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al981

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You are a genius -- seriously, Forrest Gump has nothing on you. What government hasn't lied about things? I'll be waiting (in vain) for an answer to that.

I am interested in discussing your specific list (specifically, the assertions regarding 9/11 and flight 800). I'll be waiting for reputable links.

again, i'm not spoon feeding you any links. if you're interested in doing your own research, then go for it my points still stand. the us has no credibility. i don't care what credibility other countries have or don't have.
 

IndyColtsFan

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again, i'm not spoon feeding you any links. if you're interested in doing your own research, then go for it my points still stand. the us has no credibility. i don't care what credibility other countries have or don't have.

You have no credibility. Thanks for playing. I did not ask you for links; I asked you for REPUTABLE links. Since you can't provide them, I can only assume you googled 9/11 truth, read the first few wingnut hits, and consider those credible. Or you read abovetopsecret.com (good for laughs, by the way).
 

al981

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You have no credibility. Thanks for playing. I did not ask you for links; I asked you for REPUTABLE links. Since you can't provide them, I can only assume you googled 9/11 truth, read the first few wingnut hits, and consider those credible. Or you read abovetopsecret.com (good for laughs, by the way).

i have all the credibility. you can't handle someone with credibility calling out the united states of america for it's lies and deceit, so now you want to mouth off and not do any research. that is your problem
 

manowar821

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You have no credibility. Thanks for playing. I did not ask you for links; I asked you for REPUTABLE links. Since you can't provide them, I can only assume you googled 9/11 truth, read the first few wingnut hits, and consider those credible. Or you read abovetopsecret.com (good for laughs, by the way).

I don't think anyone has time to be spoon-feeding your type anything, considering all you do is spit it back out like a little baby. Get back in line, it's easy, and it's what you're good at.
 

IndyColtsFan

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i have all the credibility. you can't handle someone with credibility calling out the united states of america for it's lies and deceit, so now you want to mouth off and not do any research. that is your problem

What credibility do you have exactly? Please explain it. People who make claims and refuse to back them up (as you have repeatedly done) have no credibility. When you can provide reputable sources, I will be happy to read them and decide for myself. A link to wingnutdaily.com is not proof.
 

al981

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What credibility do you have exactly? Please explain it. People who make claims and refuse to back them up (as you have repeatedly done) have no credibility. When you can provide reputable sources, I will be happy to read them and decide for myself. A link to wingnutdaily.com is not proof.

claim: the us has lied its ass off in the past.
support #1 of 500: overthrow of iran's democracy.
claim validated. credibility ++.

if you want a full blown discussion on the other numerous events i posted, then go start your own thread (which the mods will then lock).

again, i'm not providing jack for you. go do your homework, kid!
 
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IndyColtsFan

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if you want a full blown discussion on the other numerous events i posted, then go start your own thread (which the mods will then lock).

Why would they lock it? Please, I'm all ears.

By the way:

1. Mars is the fourth planet from the sun.
2. The sun is hollow.
3. The earth is hollow.
4. Pink elepants fly around at night.

See? I have credibility too! Because the first claim I made is right, so the others must be too! I couldn't have possibly made those up, could I?
 

al981

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Why would they lock it? Please, I'm all ears.

why don't you ask them? you want a full blown discussion, so go make it happen.

By the way:

1. Mars is the fourth planet from the sun.
2. The sun is hollow.
3. The earth is hollow.
4. Pink elepants fly around at night.

See? I have credibility too! Because the first claim I made is right, so the others must be too! I couldn't have possibly made those up, could I?

ah, the little kid can't handle his beloved country getting called out for assassinating its own president in broad daylight and covering it all up, among many other things it's a cruel world out there, i hope you seek proper help do deal with your issues one day. you can play your little game of credibility while my points still stand
 

IndyColtsFan

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ah, the little kid can't handle his beloved country getting called out for assassinating its own president in broad daylight and covering it all up, among many other things

There you have it folks. No further conversation is necessary. The statement above proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a hopeless conspiracy fruitcake. Thanks for playing!

Now, I'll be off to enjoy my last night in Honolulu. Thanks for providing that last quote, as I'm sure everyone got a good laugh.
 

al981

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There you have it folks. No further conversation is necessary. The statement above proves beyond any reasonable doubt that you are a hopeless conspiracy fruitcake. Thanks for playing!

Now, I'll be off to enjoy my last night in Honolulu. Thanks for providing that last quote, as I'm sure everyone got a good laugh.

uh huh. this winner spending his vacation time in honolulu posting in atpn. real winner folks!

since you're a champion of truth, why don't you man up and start a full blown thread discussing all of these events? go and lobby the mods. do you have the guts? mods have always locked them, cmon, let's see what you got kid!

edit: "conspiracy fruitcake"? what? we haven't even had a full discussion yet and you start throwing names? this is the reason i don't post jack for you. you are not interested in evidence or facts, only protecting the image of his country... like a little kid covering his ears
 
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Cheesetogo

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uh huh. this winner spending his vacation time in honolulu posting in atpn. real winner folks!

since you're a champion of truth, why don't you man up and start a full blown thread discussing all of these events? go and lobby the mods. do you have the guts? mods have always locked them, cmon, let's see what you got kid!

edit: "conspiracy fruitcake"? what? we haven't even had a full discussion yet and you start throwing names? this is the reason i don't post jack for you. you are not interested in evidence or facts, only protecting the image of his country... like a little kid covering his ears

When you start talking about how the government had JFK assassinated, you lose pretty much all credibility. It's only been debunked about 5,000,000 times, but I guess that's not good enough for you. And yes, how dare he cover his ears with "logic"!
 

al981

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When you start talking about how the government had JFK assassinated, you lose pretty much all credibility. It's only been debunked about 5,000,000 times, but I guess that's not good enough for you. And yes, how dare he cover his ears with "logic"!

if by debunked you mean throwing out all evidence that contradicts the official story, then sure. i'd love a full blown discussion on another thread to discuss jfk (perhaps you should lobby the mods and start one), but they'd just lock it
 

TechAZ

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if by debunked you mean throwing out all evidence that contradicts the official story, then sure. i'd love a full blown discussion on another thread to discuss jfk (perhaps you should lobby the mods and start one), but they'd just lock it

You are a nutjob, who resides within the lower tier of the population who have a severe mental disorder.

BTW, I forwarded your posts to the FBI. Expect black choppers and wire taps in the near future.
 

al981

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You are a nutjob, who resides within the lower tier of the population who have a severe mental disorder.

BTW, I forwarded your posts to the FBI. Expect black choppers and wire taps in the near future.

you are in denial and are an anti-fact nutjob. haters sup!
 

Kirby

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jfk used nano thermite to kill mlk and the gov flew planes into jfk to shut him up! the moon landing was fake!

 

Cogman

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you are wrong. as cogman already admitted, the us government has already stated it lied about several of the incidents mentioned also stated in post #85, i never said the us government admitted to lying about ALL of the incidents. again, you failed at reading comprehension for the 4th time. try again for number 5, son.
Wait, Wait, Wait. I admitted that TWO of the instances in the 1950's and 1960's were admitted lies (you can look up the documents.) I did NOT say that all were. In fact, I asked you to back up several (Which you deflected and made an ass of yourself.)

The ability to admit your wrong about one thing is being mature and open minded. TWA 800, JFK, MLK, Iraq 2, 911, and whatever other conspiracy theory you latch on to. I want the governments admittance. Which you have failed to provide or even so much as say "Ok, they haven't admitted those."

Since you can't do that, your credibility goes straight to the toilet. Being wrong doesn't nuke your credibility, Its when you are wrong and won't admit it that you lose all credibility.

Anyone in this thread can see EXACTLY what I've said, so I would appreciate you not misrepresenting my stance.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I've found that you can't argue with the conspiracy nuts. No matter what evidence you provide, the response will always be that the government:

1. Provided false data
2. Pressured/threatened members of whatever investigative body into reporting what the government wants reported

This goes for the current NK crisis and it applies to many of the other "conspiracies" al981 listed. The JFK quote was a real hoot. What next -- we didn't land on the moon? LOL

Oh well, they're great for laughs. My favorite is the "Here's a list of X lies/cover-ups; I'm right on the first (Iran is a commonly known one, by the way), so I MUST be right on the others!! I just can't back them up." LOL.
 
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IndyColtsFan

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When you start talking about how the government had JFK assassinated, you lose pretty much all credibility. It's only been debunked about 5,000,000 times, but I guess that's not good enough for you. And yes, how dare he cover his ears with "logic"!

Speaking of JFK, I noticed there is a new Oliver Stone thread. I'm sure al981 will make his way there, as Stone is probably his hero.
 

IndyColtsFan

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uh huh. this winner spending his vacation time in honolulu posting in atpn. real winner folks!

You obviously aren't married, or else you'd know how long it takes some women to pretty themselves up for their last big night on the town and while doing so, AT P&N is a good way for us bored guys to kill time. Reading wingnut theories is always good for laughs!
 

MotF Bane

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You obviously aren't married, or else you'd know how long it takes some women to pretty themselves up for their last big night on the town and while doing so, AT P&N is a good way for us bored guys to kill time. Reading wingnut theories is always good for laughs!

Getting married involves leaving mom's basement.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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correction: i'm concerned with the facts. if you want to equate factualism with truthers, so be it. the facts are on my side, as proven above what do you qualify as nkgreen? liar and anti fact nutjob?

You have not posted a single fact. Hell, you've hardly linked to anything that you're talking about. All you post is inane babbling about conspiracy theories - poorly written babbling, at that.

Your supposed "facts" are all circumstantial evidence based on poor science and speculation. It all stems from a fundamental distrust of anything anyone tells you, except that which appeases your train of thought. Open your eyes - the U.S. government doesn't really have the capacity to hide huge conspiracies for decades. It's far more likely that events like 9/11, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, and others stemmed from poor judgment and misinformation rather than any huge evil plan.
 

al981

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Wait, Wait, Wait. I admitted that TWO of the instances in the 1950's and 1960's were admitted lies (you can look up the documents.) I did NOT say that all were. In fact, I asked you to back up several (Which you deflected and made an ass of yourself.)

oh, so you back pedaled and are now eating crow because you didn't know those two were admittied lies. tell us, how does that crow taste, son?

The ability to admit your wrong about one thing is being mature and open minded. TWA 800, JFK, MLK, Iraq 2, 911, and whatever other conspiracy theory you latch on to. I want the governments admittance. Which you have failed to provide or even so much as say "Ok, they haven't admitted those."

as stated in post #85, I never said all of the items listed were admitted lies. again you FAILED at reading comprehension. your new homework assignment is to go back a page and read the post. report back what you read.

Since you can't do that, your credibility goes straight to the toilet. Being wrong doesn't nuke your credibility, Its when you are wrong and won't admit it that you lose all credibility.

Anyone in this thread can see EXACTLY what I've said, so I would appreciate you not misrepresenting my stance.

I haven't been wrong about anything, and never claimed all of the events listed were admitted lies. you can stop lying now, kid, and tell us how tender that crow tastes.
 

TechAZ

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oh, so you back pedaled and are now eating crow because you didn't know those two were admittied lies. tell us, how does that crow taste, son?



as stated in post #85, I never said all of the items listed were admitted lies. again you FAILED at reading comprehension. your new homework assignment is to go back a page and read the post. report back what you read.



I haven't been wrong about anything, and never claimed all of the events listed were admitted lies. you can stop lying now, kid, and tell us how tender that crow tastes.


Considering the only homework you've ever done is visiting infowars.com, I hardly think you are in a position to act as a teacher. Talk about being spoonfed, son.
 

al981

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I've found that you can't argue with the conspiracy nuts. No matter what evidence you provide, the response will always be that the government:

1. Provided false data
2. Pressured/threatened members of whatever investigative body into reporting what the government wants reported

This goes for the current NK crisis and it applies to many of the other "conspiracies" al981 listed. The JFK quote was a real hoot. What next -- we didn't land on the moon? LOL

Oh well, they're great for laughs. My favorite is the "Here's a list of X lies/cover-ups; I'm right on the first (Iran is a commonly known one, by the way), so I MUST be right on the others!! I just can't back them up." LOL.

I've found morons like you have no interest in the truth, only dodging facts and evidence which destroy your childish fantasy image of your country. welcome to the real world son!

I'm also not about to spoon feed you a bunch of links in a north korea thread. If you really wanted to debate, you'd start your own thread, which the mods would then lock. so far, you haven't lobbied the mods to keep open a new thread for discussion . like i said, you have no interest in discussion, chicken
 

al981

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Considering the only homework you've ever done is visiting infowars.com, I hardly think you are in a position to act as a teacher. Talk about being spoonfed, son.

but i taught cogman a lesson and now he's eating leftover crow. it was a good lesson for him, son. you can join him if you'd like.
 
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