Personally I would create a 75W TDP (no 6/8-pin) full Polaris 10 card with 4GB and sell it at $200-230.
Isn't full Polaris 10 the 480 4gb though? They would have had to "downclock" it to hit 75w a lot. Or did you mean the full Polaris 11 which is in the new MBP? That would have made more sense than having a 3rd P10 I agree, Apple must have gobbled them all up though. It sounds like this card might also be chinese market only.
Naa. Where i live in eu the 470 took 15% cut this week so cheapest 470 is only like aprox 8% more expensive than cheapest 1050ti.What a lame move if this card is China only. It would undercut 1050Ti's sales by quite a margin.
Why would AMD sell this card in Western market (USA, CA, EU ~ 850 million people market), when they can sell the same chip for 20-50$ more (470/480). But that price difference might be large in eastern markets (Asia w/o Japan & S. Korea, Eastern Europe, Africa, most of Latin America), so it should be similar as with region locked (priced) games. But it's a little bit harder to do the same with hardware, as sellers could easily ship/export them to countries nearby. So you can go for China only and cover 40-50% of "poor" marketWhat a lame move if this card is China only. It would undercut 1050Ti's sales by quite a margin.
Its all about Marketing, a 75W TDP Full Polaris 10 destroying GTX 1050ti 75W TDP PCIe cards in every DX-12 game...
Yes RX 480 is a full Polaris 10, yes they would need to downclock it a lot to reach 75W TDP but it would be the best DX-12 PCI-e only card available today.
If we are imagining products - then it would most likely get 'destroyed' by a 75W GTX 1060 - 85-90% stock performance at 75W. There's also Tesla P4, full GP104 at 50-75W - 25% higher shader throughput than a GTX 1060 (5.5 TFLOPs vs 4.4 TFLOPs).
I said best 75W TDP card for DX-12 games, not Metro Last Light (which is 3-4 years old and also NV TWIMTBP game).
The reason for all these numbers being such is that Polaris TDP downscale faster than the GTX1060 when frequency is reduced.
The GeForce GTX 1060 starts in the 60W to 62W range at all three resolutions. This corresponds to a GPU Boost frequency of approximately 1500 MHz. If you increase the power target to 116 percent and manually set the fan to 100 percent duty cycle, then the clock rate jumps to somewhere between 2050 and 2100 MHz, just like it did when we tested the 1070 and 1080.
AMD’s Radeon RX 480 starts with a GPU frequency in the 850 to 900 MHz range. These numbers are achieved with our "power-saving mode" and a voltage limited to a maximum of 0.85V.
It would need a severe underclock to reach this target, and you can ask yourself where is mobile RX 480 if you think full Polaris 10 would perform that well at that TDP.
If we are imagining products - then it would most likely get 'destroyed' by a 75W GTX 1060 - 85-90% stock performance at 75W.
That was meant to point out the great scaling from GTX 1060 at lower TDPs (85-90% performance @ 62.5% power). But now that you mention it - DX12 or not - severely underclocked RX 480 wouldn't beat the competition at 75W - especially when NVIDIA has shown they can fit a full GP104 clocked at 25% higher shader throughput than a stock GTX 1060 at that TDP or below (as low as 50W). Anyway, enough with imaginary products.
Wrong.
470D is a power hog.
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This is a 470D thread, not which cards have less downclocked power thread.
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Yes RX 480 is a full Polaris 10, yes they would need to downclock it a lot to reach 75W TDP but it would be the best DX-12 PCI-e only card available today.
Its all about Marketing, a 75W TDP Full Polaris 10 destroying GTX 1050ti 75W TDP PCIe cards in every DX-12 game would make AMD cards look much much better in the eyes of many many consumers.
Wich show your bias, the system with the 470D consume 27% more and provide 35-40% better pêrf than the system with the 1050ti, so it has better perf/watt.
My point was to say compared to other faster AMD cards , the 470 and 480, the 470D is a power hog.
It uses 7 less watts than a normal 470 but is much slower. See the chart?
I never said the 1050, so what bias are you personal attacking about?
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"So what’s RX 470D? It’s a new model by AMD, which will not be sold outside China. It’s a RX470/RX460 gap filler, which will cost just enough to compete with GTX 1050 Ti. But why is it China exclusive? I’m afraid there is no short answer for this, but you should know that GeForce GTX X50/X60 series are very popular in Chinese Internet cafes. By not offering any alternative, AMD would lose a lot of market share in that region."
http://videocardz.com/64047/amd-radeon-rx-470d-gets-its-first-full-review
470D is a power hog.
This is a 470D thread, not which cards have less downclocked power thread.
The charts say that the 470D system consume 97% of the 470 system while providing often more than 95% of the perf, even with this metric you are still wrong, moreover the 7W difference is less than meaningless..
As to why i compared to competing solutions it s to point that less performance will degrade the perf/Watt because only the card power scale down while the rest of the system will consume close to the same, this apply also to the 460 in the charts above.