Russian politician says 'let's hit Trump with our Kompromat' on state TV

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-movement-state-tv-us-president-a7929966.html

A Russian politician has threatened to "hit Donald Trump with our Kompromat" on state TV.

Speaking on Russia-24, Nikita Isaev, leader of the far-right New Russia Movement, said the compromising material should be released in retaliation over the closure of several Russian diplomatic compounds across the US.

When asked whether Russia has such material, Mr Isaev, who is also director of the Russian Institute of Contemporary Economics, replied: "Of course we have it!"



 
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They may or they may not have info. More likely they just seem to be trolling Trump and the American people to continue the doubt against him. The disarray it's causing is of great advantage to them because of how fixated Trump is on it.
 

woolfe9998

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While that is intriguing, I'd like to know who Nikita Isaev is. He is described as "leader of the far-right New Russia Movement," and "director of the Russian Institute of Contemporary Economics," neither of which you can find any information about in English. What we need to know is, is he an actual official of the Russian government who would have access to intelligence information or not? I googled up every article I could find on this, and can't find any more information.

The trouble is, if he's an actual Russian official, it doesn't seem likely he would publicly admit that they have blackmail material on Trump. And if he isn't, it seems likely he is just speculating rather than speaking from actual knowledge.
 

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Could be a lot of grandstanding, but at the same time... it'd be interesting if it wasn't.

The problem: if you assume the compromising material is real, would Putin and crew really want to release it now? After all, it's not as if Trump's replacement would be any kinder to Russia. The most it would get is some temporary chaos and a proof that it can manipulate American politics.
 

woolfe9998

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Could be a lot of grandstanding, but at the same time... it'd be interesting if it wasn't.

The problem: if you assume the compromising material is real, would Putin and crew really want to release it now? After all, it's not as if Trump's replacement would be any kinder to Russia. The most it would get is some temporary chaos and a proof that it can manipulate American politics.

I don't see them releasing any such information even assuming they have it. The downside is much greater than any upside. If they do have such material, I agree that this guy is just trolling Trump to try to get him to lift sanctions. The threat itself is probably an empty bluff. Yet it's still intriguing, because the bluff wouldn't make any sense if Trump didn't know they actually had such material.
 

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Can we get Liam Neeson to record "Release the Krompomat!"
 

cytg111

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They may or they may not have info. More likely they just seem to be trolling Trump and the American people to continue the doubt against him. The disarray it's causing is of great advantage to them because of how fixated Trump is on it.

This is of invaluable potential to russia in international affairs. You cant ally with the US cause they're just not stable and not that into you plus if we dont like them we will just topple them again and install another Trump on the throne.
Putins russia sure looks omnipotent in this contrast.
Russia may be corrupt as hell but its stable corrupt. The US has been the opposite of stable these past many months.
 

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I don't see them releasing any such information even assuming they have it. The downside is much greater than any upside. If they do have such material, I agree that this guy is just trolling Trump to try to get him to lift sanctions. The threat itself is probably an empty bluff. Yet it's still intriguing, because the bluff wouldn't make any sense if Trump didn't know they actually had such material.

Yeah I mean the trick to a good blackmail is to put yourself in a place where you never have to release your damaging information. Once it's out there you lose control over your subject. If they do have it it's hard to imagine they would ever release it (or at least the really good stuff) for such small stakes. Maybe you release a little to get his attention, but nothing big.
 

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Yeah I mean the trick to a good blackmail is to put yourself in a place where you never have to release your damaging information. Once it's out there you lose control over your subject. If they do have it it's hard to imagine they would ever release it (or at least the really good stuff) for such small stakes. Maybe you release a little to get his attention, but nothing big.

Depends on your leverage and intended goal. If Putin's original goal was betting that Trump and his administration would be somewhat successful in reversing sanctions and other Pro-Russia agendas the leverage is useful. Once that initial goal of Pro-Russia via executive action was tossed out by resistance and a somewhat competent congress you go to plan B. Plan B. was to destabilize the US as much as possible. If you leverage is no longer useful then go ahead and toss some more highly combustible fuel on the fire.
 

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Depends on your leverage and intended goal. If Putin's original goal was betting that Trump and his administration would be somewhat successful in reversing sanctions and other Pro-Russia agendas the leverage is useful. Once that initial goal of Pro-Russia via executive action was tossed out by resistance and a somewhat competent congress you go to plan B. Plan B. was to destabilize the US as much as possible. If you leverage is no longer useful then go ahead and toss some more highly combustible fuel on the fire.

That's a good point.
 
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Depends on your leverage and intended goal. If Putin's original goal was betting that Trump and his administration would be somewhat successful in reversing sanctions and other Pro-Russia agendas the leverage is useful. Once that initial goal of Pro-Russia via executive action was tossed out by resistance and a somewhat competent congress you go to plan B. Plan B. was to destabilize the US as much as possible. If you leverage is no longer useful then go ahead and toss some more highly combustible fuel on the fire.
Your plan B is what I was getting at earlier. Whether they have anything or not they know they can toss out red meat because the people who oppose Trump will run with that. What's worse is Trump himself will respond to it just making himself seem that much more unstable and fearful.
 

cytg111

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Depends on your leverage and intended goal. If Putin's original goal was betting that Trump and his administration would be somewhat successful in reversing sanctions and other Pro-Russia agendas the leverage is useful. Once that initial goal of Pro-Russia via executive action was tossed out by resistance and a somewhat competent congress you go to plan B. Plan B. was to destabilize the US as much as possible. If you leverage is no longer useful then go ahead and toss some more highly combustible fuel on the fire.

I think you have them reversed, IMO your plan B was always Putins plan A, to make you look like a dummy to the rest of the world and kick up a good riot on the inside. That also means that we have a good chance of actually getting to see the leverage.
 
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I hope they post the "hookers pissing on Trump" videos...just to show they mean business... Bonus points if Melania Trump is one of them.
 

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Sensationalism at its finest. A lesson in how to elevate your brand.

Only one thing is certain- In Putin's Russia, everybody is expendable except Putin. Strong Leader, right?
 

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I think you have them reversed, IMO your plan B was always Putins plan A, to make you look like a dummy to the rest of the world and kick up a good riot on the inside. That also means that we have a good chance of actually getting to see the leverage.

I still am of the opinion that the initial plan by Putin was to plant a manchurian candidate to get sanctions and other pro-Russia agendas pushed. Once he realized that this was a clown car administration of unheralded idiocy he tried to pump the brakes and slow things down. But things were already spiraling into motion and he was forced into "Fuck it, less spread mass chaos while we have the opportunity" mode.
 

cytg111

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I still am of the opinion that the initial plan by Putin was to plant a manchurian candidate to get sanctions and other pro-Russia agendas pushed. Once he realized that this was a clown car administration of unheralded idiocy he tried to pump the brakes and slow things down. But things were already spiraling into motion and he was forced into "Fuck it, less spread mass chaos while we have the opportunity" mode.
Part of the reason why I dont buy this is observing Putin through the Crimea and eastern Ukraine ordeal, I swear that the way that all went down, reactions to sanctions, highly agressive rhetoric response but no bite, this guy wants the sanctions in place cause it serves as another bufferzone to the west. Remember when he raised interest rates? Counter sanctions? He is more than willing to let his people starve a little in order to achieve his geopolitical ambitions. West and east are not supposed to mix.
 

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Part of the reason why I dont buy this is observing Putin through the Crimea and eastern Ukraine ordeal, I swear that the way that all went down, reactions to sanctions, highly agressive rhetoric response but no bite, this guy wants the sanctions in place cause it serves as another bufferzone to the west. Remember when he raised interest rates? Counter sanctions? He is more than willing to let his people starve a little in order to achieve his geopolitical ambitions. West and east are not supposed to mix.

Well he raised interest rates because the ruble was circling the drain.
 

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Plan A was always to cause as much mayhem as possible internal to the US. It was to weaken the expected winner, HRC, not necessarily to elect the longshot Trump. Sanctions lifted and any other goodies after the fact were just icing on the cake.

And if I had to bet ... yes, there is compromising info.
 
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