer

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The reason why they want "100% proof" may be because of this:

In a separate report, a senior source in Russia's navy suggested that Moscow was unhappy about being excluded from the lengthy multinational investigation into the sinking of the Cheonan, a 1,200-tonne corvette.

Also, there is no doubt that North Korea and China met on May 4, 2010 to get their stories straight when talking to the world. NK probably wanted, and got, China's backing during that visit.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6430EA20100504
 

bfdd

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Every day you and your war criminals whine about other countries. Oh this country is not pro US and that. Anyone not talking good shit about US is well crazy. For your Christ sakes just do it. Stop being a nation of gay parading pansies. You had no problem invading Iraq but what's stopping you from NK? You need an OK from Russia and China but you don't need a OK to invade Iraq or any other middle East countries you've been setting up shop.

If the United States is so strong and better than Russia and China, and if the NK military is so weak, and South Korea is so rich and powerful, Why doesn't the US backed South Korea attack the North or US attack NK?

Let me make a wild guess here. US like beating up weak little countries and setting up puppet regimes in those countries that doesn't border Russia and China. Face it. Americans are just pansies who wants to feel strong by attacking little countries that doesn't border Russia and China. You learned the hard way in 20th century when you had non-direct contact with these 2 countries. Your policies are a joke and so are most Americans. :hmm:

Lol, you're asking why we're trying to be diplomatic in one thing when we weren't in the other? Then you call us pussies for not trying to start world war 3? You're a moron.
 

Jaskalas

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How about you go back to where ever your race of mixed ancestry came from and I'll make sure I go back if you move your troops. That I would do in a heart beat. :hmm:

Hitler liked pure bloods too, you know where that leads.
 

palehorse

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Let me make a wild guess here. US like beating up weak little countries and setting up puppet regimes in those countries that doesn't border Russia and China. Face it. Americans are just pansies who wants to feel strong by attacking little countries that doesn't border Russia and China.
Hey genius, Afghanistan has a border with China. You should have stayed in school...

That said, we don't need or want to "attack" any others when half of the countries surrounding Russia and China are already our allies. Ain't that a bitch?

We also want to maintain good relations with Russia and China as they, unlike NK, have demonstrated at least a modicum of civility and progress over the last 50 years.

NK, on the other hand, is one of the most backwards and worthless nations on the planet... and getting worse every day.
You learned the hard way in 20th century when you had non-direct contact with these 2 countries. Your policies are a joke and so are most Americans. :hmm:
What nationality are you?
 
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Corn

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You don't have the guts to ban him! :twisted:

You do not have the right to taunt moderators here and this is not your first or second time doing so. Enjoy your time off. We will.

Perknose
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I'm pretty sure that was tongue in cheek and not a true taunt.
 

palehorse

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I'm pretty sure that was tongue in cheek and not a true taunt.
I read it as a joke as well.

oh well, maybe FNE will get some time outside with that thing they call a "sun," or something like that...

/shrug
 

CPA

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Honestly I think US sank SK ship. The evidence provided by US was somewhat silly. German made torpedo with Korean writing where Korean number 1 was spelled out very badly I might add. If NK wanted to hide the fact or even deny the fact why put writing in their torpedo and spell it like a foreigner would spell it? What's up with German torpedo? Here I thought US and her allies use German torpedo.

Look at all the American muppets chanting NK regime change. That's proof enough US was behind the attack to point their fingers NK.

So, what you're saying is that Obama is a War Hawk.......
 

al981

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gulf of tonkin. jfk. 9/11. mlk. oklahoma city. twa flight 800. overthrow of iran democracy. iraq 2. nobody believes america. and for good reason
 

Cogman

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gulf of tonkin. jfk. 9/11. mlk. oklahoma city. twa flight 800. overthrow of iran democracy. iraq 2. nobody believes america. and for good reason
Yes yes, the us government planned it all! Whats more, britan and Cuba are in on it. Not to mention the jews! I have proof the Albert Einstein was secretly in cohoots with hitler during world war 2. They started a revolution in the united states and took over from the inside. Obama is actually hitlers illegitimate son from one of jeffersons origional slaves and the order of the squirl. There's Proof! just look at the gulf spill!
 

al981

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Yes yes, the us government planned it all! Whats more, britan and Cuba are in on it. Not to mention the jews! I have proof the Albert Einstein was secretly in cohoots with hitler during world war 2. They started a revolution in the united states and took over from the inside. Obama is actually hitlers illegitimate son from one of jeffersons origional slaves and the order of the squirl. There's Proof! just look at the gulf spill!

i love a clueless denier spouting nonsense when confronted with admitted lies
 

MotF Bane

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gulf of tonkin. jfk. 9/11. mlk. oklahoma city. twa flight 800. overthrow of iran democracy. iraq 2. nobody believes america. and for good reason

You believe that a democratically elected government (a new group of idiots every few years), with widely known incompetence, with a nosy media that loves to spill any secret it can find, has somehow kept the truth of all the above listed events secret from all but a handful of dedicated video-editing blogging young socially disaffected men living in their mother's basements?
 

Cogman

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i love a clueless denier spouting nonsense when confronted with admitted lies
Oh, these are admitted? Please, enlighten me. Show me the press release where the US government said they assassinated JFK (Or even one that says Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do it.) Heck, show me a press release for ANY of the crazy stuff you and AZN are spouting.

Good luck.
 

Cogman

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You believe that a democratically elected government (a new group of idiots every few years), with widely known incompetence, with a nosy media that loves to spill any secret it can find, has somehow kept the truth of all the above listed events secret from all but a handful of dedicated video-editing blogging young socially disaffected men living in their mother's basements?
I told you, hilter has been secretly controlling everything for years. After all, they never found his body!
 

al981

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Oh, these are admitted? Please, enlighten me. Show me the press release where the US government said they assassinated JFK (Or even one that says Lee Harvey Oswald didn't do it.) Heck, show me a press release for ANY of the crazy stuff you and AZN are spouting.

Good luck.

you are clueless: confirmed.

multiple bullet holes in jfk's limo not admitted by the government = proof of cover-up and a conspiracy. doctors who opereated on jfk are also on record (nova) saying jfk's wounds were altered after they initially operated on him. sup coverup!

gulf of tonkin: declassified docs and an admitted lie. why didn't you know?

oklahoma city: numerous news footage reports of john does and confiscated security cameras, which still are not being made public LOL. heavy evidence of coverup. sup liars!

overthrow of iran's democracy: admitted on the CIA's own website. lol at you for not knowing. ignorant much?

twa flight 800: too much evidence to list. even the government "witnesses" and twa employees are claiming cover-up. look it up ^^

9/11: too easy, but keep on denyin for your own peace of mind two words: norman mineta. wait here's another. wtc7.

mlk: jury finds us government and agencies guilty in mlk conspiracy. unanimous verdict LOL. king family rejoices. funny how the american media went silent again.

rkf: the mainstream media actually covered this one!: "new audio evidence emerges of possible rfk second shooter".

iraq 2: sup wmd liars!
 

al981

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You believe that a democratically elected government (a new group of idiots every few years), with widely known incompetence, with a nosy media that loves to spill any secret it can find, has somehow kept the truth of all the above listed events secret from all but a handful of dedicated video-editing blogging young socially disaffected men living in their mother's basements?

i believe that ignorant people like yourself continue to fantasize about a us government that tells the truth and commits no wrong. as listed 1 post above, you are wrong
 

al981

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This coming from a truther? Do you know what the word "admitted" even means? Doesn't look that way.

says the liar and fact denier? the us government has already admitted it lied and initially covered up a few of the events i listed.

try again.
 

Cogman

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you are clueless: confirmed.

multiple bullet holes in jfk's limo not admitted by the government = proof of cover-up and a conspiracy. doctors who opereated on jfk are also on record (nova) saying jfk's wounds were altered after they initially operated on him. sup coverup!
Not admitted.

gulf of tonkin: declassified docs and an admitted lie. why didn't you know?
Honestly. Not exactly the most important event in history.

[qoute]oklahoma city: numerous news footage reports of john does and confiscated security cameras, which still are not being made public LOL. heavy evidence of coverup. sup liars![/quote]
Lol, you fail at english. NOT admitted. You have a consperiacy theory without any evidence to back it up "Oh noes, someone that wasn't Identified was on the scene!"

overthrow of iran's democracy: admitted on the CIA's own website. lol at you for not knowing. ignorant much?
Link much?

twa flight 800: too much evidence to list. even the government "witnesses" and twa employees are claiming cover-up. look it up ^^
Idiot. People saw something in the sky and claim it was a missile. That is NOT evidence. Human memory is unreliable.

9/11: too easy, but keep on denyin for your own peace of mind two words: norman mineta. wait here's another. wtc7.
Now I know your retarded. Tell me, Why and How.

mlk: jury finds us government and agencies guilty in mlk conspiracy. unanimous verdict LOL. king family rejoices. funny how the american media went silent again.
Link?

rkf: the mainstream media actually covered this one!: "new audio evidence emerges of possible rfk second shooter".
rfk?

iraq 2: sup wmd liars!
Yep, no wmd.

You'll notice in all your inane babbling, you didn't ONCE link to any thing "admitted" (though tonkin was admitted in official reports, you still didn't bother to actually link to it. I never figured it as a "cover up" as it lasted what, a couple of years?)

Let me repeat my request, Show me a link to a press release by the US government "admitting" to the coverups.

They can't keep a senitor with his pants down a secret for more then a week, what makes you think they have the ability to keep half this stuff secret for 40+ years?
 
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