Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

[Stuka87]

Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC is a custom design variant with a triple-slot, dual-fan cooler. The card achieves excellent performance in Full HD, giving you 60 FPS or higher in every single game we tested. Temperatures are very low, and overclocking potential is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Review: The Memory Compromise

Navi 23 only has 8GB GDDR6 on a 128-bit interface

www.tomshardware.com

 

[blckgrffn]

Here is how I feel about the whole MSRP thing -

*awesome*

I think maybe you are right on the "if we go mercilessly negative on this we can get some mileage out of yet another GPU launch that is just cards you can't actually buy" take on this. It's not really about the card at all, because that's boring.

Clicks + views.

That was on AIBs who used this market to increase their razor-thin margins. Sure they said it was because of silicon shortage but we all know that it was an excuse.

For all I care AMD can keep increasing prices to fulfill their obligation to shareholders, but customers aren't having any of that. The end result is that even with scalper prices AMD is creeping up to become more expensive than NVIDIA, despite having lower MSRP, in Germany for example, and certainly in my country.

I am not sure what the difference is when none of the AIB's sell the cards for MSRP?

Do you know that NVidia has kept their costs per GPU the same for the AIB's through this time?

If AMD cards cost more than Nvidia cards (due to AIB pricing, right?) in some regions that must be because people are willing to pay more for them? Or there are regulatory/import issues that push costs and prices up? Doesn't mean much to me one way or the other with regards to which company is giving their customers more "respect" or "value." What you are seeing seems to contradict your point that MSRP matters.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I think maybe you are right on the "if we go mercilessly negative on this we can get some mileage out of yet another GPU launch that is just cards you can't actually buy" take on this. It's not really about the card at all, because that's boring.

Clicks + views.

Yup. Everyone has been salty for a long time now. No one wants to see reviews of cards they can't buy. But if you chum the water enough, you might get a feeding frenzy going. Give the mob something to turn their anger on, besides you.

We should be roasting long hair Steve for ruining a 3080 in the name of science. Could have picked out of storage, or bought, an old power hungry POS card to sacrifice.

 

[aigomorla]

I just want to state the facts that Reviews are pointless if we can't get the item being reviewed...

End of Rant...

I still want a Wifu edition card btw.... but i'll probably never get one.

We should be roasting long hair Steve for ruining a 3080 in the name of science. Could have picked out of storage, or bought, an old power hungry POS card to sacrifice.

i think he sort of did it on purpose seeing how it was the really horrible gigabyte 3 stacked card.
I really think he wanted a reason to kill it, and RMA it, and this way he can say, i used a gigabyte board + gigabyte PSU + Gigabyte GPU, and it died from your really horrible PSU.

But that 3080 had major major problems with cooling especially the RAM, hence why you don't see a STRIX or a FTW3 edition card in there.

 

[Ranulf]

What does it matter what AMD sets the MSRP at when you won't find any cards for it?

Suppose AMD had set the MSRP for this card at $200. Wow, such great value in this day and age. Unbelievable value! How could you not rush out to buy one of these amazing $200 cards?

If you want meaningless numbers to help you feel better, by all means indulge yourself, but this isn't at $380 card any more than it's a $200 card. It's a ~$600 card and that's the only number that matters.

It matters because they won't always be MSRP and if/when the market demand crashes, you'll have cards with price/perf that look even dumber than they do now. It also lets them keep prices higher next gen.

It would be nice if AMD put some of their profit to keeping drivers alive for R9 200 cards another year at least.

 

[tamz_msc]

If AMD cards cost more than Nvidia cards (due to AIB pricing, right?) in some regions that must be because people are willing to pay more for them? Or there are regulatory/import issues that push costs and prices up?

No AMD cards cost more where I live because AMD doesn't like to keep up the supply - their relationship with importers and retailers is rubbish. Always was, always will be. This is the problem with AMD; outside of their primary markets, they simply do not care. And then people (on this forum) expect customers (like in my country) to care about AMD.

And LOL, why would anyone want to pay more for an AMD GPU? The only redeeming quality that high-end AMD GPUs have in this generation is more VRAM, but then again that's a factor if you're into 4K gaming, and far more people would rather have 1440p at high refresh rate, in which case the VRAM on the equivalent NVIDIA card isn't a problem.

 

[VirtualLarry]

It would be nice if AMD put some of their profit to keeping drivers alive for R9 200 cards another year at least.

That would sure beat stock buy-backs.

 

[Abwx]

No AMD cards cost more where I live because AMD doesn't like to keep up the supply - their relationship with importers and retailers is rubbish. Always was, always will be. This is the problem with AMD; outside of their primary markets, they simply do not care. And then people (on this forum) expect customers (like in my country) to care about AMD.

Rarely a post was of so bad faith..

AMD has very good relations with retailers whatever the country unless those retailers are crappy ones, so complain to your unprofessional sellers not to AMD, but i guess it s just an invention of yours as a mean to downplay anything AMD...

 

[tamz_msc]

Rarely a post was of so bad faith..

AMD has very good relations with retailers whatever the country unless those retailers are crappy ones, so complain to your unprofessional sellers not to AMD, but i guess it s just an invention of yours as a mean to downplay anything AMD...

LOL accusing me of making up stories and trying to imply that I know less about retailers in my country than some random European dude on an American forum.

 

[Dribble]

It's just a bad card.
-The actual MSRP - i.e. the MSRP of AIB models which are the only ones you can buy are $500 before they get inflated.
-It has 8* connector which hits anyone without PCIE4 for 2-12% so a massive incentive not to buy for a large % of potential purchasers.
-It's infinity cache means performance starts to fall off above 1080p so a bad choice if you have a higher res monitor or are thinking of buying one. Who'd be buying new at $500 and not thinking of running at a higher res at some point - we all own cards that are doing fine at 1080p already?
-Just to top it off it's well down on features vs Nvidia equivalents.

 

[coercitiv]

random European dude on an American forum.

Now that escalated quickly.

 

[Tup3x]

All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

 

[AtenRa]

In Greece the first cards are being available online, with Sapphire Pulse OC model being 100 euros cheaper vs the RTX3060

Lets see how the price and availability will go the rest of the month.

 

[jpiniero]

All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

It is like 10% faster than the 3060 in 1080p raster. I agree that in normal times it would have been cheaper than the 3060.

 

[AtenRa]

It is like 10% faster than the 3060 in 1080p raster. I agree that in normal times it would have been cheaper than the 3060.

In the past, NVIDIA Graphics Cards commanded a hefty price premium for being 10% faster and with less power consumption vs the competition.

 

[blckgrffn]

All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

In all likelihood, the 3060 and 6600XT will cost about the same at AIB pricing. There will likely be "premium" 3060s at over $500 (I think the shuffle yesterday had a 3060 card only at $520) and 6600XTs that run the same gamut. I am comfortable saying they are the same class of card and that for both cards the MSRP number is imaginary.

What I would be somewhat interested in is the pricing to OEMs. I am assuming that as these are "entry level" gamer cards that slot in just above the 1660/1660Ti that has been in basically everything under $1K for the last year how that shakes out. I would imagine MSRP has little relevance to these contracts and that this is the true way that market share is built.

The commanding lead of the 3070 in Steam surveys, for example, had to have been pushed by OEMs in a big way given the relative lack of retail availability there was.

 

[Stuka87]

All things considered it should cost a bit less than RTX 3060 (in real life). If it doesn't, it doesn't really make sense to buy one. Those two are essential as fast but RTX 3060 has more VRAM and seems to handle certain cases better.

Why should a faster card with equal efficiency cost less than the competing card?

 

[Timorous]

So I managed to pick up an Asus Dual OC for £330 by the looks of it. If you take off the VAT that is $379 USD. Historically it is pretty poor for this tier of card but in the current market I think that is actually not too bad.

 

[jpiniero]

Why should a faster card with equal efficiency cost less than the competing card?

It is slower in RT.

Anyway, it appears that there are cards technically showing at $379 on Newegg. All OOS. There is a shuffle going on but I don't know if there's any overpriced bundle with it.

 

[Stuka87]

It's just a bad card.
-The actual MSRP - i.e. the MSRP of AIB models which are the only ones you can buy are $500 before they get inflated.
-It has 8* connector which hits anyone without PCIE4 for 2-12% so a massive incentive not to buy for a large % of potential purchasers.
-It's infinity cache means performance starts to fall off above 1080p so a bad choice if you have a higher res monitor or are thinking of buying one. Who'd be buying new at $500 and not thinking of running at a higher res at some point - we all own cards that are doing fine at 1080p already?
-Just to top it off it's well down on features vs Nvidia equivalents.

Did you actually read the reviews?

- MSRP right now means nothing. Asking $500 is AIBs trying to get in on the extreme prices things are selling for so they dont hand that profit to some scalper or shading retailer
- The 8x PCIe slot has near zero impact on performance unless maybe you have a PCIe 2.0 slot. In which case your system is probably too slow for it anyway. This has been proven by several reviewers testing 3.0 slots.
- The purpose of infinity cache is to improve performance above 1080P. It performs ahead of the 3060 at 1080 and 1440, and slightly behind at 4K, which nobody should be using this card for anyway.
- Are you suggesting there are many features that it doesn't support? The only one I can think of is DLSS, and that's temporary until AMD releases their equivalent.

 

[blckgrffn]

It is slower in RT.

Anyway, it appears that there are cards technically showing at $379 on Newegg. All OOS. There is a shuffle going on but I don't know if there's any overpriced bundle with it.

Like 4-5 at MSRP, and then another 4-5 models starting at $399 and working to $550. Just as we probably all suspected. I enrolled for anything $450 and lower.

 

[blckgrffn]

So I managed to pick up an Asus Dual OC for £330 by the looks of it. If you take off the VAT that is $379 USD. Historically it is pretty poor for this tier of card but in the current market I think that is actually not too bad.

Yeah man, what are you upgrading from?

Hitting MSRP (even arguably slightly to high MSRP) right now is really good. The opportunities tend to be very fleeting.

 

[Timorous]

Yeah man, what are you upgrading from?

Hitting MSRP (even arguably slightly to high MSRP) right now is really good. The opportunities tend to be very fleeting.

Currently have a 2200G which will stick around until Zen 3d then I will get a Mobo + CPU and maybe a PSU depending on what AMD SKUs AMD combine with the V-Cache. Doing that means I can keep my RAM (16GB 3600 C16 B-die) so the platform itself should last for a good 5+ years with just GPU upgrades and then I can jump into whatever the new hotness is.

 

[ModEl4]

Mindfactory has 10 models in stock with very good prices 399-489€, there are very few etailers with stock, most of them with only 2-3 models and their prices are way higher than Mindfactory, up to +120€ depending on the model and the etailer. Let's see in 2 weeks what the situation will be, but today the prices are not that bad in Mindfactory at least! Since Mindfactory has way lower 6600XT prices vs nearly everyone else, maybe AMD is using it to make a statement and try and reverse the negative press...

https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/Grafikkarten+(VGA)/Radeon+RX+Serie.html/price_from/370/price_to/650

 

[Leeea]

It is slower in RT.

RT is crippling to both, and I would argue unusable for both.

 

[blckgrffn]

Currently have a 2200G which will stick around until Zen 3d then I will get a Mobo + CPU and maybe a PSU depending on what AMD SKUs AMD combine with the V-Cache. Doing that means I can keep my RAM (16GB 3600 C16 B-die) so the platform itself should last for a good 5+ years with just GPU upgrades and then I can jump into whatever the new hotness is.

Haha, that's a bit of an upgrade! I hope you get lots of fun times out of it

I wish you good luck on your CPU+mobo upgrade hunt as well. May it all be MSRP or less!