Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

[Stuka87]

Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC is a custom design variant with a triple-slot, dual-fan cooler. The card achieves excellent performance in Full HD, giving you 60 FPS or higher in every single game we tested. Temperatures are very low, and overclocking potential is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Review: The Memory Compromise

Navi 23 only has 8GB GDDR6 on a 128-bit interface

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Timorous]

Haha, that's a bit of an upgrade! I hope you get lots of fun times out of it

I wish you good luck on your CPU+mobo upgrade hunt as well. May it all be MSRP or less!

If I knew that Zen 3d would work on B450 (I am pretty sure it will but who really knows?) there are some good deals on the B450 Tomahawk Max 2. Can pick one up for £60 which is a good price for that board but in 6 months time perhaps some B550's will come down a bit more in price so I think I will wait it out.

 

[Tup3x]

Why should a faster card with equal efficiency cost less than the competing card?

It's easily possible to swing it in favour of one over another depending on which side you favour. In your case it's clearly AMD. All things considered they are more or less equal unless you happen to play Doom (at 1440p). For some NVENC, obviously faster RT performance and extra VRAM are more important.

 

[Abwx]

It is like 10% faster than the 3060 in 1080p raster. I agree that in normal times it would have been cheaper than the 3060.

It is 13-15% faster at 1080p and 8% faster at 1440p, seems that the 12GB doesnt help the 3060 even at the highest resolution, albeit those cards are not supposed to target higher than 1080p.

It is slower in RT.

Anyway, it appears that there are cards technically showing at $379 on Newegg. All OOS. There is a shuffle going on but I don't know if there's any overpriced bundle with it.

Now it s RT...

The 3060 is at 33 fps with RT at 1080p, you think that your argument hold.?.seriously?.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (FHD & WQHD) und Raytracing

Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (FHD & WQHD) und Raytracing / Testsystem, Testmethodik, Spiele und Treiber

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[Stuka87]

It's easily possible to swing it in favour of one over another depending on which side you favour. In your case it's clearly AMD. All things considered they are more or less equal unless you happen to play Doom (at 1440p). For some NVENC, obviously faster RT performance and extra VRAM are more important.

This comment makes no sense with what you quoted from me. And not sure why you are basically calling me a fanboy for just asking why the faster card should be cheaper.

RT performance for both of them is pointless. Unless you consider 33fps at 1080P for the 3060 to be fine (if you do, ok. But you are certainly in the minority).

The 6600XT basically falls between the 3060 and 3060Ti in most games (with some outliers of course) at 1080 and 1440.

 

[Mopetar]

There is a thing called perception. AMD got greedy this time around, while NVIDIA didn't. People remember these things.

No one is going to remember the MSRP because you can't get any card for that cheap right now without spending a lot of time watching for shipments to drop and beating out the bots or physically camping outside of a store to be able to buy the card.

people won't remember any supposed Nvidia generosity either because their cards all cost hundreds of dollars more than MSRP as well.

Yeah sure, AMD absolutely needs to make $100 more revenue on a mid-range GPU for record profits, quarter after quarter.

Better them than the scalpers that just flip them. Also it's not exactly hard for AMD to have record profits when it was so unprofitable until recently. Most of that is driven by their CPU division anyway and if they really did care about maximizing those profits they would make even fewer GPUs.

 

[dr1337]

So are NVIDIA. Man, people like to come up with weird excuses.

Can you explain why you deserve graphics cards for lower prices than they're worth? Or are you saying for profit corporations don't deserve to sell their products priced what they're worth?

What i remember is the 7970 sold at ultra competitive price, and it happened that it was a total mistake financiarly speaking, i dont think that AMD will ever repeat such a blunder.

I honestly don't know if southern islands was a financial mistake but it wasn't priced competitively in any meaningful way. $549 for the 7970 at launch was much more expensive than the aging GTX 580, and the GTX 680 came out only a few months after the 7970 priced $50 lower with more performance and better efficiency.

 

[tamz_msc]

No one is going to remember the MSRP because you can't get any card for that cheap right now without spending a lot of time watching for shipments to drop and beating out the bots or physically camping outside of a store to be able to buy the card.

people won't remember any supposed Nvidia generosity either because their cards all cost hundreds of dollars more than MSRP as well.

In my market AMD is still being punished for launching a friggin RX 480 at outrageous prices, since 2016. Sure go ahead an delude yourself into believing that these things don't matter.

Can you explain why you deserve graphics cards for lower prices than they're worth? Or are you saying for profit corporations don't deserve to sell their products priced what they're worth?

If I wanted 6600 XT performance I could have got the same in 2019 with the 5700 XT. It means that performance in the $400 price-point hasn't improved an inch from AMD's side. Meanwhile on NVIDIA's side the performance jump from 2060 to 3060 is 20% and from 2060 Super to 3060 Ti is 36%.

So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

 

[Abwx]

Can you explain why you deserve graphics cards for lower prices than they're worth? Or are you saying for profit corporations don't deserve to sell their products priced what they're worth?

I honestly don't know if southern islands was a financial mistake but it wasn't priced competitively in any meaningful way. $549 for the 7970 at launch was much more expensive than the aging GTX 580, and the GTX 680 came out only a few months after the 7970 priced $50 lower with more performance and better efficiency.

580 was aging, hence non competitive, as for the 680 it was perhaps a little faster at the start but one year later it became either a tie or the 7970 even performing slightly better.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 im Test: Ein kleiner Titan. Ganz groß. (Seite 3)

Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 im Test: Ein kleiner Titan. Ganz groß. / Testergebnisse / Leistung ohne AA/AF / Leistung mit AA/AF

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For efficency that s 284W full system for the 680 and 316W for the 7970, so yea, the 7970 GPU was using something like 25W more...

 

[Mopetar]

In my market AMD is still being punished for launching a friggin RX 480 at outrageous prices, since 2016. Sure go ahead an delude yourself into believing that these things don't matter.

They don't matter. If AMD wanted to they can cut prices at anytime and people will line up to buy from them. No one cares about prior price reputation (Being viewed as expensive and having a lower cost product actually helps sales. See Apple who uses this perception of being a luxury product line that's now selling you a computer for just $1,000!) of a card they didn't buy.

Most reluctance to buy AMD has come from the perception that they have driver problems, etc. People will remember bad products far more than bad prices. If they didn't people wouldn't have wanted to buy a 3080 due to Turing being so underwhelming for the price, but that didn't happen at all. Everyone and their grandmother realized that the new product is some of the best value Nvidia has offered in recent memory and wanted to get one.

AMD doesn't have to care about your market either if they can sell every card they can make (on top of having retailers or scalpers mark it up well above MSRP) in other markets.

So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

More than retailers, scalpers, or AIB manufacturers that are otherwise soaking up the difference between MSRP and market value.

Your argument might have merit if it weren't for the fact that you can't get any cards for MSRP. You may as well argue that if unicorns were real they would be better than regular horses. Sadly they aren't real so your argument is pointless.

 

[tamz_msc]

They don't matter. If AMD wanted to they can cut prices at anytime and people will line up to buy from them. No one cares about prior price reputation (Being viewed as expensive and having a lower cost product actually helps sales. See Apple who uses this perception of being a luxury product line that's now selling you a computer for just $1,000!) of a card they didn't buy.

Most reluctance to buy AMD has come from the perception that they have driver problems, etc. People will remember bad products far more than bad prices. If they didn't people wouldn't have wanted to buy a 3080 due to Turing being so underwhelming for the price, but that didn't happen at all. Everyone and their grandmother realized that the new product is some of the best value Nvidia has offered in recent memory and wanted to get one.

AMD doesn't have to care about your market either if they can sell every card they can make (on top of having retailers or scalpers mark it up well above MSRP) in other markets.



More than retailers, scalpers, or AIB manufacturers that are otherwise soaking up the difference between MSRP and market value.

Your argument might have merit if it weren't for the fact that you can't get any cards for MSRP. You may as well argue that if unicorns were real they would be better than regular horses. Sadly they aren't real so your argument is pointless.

Hence AMD GPUs will continue to be trash in my market, and from my point of view I'm completely justified in calling out their rubbish priced GPUs.

 

[Stuka87]

In my market AMD is still being punished for launching a friggin RX 480 at outrageous prices, since 2016. Sure go ahead an delude yourself into believing that these things don't matter.

The RX 480 had a fixed price in USD. Any differences per country comes down to any sort of taxes and exchange rates being applied. And retailers are not required to sell cards at that MSRP. AMD/nVidia do not go and itemize a different price for every single country on earth.

If I wanted 6600 XT performance I could have got the same in 2019 with the 5700 XT. It means that performance in the $400 price-point hasn't improved an inch from AMD's side. Meanwhile on NVIDIA's side the performance jump from 2060 to 3060 is 20% and from 2060 Super to 3060 Ti is 36%.

So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

This is a faulty comparison. The 5700XT was replaced by the 6700XT. The 6600XT replaced the 5600XT. And the 6600XT is much faster than the 5600XT. Your comparison of the $400 price point literally means nothing, because nobody is selling cards as MSRP.

No AMD cards cost more where I live because AMD doesn't like to keep up the supply - their relationship with importers and retailers is rubbish. Always was, always will be. This is the problem with AMD; outside of their primary markets, they simply do not care. And then people (on this forum) expect customers (like in my country) to care about AMD.

AMD doesn't work directly with retailers for video cards. That comes down to AIBs (Asus, MSI, etc whom ALSO SELL nVidia cards!). But its pretty clear you feel like ignoring actual reality and like living in a green distortion field. nVidia is inarguably one of the most anti-consumer companies on earth. You should stop trying to act like they care about people and are doing things out of the goodness of their heart.

 

[tamz_msc]

The RX 480 had a fixed price in USD. Any differences per country comes down to any sort of taxes and exchange rates being applied. And retailers are not required to sell cards at that MSRP. AMD/nVidia do not go and itemize a different price for every single country on earth.

BS.

RX 480 8 GB Launch price - $240. $1 = ₹67 in June 2016. Simple cost conversion: $240 = ₹16,080. Import duty and customs, typically 40%, so price before GST = 1.4*₹16,080 = ₹22,512. AMD's MSRP before GST = ₹28,990.

AMD was heavily criticized for this move, and rightfully so.

This is a faulty comparison. The 5700XT was replaced by the 6700XT. The 6600XT replaced the 5600XT. And the 6600XT is much faster than the 5600XT. Your comparison of the $400 price point literally means nothing, because nobody is selling cards as MSRP.

Your comparison is dishonest, because if prices were normal at MSRP, we would have got better performance for the same price two years down the line, but we didn't.

AMD doesn't work directly with retailers for video cards. That comes down to AIBs (Asus, MSI, etc whom ALSO SELL nVidia cards!). But its pretty clear you feel like ignoring actual reality and like living in a green distortion field. nVidia is inarguably one of the most anti-consumer companies on earth. You should stop trying to act like they care about people and are doing things out of the goodness of their heart.

Just stop embarrassing yourself and admit your ignorance when you don't know anything. Both AMD and AIB partners simply do not care about my market. From my link:

Making things worse for people who were considering AMD, sources tell Gadgets 360 that Sapphire has brought 30 units and MSI has imported just eight units of the RX 480. Supply was a concern for earlier AMD cards, and it doesn't look like it's going to be any better this time around.

"If you want a Fury or a 390, you'll need to pay upfront and be prepared to wait for a month. We only get one or two every other month and they're usually pre-booked," a computer store owner on Lamington Road in Mumbai informed Gadgets 360 a few of months ago. According to him, there's demand for AMD's mid-range and high-end cards, but the company's India operations doesn't see any value in bringing them in. It has reached a point where certain stores are looking at importing them directly into the country to meet the demands of their long-time clientele, he says.

Sources say that the original astronomical price point was because AMD wasn't able to negotiate with distributors and OEMs for better pricing. Nvidia holds a near monopoly on GPU sales here, and AMD doesn't have control over this, they add.

So not only does AMD not care, they are also incompetent at negotiating prices with distributors.

 

[AtenRa]

Guys, even the MSRP prices are bad for all new gen GPUs not only the retail prices.

We had 6600XT level of performance @ $400 MSRP two years ago. And that performance at $400 two years ago had increased from the prior generation due to NVIDIAs Turing cards.

$300 for the RTX3060 and $380 for the RX6600XT for 1080p gaming in 2021 is too high no matter how you see it.

Just remember that latest consoles are aiming 4K gaming at $500-600, none should consider that $300-400 GPUs for 1080p is ok even in this global market.

Unfortunately the majority of the consumer doesnt have consumer ethics, they buy what they can afford without even think about it. So AMD now that has a competitive line of products they price accordingly. They are a corporation and they need to make money, im ok with that but im not ok spending 400-450 for a 5700XT with RT and lower power two year later. Same goes for the NVIDIA parts.

Just my two cents

 

[legcramp]

3060/6600XT should be a $199 card or $229.99 depending on the memory size.

 

[blckgrffn]

3060/6600XT should be a $199 card or $229.99 depending on the memory size.

That would be amazing.

In this fantasy land you could scoop up a used 2060 for less than $150 and 1080p gaming would be very well served.

I don’t dispute this is where it was going before the world went sideways, but that’s a rabbit hole.

 

[dr1337]

If I wanted 6600 XT performance I could have got the same in 2019 with the 5700 XT....

...So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

Maybe theres something I'm missing, do you own a time machine? The world has changed A LOT in two years and AMD is literally selling every chip they make. MSRPs don't exist in a bubble, and they even change from time to time.

Your logic is non-existant. You really think AMD as a manufacturer shouldn't raise prices according to demand, and instead should push those extra profits off to retailers and scalpers?

Do you really honestly think if AMD set the MSRP at $249, that you'd actually be able to go out and buy one for that price in the next 6 months?

 

[aigomorla]

3060/6600XT should be a $199 card or $229.99 depending on the memory size.

This is why i said RIP budget gamer.
A Budget gamer is not someone that has to buy a 500+ dollar videocard.
500 dollars back a couple of years got you a GTX 780 GTX 980.
600 dollars got you a GTX 1080 and like 50 more got you the Ti.

then 2000 series threw everything out the window....
2080 broke 700 dollars. and the Ti broke 1000 on some AIBs.

I thought they may have fixed some pricing for the 3080... but.. yes they did, at the cost of NOTHING being on shelves to buy unless you stood in line and did secret hand shakes with the guy next to you, while the guy in the TENT is your LAN buddy.

Sigh.... this is sad very sad.... and unfortuntely the only correction is to kill the demand, which i don't see happening anytime soon.

 

[tamz_msc]

Maybe theres something I'm missing, do you own a time machine? The world has changed A LOT in two years and AMD is literally selling every chip they make. MSRPs don't exist in a bubble, and they even change from time to time.

Your logic is non-existant. You really think AMD as a manufacturer shouldn't raise prices according to demand, and instead should push those extra profits off to retailers and scalpers?

Do you really honestly think if AMD set the MSRP at $249, that you'd actually be able to go out and buy one for that price in the next 6 months?

Maybe you live in some alternate reality but where I live, the performance of an electronic item at a given price only gets better with time.

 

[jpiniero]

3060/6600XT should be a $199 card or $229.99 depending on the memory size.

If the 6600 XT really is that efficient in mining it might still have been profitable at pre-stimulus prices if you had cheap electricity.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

This is why i said RIP budget gamer.

Only viable option for budget gaming is an APU currently.

A Budget gamer is not someone that has to buy a 500+ dollar videocard.

Indeed. If you can get it, I'd look for a prebuilt OEM system. Then add anything you need aftermarket. DIY really isn't budget territory in the current climate.

Sigh.... this is sad very sad.... and unfortuntely the only correction is to kill the demand, which i don't see happening anytime soon.

I don't see this situation ending for the foreseeable future. I've just seen complaints from major retailers here that you can pretty much forget Black Friday, Christmas and the January sale. They simply can't get anything using microchips in stock currently.

 

[Ranulf]

This is a faulty comparison. The 5700XT was replaced by the 6700XT. The 6600XT replaced the 5600XT. And the 6600XT is much faster than the 5600XT. Your comparison of the $400 price point literally means nothing, because nobody is selling cards as MSRP.

No its the only thing that really matters because prices right now are in flux all the time. The MSRP will be around in 6-12 months time still. Maybe it won't matter because supply/demand is crazy or it will and you have a bunch of overpriced cards sitting on shelves that no one wants to buy.

 

[Abwx]

If I wanted 6600 XT performance I could have got the same in 2019 with the 5700 XT. It means that performance in the $400 price-point hasn't improved an inch from AMD's side. Meanwhile on NVIDIA's side the performance jump from 2060 to 3060 is 20% and from 2060 Super to 3060 Ti is 36%.

So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

BS.

RX 480 8 GB Launch price - $240. $1 = ₹67 in June 2016. Simple cost conversion: $240 = ₹16,080. Import duty and customs, typically 40%, so price before GST = 1.4*₹16,080 = ₹22,512. AMD's MSRP before GST = ₹28,990.

AMD was heavily criticized for this move, and rightfully so.

Your comparison is dishonest, because if prices were normal at MSRP, we would have got better performance for the same price two years down the line, but we didn't.

Just stop embarrassing yourself and admit your ignorance when you don't know anything. Both AMD and AIB partners simply do not care about my market. From my link:



So not only does AMD not care, they are also incompetent at negotiating prices with distributors.

Stop your bs, there s this in the link you posted :

Market dynamics across the region can affect final street prices and are beyond our control," AMD's Corporate Vice President Roy Taylor told Gadget 360 in an email.



AMD prices are set in USD and they practice the same price everywhere, read, they get the same amount of dollars for any country, there can be also slight reductions for big quantities.

So basically your retail channel is gouging prices but you put the blame on AMD.
Besides, they have even less control over their AIB partners prices.

 

[jpiniero]

AMD Radeon RX 6600XT ETH mining efficiency puts it at risk from miners - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT is actually good in cryptomining AMD’s just-released mid-range RX 6600 XT might be at risk from crypto miners. With Ethereum value increasing, the last thing gamers want to hear is that miners are interested in another GPU launch. According to the report from Reddit, AMD RX...

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I thought I saw this already in a thread, but Videocardz has some details about the mining performance.

According to the video made by Dizzy Mining, who had used MSI RX 6600 XT Gaming X, the card offers 28 MH/s at 93W out of the box. After reducing the maximum GPU frequency to 1.2 GHz and increasing memory frequency to 2.2 GHz, mining performance increased to 32 MH/s while TDP dropped to 55W (GPU ASIC Power).

 

[R0H1T]

Simple cost conversion: $240 = ₹16,080. Import duty and customs, typically 40%, so price before GST = 1.4*₹16,080 = ₹22,512. AMD's MSRP before GST = ₹28,990.

There's no MSRP in India, just MRP which you probably already know "Maximum retail price" & as you should know it can be basically anything the manufacturer decides it to be!

Now if your point is should AMD stop being so greedy SoB yeah definitely, especially in places with such high volumes like India.

Maybe you live in some alternate reality but where I live, the performance of an electronic item at a given price only gets better with time.

That only works if everything else has remained pretty much constant ~ which it certainly hasn't over the last two years! The trend is definitely what you said but don't assume that's the case throughout human history, at every single point, or will be during the next major catastrophe.

 

[blckgrffn]

Maybe you live in some alternate reality but where I live, the performance of an electronic item at a given price only gets better with time.

Ha, a land free from calamity and inflation? Must be nice.

We've been drunk on getting so much performance increases over the last twenty years - at many times for lower prices, especially adjusted for inflation - that yeah, the current situation sucks. I am not going to be mad with manufacturers about $25k container costs, tariffs, pandemic induced supply chain wonk and crypto mania. Etc.