Russian intelligence has 'compromising' info on Trump

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momeNt

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Regardless of who leaked it, he is blaming the intelligence community. Is that good for the country and the PEOTUS is in an ongoing fight with the intelligence community, or is that a bad thing for the country?

Get it? You don't know. I don't know. HE doesn't know... but he's found someone to blame, because he's always a victim... the richest and most powerful victim in the world.

The intelligence community created the report. Report is now leaked. Intelligence community is to blame either for deliberately leaking it, or negligently leaking it by leaving a circulated copy unaccounted for, or having their system compromised from the outside.

They ARE to blame. Now the next questions is, is there anybody ELSE to blame???
 

bshole

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Good thing he'll be willing to do just about anything to make sure those tapes never see the light of day.

What's absolutely hilarious is if this is somehow fake it's absolutely genius given it's entirely in keeping with what even his minions know about him.

It is genius really. If it is fake, they should have a gone with a gay tryst. Christian conservatives may be able to look the other way for pissing hookers but gay hookups???.... AH HELL NO!!@!!!!@!!
 

fskimospy

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The intelligence community created the report. Report is now leaked. Intelligence community is to blame either for deliberately leaking it, or negligently leaking it by leaving a circulated copy unaccounted for, or having their system compromised from the outside.

They ARE to blame. Now the next questions is, is there anybody ELSE to blame???

Not necessarily, if they shared it with people who were cleared to see and possess it and those were the people who leaded it it's not the IC's responsibility anymore. From my understanding this sort of information has been circulating around for more than 6 months now.

I wouldn't be that surprised if the IC is responsible but they aren't the only possible culprit. I also wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a lot more of this sort of thing under Trump. He might be surprised how much the agencies he ostensibly runs can do to make his life miserable.
 

jackstar7

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The intelligence community created the report. Report is now leaked. Intelligence community is to blame either for deliberately leaking it, or negligently leaking it by leaving a circulated copy unaccounted for, or having their system compromised from the outside.

They ARE to blame. Now the next questions is, is there anybody ELSE to blame???
That's the question? Really?

Nothing relating to the welfare of the country as a whole... just who is to blame. Interesting where your priorities are.
 

bshole

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The intelligence community created the report. Report is now leaked. Intelligence community is to blame either for deliberately leaking it, or negligently leaking it by leaving a circulated copy unaccounted for, or having their system compromised from the outside.

They ARE to blame. Now the next questions is, is there anybody ELSE to blame???

The problem is that the intelligence community knows where the bodies are buried. If Trump goes after them, we are going to find all about Trump's skeletons. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg.
 

cbrunny

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Hilarious if true. I hope it is all true and it all gets verified and validated and is undeniable, objectively completely factual.
 

momeNt

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Not necessarily, if they shared it with people who were cleared to see and possess it and those were the people who leaded it it's not the IC's responsibility anymore. From my understanding this sort of information has been circulating around for more than 6 months now.

I wouldn't be that surprised if the IC is responsible but they aren't the only possible culprit. I also wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing a lot more of this sort of thing under Trump. He might be surprised how much the agencies he ostensibly runs can do to make his life miserable.

So it's possible, maybe even likely, that the IC goes around Washington and every negotiation or discussion ends with an "or else"?

Is this a good thing?
 

momeNt

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That's the question? Really?

Nothing relating to the welfare of the country as a whole... just who is to blame. Interesting where your priorities are.

Does a discussion on any single issue have to become about EVERY single issue? No. I'm just discussing this in this thread. I don't think this has to do anything about Trump and his fitness for duty, it's about the IC or whoever is seeking to do damage to him. I had a similar stance on Hillary and the damage done to her. It wasn't about Hillary then, or about Trump now. At least not when I'm discussing the issue at hand.
 
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Are you working through your "Junior book of arguing from logical fallacies" in this thread?
Care to enumerate these "logical fallacies"? Or would you rather walk away looking like a complete moron who's unable to make a cogent argument to support such a statement? Time to choose.
 
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fskimospy

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So it's possible, maybe even likely, that the IC goes around Washington and every negotiation or discussion ends with an "or else"?

Is this a good thing?

No, I don't think that's even remotely likely and that vastly overstates things. Much like in any organization though, managers who attack their subordinates often find that their subordinates find ways to make them look bad. The permanent bureaucracy has acted as an important check on elected officials for a very long time now, and that's a very good thing.
 

Jaskalas

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No, I don't think that's even remotely likely and that vastly overstates things. Much like in any organization though, managers who attack their subordinates often find that their subordinates find ways to make them look bad. The permanent bureaucracy has acted as an important check on elected officials for a very long time now, and that's a very good thing.

The way Republicans obstructed everything in Congress falls under this description?
 

fskimospy

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The way Republicans obstructed everything in Congress falls under this description?

No, why would it?

1. They are not the president's subordinates.
2. They are not part of the bureaucracy.
3. If the bureaucracy were acting like Republicans in Congress they would have simply closed up the CIA and refused to work.
 

agent00f

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Does a discussion on any single issue have to become about EVERY single issue? No. I'm just discussing this in this thread. I don't think this has to do anything about Trump and his fitness for duty, it's about the IC or whoever is seeking to do damage to him.

I'm sure if you think hard enough it might figure why such a wanton degenerate is unfit for a fast food mgmt job much less president.

I had a similar stance on Hillary and the damage done to her. It wasn't about Hillary then, or about Trump now. At least not when I'm discussing the issue at hand.

Out of curiosity I searched for such comments: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=search/158036/?q=leak&o=date&c[user][0]=287684

and the only relevant instances where you've weighed in are these: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-russians-behind.2496585/page-6#post-38673090, http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ayed-by-foreign-entity.2492201/#post-38585122

IMO rather neatly explains your opinion here.
 

momeNt

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I'm sure if you think hard enough it might figure why such a wanton degenerate is unfit for a fast food mgmt job much less president.



Out of curiosity I searched for such comments: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=search/158036/?q=leak&o=date&c[user][0]=287684

and the only relevant instances where you've weighed in are these: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-russians-behind.2496585/page-6#post-38673090, http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ayed-by-foreign-entity.2492201/#post-38585122

IMO rather neatly explains your opinion here.

At what point do we just cancel the election? I think there may need to be a court injunction that stays the election for maybe a year while this gets sorted out. Allow the democrats to pick a new candidate, as the current one (k)new she broke the law, (k)new that there was a high possibility of her scandal costing the democrats the election, and in doing so costing us our country because Trump would never win against a competent and law-abiding democrat.

Hopefully there are some conversations being held between Obama, Supreme Court, and Congress to see if this can be stopped before November 8th rolls around and its too late. Pass a constitutional amendment, call martial law, just do SOMETHING.

See above. I saw this coming before anybody else.
 

agent00f

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Ethnofascist defense force? Such the troll you are...lol.

Pretty obvious who they are given how hard they're trying in this very thread. Remember when you insisted there was no briefing even after Trump himself accidentally admitted there was?
 

PokerGuy

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Loved watching Trump crush CNN fake news in his press conference. Pretty funny and at the same sad to see CNN having fallen to about the same level of credibility as the national enquirer (batboy found on mars!) or worse He pretty much smacked them around and didn't let them ask any questions during the press conference. CNN is going to be effectively neutered now that they've completely shown themselves to be part of the fake news machine.

As elements of the "story" fall apart, this looks like a big giant example of the fake news lefties were whining about all the election season, and they've embraced it with full vigor. Typical!
 

agent00f

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See above. I saw this coming before anybody else.

Pretty sure everyone knew the conservative media was going to tell you guys to parrot her or any other democrat's "scandals". The ethnofacist defense force is unabashedly loyal, case in point:

Loved watching Trump crush CNN fake news in his press conference. Pretty funny and at the same sad to see CNN having fallen to about the same level of credibility as the national enquirer (batboy found on mars!) or worse He pretty much smacked them around and didn't let them ask any questions during the press conference. CNN is going to be effectively neutered now that they've completely shown themselves to be part of the fake news machine.

This is a big giant example of the fake news lefties were whining about all the election season, and they've embraced it with full vigor. Typical!

Good think you only follow the real news on breitbart klan sites and poorly made youtube videos.
 

Jaskalas

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Loved watching Trump crush CNN fake news in his press conference. Pretty funny and at the same sad to see CNN having fallen to about the same level of credibility as the national enquirer (batboy found on mars!) or worse He pretty much smacked them around and didn't let them ask any questions during the press conference. CNN is going to be effectively neutered now that they've completely shown themselves to be part of the fake news machine.

As elements of the "story" fall apart, this looks like a big giant example of the fake news lefties were whining about all the election season, and they've embraced it with full vigor. Typical!

I'm having recent flashbacks.
We can add this to the list. And best to keep track, else that this even happened will be denied in a few months time.

Media Is Richly Rewarded for False News, Public Is Deceived
 

momeNt

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Pretty sure everyone knew the conservative media was going to tell you guys to parrot her or any other democrat's "scandals". The ethnofacist defense force is unabashedly loyal, case in point:

Because advocating removing the 22nd amendment makes me part of the EDF? Please, get over yourself. Your arguments are incredibly weak for someone of such astounding intellect. Just put more effort into your posts and give us something more than this vomit you call a post history. You're posting over 25 times a day, post less and post better?
 

agent00f

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I'm having recent flashbacks.
We can add this to the list. And best to keep track, else that this even happened will be denied in a few months time.

Media Is Richly Rewarded for False News, Public Is Deceived

Greenwald doesn't do himself any favors by conflating biased and fake news just to pimp his new business. But nice to see you noticed the defense force needed help.

Because advocating removing the 22nd amendment makes me part of the EDF? Please, get over yourself. Your arguments are incredibly weak for someone of such astounding intellect. Just put more effort into your posts and give us something more than this vomit you call a post history. You're posting over 25 times a day, post less and post better?

Seems pretty clear cut that you or the rest are hardly pushing some principled stance here. I'll oblige when the need arises for a more sophistcated argument.
 
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Well help me out here then. I'm having difficulty in how this intelligence report was leaked. What is the explanation? Who in intelligence would leak this report and why? Initially it was thought to be the Russians, now it's not, but that might mean that it was, it's just the Russians are inside our intelligence community.
One thing is certain...we need to get to the root of this.
 
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