Russian intelligence has 'compromising' info on Trump

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Jhhnn

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Why didn't this come out before the election?

This is kind of a master stroke by the Russians. Release this shit just after the guy is elected and we are stuck with him. Kudos.

If there is a major terrorist attack I would hope that Pence is the one leading the response.

The master stroke was helping him get elected in the first place. Anybody not in awe of what they've accomplished is pretty much brain dead.
 

R0H1T

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The master stroke was helping him get elected in the first place. Anybody not in awe of what they've accomplished is pretty much brain dead.
Of course, if this was the candidate of their choice then why would they release any compromising info on him before he was elected? The more pertinent question would be what do they on the Republican Party, assuming the RNC hacks were legit, because that'd mean now Russia can officially conduct their business via the White house.
 

momeNt

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Now we have Rex Tillerson saying that Russia is a threat to the US. Don't mess with Trump. A Russian insider like Tillerson will probably know exactly how to dismantle Russia.

They dun goofed.

On a second note. I'm glad that American tolerance is weighing in on obscure sexual fetishes. This is why LGBTQIA+, minorities, disabled, or anybody else that can be excluded from some sort of arbitrary "normal" definition will never really be accepted in this country. Because deep down, both liberals and conservatives apply their normative judgments on the people around them. Frankly it's disgusting. We are all uniquely human, and normal doesn't exist, normal is the breeding grounds of exclusion, divisiveness, and just hate in general.
 

Pens1566

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Now we have Rex Tillerson saying that Russia is a threat to the US. Don't mess with Trump. A Russian insider like Tillerson will probably know exactly how to dismantle Russia.

They dun goofed.

On a second note. I'm glad that American tolerance is weighing in on obscure sexual fetishes. This is why LGBTQIA+, minorities, disabled, or anybody else that can be excluded from some sort of arbitrary "normal" definition will never really be accepted in this country. Because deep down, both liberals and conservatives apply their normative judgments on the people around them. Frankly it's disgusting. We are all uniquely human, and normal doesn't exist, normal is the breeding grounds of exclusion, divisiveness, and just hate in general.

Uh, I don't see anyone really condemning the act itself.
 

WelshBloke

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Why doesn't the leaked "intelligence document" have proper headers? Can you or anybody explain this to me?
Why would it?

Its a print out of a PDF, no ones saying that theres one hard copy with security clearance on it that everyone is passing around.
 

Pens1566

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Why doesn't the leaked "intelligence document" have proper headers? Can you or anybody explain this to me?

Well, this :

Why would it?

Its a print out of a PDF, no ones saying that theres one hard copy with security clearance on it that everyone is passing around.

and if you'd read the stories, then you'd know that the 35/36 pg buzzfeed isn't the "intel doc" that was allegedly briefed to POTUS/PE(e)OTUS. That doc was a 2pg distilled version of the contents/subject of the 35/36 pg one.
 

ivwshane

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You folks know this benefits Trump and the GOP.
It's distracting everyone from his nominees. Distracting everyone from GOP shenanigans.
The crap that directly impacts your lives.

Its like they refuse to learn from history. This plays right into trumps hands.
 

Jhhnn

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I put no faith in any of it. OTOH, Trump's reaction to a dose of his own post truth medicine is a glorious thing.
 
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The master stroke was helping him get elected in the first place. Anybody not in awe of what they've accomplished is pretty much brain dead.
They also likely rigged the polls as well so that Hillary wouldn't realize any need to visit WI and MI, told her it was a really good idea to conduct State business from a private server located in her bathroom closet in order to avoid FOIA requests, and told Comey to reopen the email investigation a week prior to the election.

The DNC and Podesta hacks were effectively just confirmation of what everybody already knew about her anyway. The fact of the matter is that Clinton lost this election because she was a horrible, horrible candidate. Worse than Trump if such a thing were possible.

There we're many factors that go well beyond the Russia hacks of the DNC and Podesta that contributed to her loss...with the fundamental reason essentially boiling down to her epic poor judgement and having it bite her in the ass time and time again. Blaming Russia is merely cry-baby deflection away from the cold, hard truth of the matter. And it's high time the left owns up to this reality and puts the blame where the overwhelming majority of the blame actually belongs...squarely on Hillary Rodham Clinton's shoulders.
 
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jackstar7

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They also likely rigged the polls as well so that Hillary wouldn't realize any need to visit WI and MI, told her it was good idea to conduct State business from a private server located in her bathroom closet in order to avoid FOIA requests, and told Comey to reopen the email investigation a week prior to the election.

The DNC and Podesta hacks effectively just confirmed what everybody already knew about her. Clinton lost this election because she was a horrible candidate. Worse than Trump if such a thing were possible.

There we're many factors that go well beyond the Russia hacks of the DNC and Podesta that contributed to her loss...with the primary reason essentially boiling down to her epic poor judgement and have it bite her in the ass time and time again. Blaming Russia is cry-baby deflection. Put the blame where the the vast majority of the blame actually belongs...squarely on Hillary's shoulders.
She lost. Get over it.
 
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momeNt

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They also likely rigged the polls as well so that Hillary wouldn't realize any need to visit WI and MI, told her it was really good idea to conduct State business from a private server located in her bathroom closet in order to avoid FOIA requests, and told Comey to reopen the email investigation a week prior to the election.

The DNC and Podesta hacks effectively just confirmed what everybody already knew about her anyway. The fact of the matter is that Clinton lost this election because she was a horrible candidate. Worse than Trump if such a thing were possible.

There we're many factors that go well beyond the Russia hacks of the DNC and Podesta that contributed to her loss...with the fundamental reason essentially boiling down to her epic poor judgement and having it bite her in the ass time and time again. Blaming Russia is merely cry-baby deflection away from the cold, hard truth of the matter. And it's high time the left owns up to reality and puts the blame where the overwhelming majority of the blame actually belongs...squarely on Hillary Rodham Clinton's shoulders.

But Psy-ops man. Psy-ops!!!!!!
 

Jhhnn

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They also likely rigged the polls as well so that Hillary wouldn't realize any need to visit WI and MI, told her it was good idea to conduct State business from a private server located in her bathroom closet in order to avoid FOIA requests, and told Comey to reopen the email investigation a week prior to the election.

The DNC and Podesta hacks effectively just confirmed what everybody already knew about her anyway. The fact of the matter is that Clinton lost this election because she was a horrible candidate. Worse than Trump if such a thing were possible.

There we're many factors that go well beyond the Russia hacks of the DNC and Podesta that contributed to her loss...with the fundamental reason essentially boiling down to her epic poor judgement and having it bite her in the ass time and time again. Blaming Russia is cry-baby deflection away from the cold, hard truth of the matter. It's high time the left owns up to reality and puts the blame where the vast majority of the blame actually belongs...squarely on Hillary's shoulders.

Most excellent victim blaming & obfuscation. I'm sure that Russian operatives reading comments like you own would feel the warmth of smug satisfaction at a job well done.
 

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Well, this :



and if you'd read the stories, then you'd know that the 35/36 pg buzzfeed isn't the "intel doc" that was allegedly briefed to POTUS/PE(e)OTUS. That doc was a 2pg distilled version of the contents/subject of the 35/36 pg one.

NBC reporting that Obama and Trump were not briefed even on the 2 page summary. The 2 pager was actually used as background info for those giving the brief as an example of disinformation. Guess this is still a non-story.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

Multiple officials say that the summary was included in the material prepared for the briefers, but the senior official told NBC News that the briefing was oral and no actual documents were left with the Trump team in New York. During the briefing, the president-elect was not briefed on the contents of the summary .
...

According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
 
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momeNt

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NBC reporting that Obama and Trump were not briefed even on the 2 page summary. The 2 pager was actually used as background info for those giving the brief as an example of disinformation. Guess this is still a non-story.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/t...jects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586

If that's the case, how did it get out?

Russian psy-ops has infiltrated intelligence agencies so that they actively undermine the president? Can they be charged for treason if they aren't acting of their own free will?
 

jackstar7

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If that's the case, how did it get out?

Russian psy-ops has infiltrated intelligence agencies so that they actively undermine the president? Can they be charged for treason if they aren't acting of their own free will?
Well Trump says the intelligence community is actively working against him.

No problems there, right?
 

momeNt

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Well Trump says the intelligence community is actively working against him.

No problems there, right?

Well help me out here then. I'm having difficulty in how this intelligence report was leaked. What is the explanation? Who in intelligence would leak this report and why? Initially it was thought to be the Russians, now it's not, but that might mean that it was, it's just the Russians are inside our intelligence community.
 

jackstar7

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Well help me out here then. I'm having difficulty in how this intelligence report was leaked. What is the explanation? Who in intelligence would leak this report and why? Initially it was thought to be the Russians, now it's not, but that might mean that it was, it's just the Russians are inside our intelligence community.
Regardless of who leaked it, he is blaming the intelligence community. Is that good for the country and the PEOTUS is in an ongoing fight with the intelligence community, or is that a bad thing for the country?

Get it? You don't know. I don't know. HE doesn't know... but he's found someone to blame, because he's always a victim... the richest and most powerful victim in the world.
 

agent00f

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Agreed. I'm putting it in the category of bullshit that may or may not be true, all or in part.

Good thing he'll be willing to do just about anything to make sure those tapes never see the light of day.

What's absolutely hilarious is if this is somehow fake it's absolutely genius given nobody finds it far fetched given who he is, like it might be for nearly anyone else.
 
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