Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

[Stuka87]

Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC is a custom design variant with a triple-slot, dual-fan cooler. The card achieves excellent performance in Full HD, giving you 60 FPS or higher in every single game we tested. Temperatures are very low, and overclocking potential is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Review: The Memory Compromise

Navi 23 only has 8GB GDDR6 on a 128-bit interface

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[tamz_msc]

Stop your bs, there s this in the link you posted :

Market dynamics across the region can affect final street prices and are beyond our control," AMD's Corporate Vice President Roy Taylor told Gadget 360 in an email.



AMD prices are set in USD and they practice the same price everywhere, read, they get the same amount of dollars for any country, there can be also slight reductions for big quantities.

So basically your retail channel is gouging prices but you put the blame on AMD.
Besides, they have even less control over their AIB partners prices.

AMD's CVP isn't the one negotiating prices. Try harder.

 

[tamz_msc]

Ha, a land free from calamity and inflation? Must be nice.

No, a land where 6 core 12 thread processors can be bought for the same price as 4 core 4 thread processors after a couple of years; a land where mid range android phones with 4GB RAM/64 GB storage give way to mid range android phones with 6GB RAM/128GB storage and 5G support, a land where you can get 1TB SSDs for the price of a 250GB SSD couple of years down the line, etc. Anywhere, basically.

There's no MSRP in India

Go to AMD India twitter and say that again with a straight face.

 

[jpiniero]

No, a land where 6 core 12 thread processors can be bought for the same price as 4 core 4 thread processors after a couple of years; a land where mid range android phones with 4GB RAM/64 GB storage give way to mid range android phones with 6GB RAM/128GB storage and 5G support, a land where you can get 1TB SSDs for the price of a 250GB SSD couple of years down the line, etc. Anywhere, basically.

Do those have insane demand from miners?

 

[tamz_msc]

Do those have insane demand from miners?

That's irrelevant. Electronics get better in performance/price ratio over time. Only AMD seems to think it doesn't with the 6600 XT.

 

[jpiniero]

That's irrelevant. Electronics get better in performance/price ratio over time. Only AMD seems to think it doesn't with the 6600 XT.

Unless you are willing to acknoledge the reality of mining, there really isn't any point in discussing the 6600 XT's pricing any further.

 

[R0H1T]

Go to AMD India twitter and say that again with a straight face.

Find me a retailer or retail bill with "MSRP" printed on it, I don't put credence into "social media" PR mouthpieces! About 2-3 months back MI India did a giveaway of Mi 11 ultra, I'm yet to see them reveal the winner's names

 

[tamz_msc]

Unless you are willing to acknoledge the reality of mining, there really isn't any point in discussing the 6600 XT's pricing any further.

Oh, I acknowledge mining, but 6600 XT price is still extremely poor for the performance it offers, regardless of the current market situation.

 

[tamz_msc]

Find me a retailer or retail bill with "MSRP" printed on it, I don't put credence into "social media" PR mouthpieces! About 2-3 months back MI India did a giveaway of Mi 11 ultra, I'm yet to see them reveal the winner's names

Are you doubting that MSRP as a concept exists in India or doubting that you cannot get anything at MSRP right now? If it is the former, then you're way off the mark.

 

[legcramp]

It pulls 70 watts at the wall for about 32mh mining ETH.. super efficient

 

[R0H1T]

Are you doubting that MSRP as a concept exists in India or doubting that you cannot get anything at MSRP right now? If it is the former, then you're way off the mark.

Like I said there's no MSRP in India, there's only MRP ~ which admittedly a lot of manufacturer allow to be set (printed) to insane levels. There's at least 3-4 hands between you & AMD when you're buying things in India, unless you're buying from say Cloudtail, Appario, Retailnet or somehow directly through the manufacturer. In that Abwx is kinda right, the margins are crazy but manufacturers are also at fault as they allow BS "MRP" & then retailers claim 10-20% or even 40-60% discounts on MRP. There's obviously a price list which retailers get but the issue, as with most things in India, is that depending on where you're from & who you're buying from you can get crazy discounts on "MRP" especially if you don't want the MRP bill. This applies across the board, though less in the electronics sector as most people prefer warranty.

In case you didn't know retailers sell "bills" for anything from construction materials to well basically any & everything out there!

 

[Kenmitch]

Oh, I acknowledge mining, but 6600 XT price is still extremely poor for the performance it offers, regardless of the current market situation.

Then don't buy it. Boycott it....Maybe this thread would be a good place to start?

 

[Leeea]

Maybe you live in some alternate reality but where I live, the performance of an electronic item at a given price only gets better with time.

I live in the USA. And the RX580 8g I purchased many years ago for $200 now sells for $500 used.

Performance / Price has gone down quite a lot around here.

 

[Abwx]

As of now in Germany, wich is the most competitive big european market, the 6600XT is 469€ at the cheapest (Mindfactory) and the 3060 at 559€.

Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT

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Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060 Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060

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[AtenRa]

As of now in Germany, wich is the most competitive big european market, the 6600XT is 469€ at the cheapest (Mindfactory) and the 3060 at 559€.

Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT

geizhals.de

Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060 Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060

geizhals.de

As far as I can see, same goes for USA retail prices. 6600XT is cheaper vs the RTX3060 by $100 and more than $200 vs the RTX3060Ti

With retail prices of the RX6600XT cheaper vs the RTX3060, all review conclusions of the $379 MSRP vs $399 MSRP 3060Ti are all simple wrong and they should update their conclusions with current retail prices.

 

[tamz_msc]

Like I said there's no MSRP in India, there's only MRP ~ which admittedly a lot of manufacturer allow to be set (printed) to insane levels. There's at least 3-4 hands between you & AMD when you're buying things in India, unless you're buying from say Cloudtail, Appario, Retailnet or somehow directly through the manufacturer. In that Abwx is kinda right, the margins are crazy but manufacturers are also at fault as they allow BS "MRP" & then retailers claim 10-20% or even 40-60% discounts on MRP. There's obviously a price list which retailers get but the issue, as with most things in India, is that depending on where you're from & who you're buying from you can get crazy discounts on "MRP" especially if you don't want the MRP bill. This applies across the board, though less in the electronics sector as most people prefer warranty.

In case you didn't know retailers sell "bills" for anything from construction materials to well basically any & everything out there!

I'm not talking about what sellers print on the stickers that they slap on to boxes. I'm talking about what AMD says the official price is, and AMD absolutely mentions a list price (SRP) exclusive of GST. Just check any official communication from AMD on social media.

 

[Timorous]

As far as I can see, same goes for USA retail prices. 6600XT is cheaper vs the RTX3060 by $100 and more than $200 vs the RTX3060Ti

With retail prices of the RX6600XT cheaper vs the RTX3060, all review conclusions of the $379 MSRP vs $399 MSRP 3060Ti are all simple wrong and they should update their conclusions with current retail prices.

Currently at OCUK there are no 3060s available and the cheapest 3060Ti is £630 where as the 6600XT is £375. Scan have some 3060s for £450.

With that pricing the 6600XT is not terrible relative to the competition. Further with inflated 2nd hand prices you can get good money for older parts still so the upgrade cost if selling old is probably not that different to normal.

Where this pricing hurts most is someone buying all new or upgrading from an APU/broken GPU.

 

[Mopetar]

Guys, even the MSRP prices are bad for all new gen GPUs not only the retail prices.

I think you're letting more recent market conditions color your reality. Go back and look at the launch of the 3080. Everyone was pretty blown away at how good the value was. After Turing people were expecting much higher prices. We got GA-102 for $700 when TU-102 was $1,200. AMD's 6800 XT was price competitive with that as well at $650.

Neither of those cards are bad prices. Of course you can't actually buy either of those cards for those prices. I haven't checked recently but both were going for double or more their MSRP not all that long ago. The more recently released cards and their MSRP are a reflection of the fact that anything getting released right now is going to be bought up by miners who value the product at a much higher dollar amount than gamers do.

Maybe you live in some alternate reality but where I live, the performance of an electronic item at a given price only gets better with time.

I don't know what reality you live in, but I'm in one with a global supply shortage of components and materials needed to manufacture said electronic items that have seen a massive increase in demand due to cryptocurrency miners buying them up in order to make a tidy profit for themselves. Perhaps you don't understand the effects of those facts on price, but ignoring those and expecting reality to be different than it is won't change anything.

I don't know what color the sky is in your world, but you may as well just go yell at the clouds in it.

 

[tamz_msc]

I live in the USA. And the RX580 8g I purchased many years ago for $200 now sells for $500 used.

Performance / Price has gone down quite a lot around here.

Why are you normalizing an exceptional situation and passing it off as if that's the way it has always been? There hasn't been a meaningful performance bump at the $200 price point since the RX 580.

 

[Leeea]

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Could Be The Next Mining King, Insane Cryptocurrency Performance of 32 MH/s at Just 55W Reported

AMD's Radeon RX 6600 XT could potentially become a the new popular mining graphics card given its impressive cryptocurrency numbers

wccftech.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Reportedly A Low-End King In Cryptocurrency Mining, 32 MH/s at Just 55W

-sigh- The errors we make in life.

at $379 MSRP that is one hell of a deal.

 

[AtenRa]

I think you're letting more recent market conditions color your reality. Go back and look at the launch of the 3080. Everyone was pretty blown away at how good the value was. After Turing people were expecting much higher prices. We got GA-102 for $700 when TU-102 was $1,200. AMD's 6800 XT was price competitive with that as well at $650.

Neither of those cards are bad prices. Of course you can't actually buy either of those cards for those prices. I haven't checked recently but both were going for double or more their MSRP not all that long ago. The more recently released cards and their MSRP are a reflection of the fact that anything getting released right now is going to be bought up by miners who value the product at a much higher dollar amount than gamers do.

let me tell you why RX6600XT pricing makes all people angry, it is because with RX6600XT AMD doesn't increase the perf/$ with the new generation as NVIDIA did with Ampere.
NVIDIA did actually increased the perf/$ with RTX3060 vs RTX2060 and RTX3060Ti vs RTX2060 Super. They increased the performance you get for the same MSRP as the Turing cards.

With the RTX3060Ti they gave you a healthy 30% performance increase vs the same $399 MSRP of the old Turing RTX2060 Super. If the market was at MSRP prices the RX6600XT at $379 would have no chance against the RTX3060Ti at $399.
With the RTX3060 they didnt fair that well that is why all reviews burred them, NVIDIA increased the MSRP to $330 for the RTX3060 and increased performance vs the RTX2060 by 15-20%
Its the same with RX6600XT, except the inclusion of the RT and a lower power consumption, AMD didnt increased the perf/$ at a significant level. So everyone was expecting AMD to bring a higher performance card at the $399 price that would be 10% faster vs the RTX3060Ti. That would be a good RX5700XT replacement card.
Well such a card exists, its the RX6700XT but not at the $399 MSRP.

Also to point out, that AMD released RX5700XT as a 1440p gaming card at $399 MSRP.
With RX6600XT release, two years later they actually trying to push a $379 MSRP card for 1080p gaming.
Well, that is an NVIDIA move taken from the Turing release. Time for AMD to take the flak for copying the NVIDIA tactics

 

[Shmee]

That hashrate doesn't sound all that great TBH. Maybe additonal tweaks and software improvements will help with efficiency?

 

[tamz_msc]

I don't know what reality you live in, but I'm in one with a global supply shortage of components and materials needed to manufacture said electronic items that have seen a massive increase in demand due to cryptocurrency miners buying them up in order to make a tidy profit for themselves. Perhaps you don't understand the effects of those facts on price, but ignoring those and expecting reality to be different than it is won't change anything.

I don't know what color the sky is in your world, but you may as well just go yell at the clouds in it.

I'm not ignoring reality. I'm just pointing out that AMD SRPs are garbage, at least in my country. Even if the situation were normal, they would still have been garbage because of reasons I've mentioned in my earlier post.

 

[blckgrffn]

Why are you normalizing an exceptional situation and passing it off as if that's the way it has always been? There hasn't been a meaningful performance bump at the $200 price point since the RX 580.

I just don't get why you are fixated on this right now.

The $200 price point is *dead* for all newly released cards.

Nobody - not nvidia, not AMD - is in a rush to fill that "void" because they can sell every card they make for way more. If the 6600XT was MSRP'd at $200 and being sold by AIBs for $500 would that make you happy for some reason? That would "breathe life" into some price point you are hung up on somehow but otherwise be totally and 100% irrelevant to anyone trying to buy them.

Just like $379 after todays drop is likely to be totally irrelevant to shoppers because they'll bring $450-$600 easily (IMO). That's how 3060's cost here and older gen parts of similar performance bring second hand, probably mined out and out of warranty.

AMD hasn't been in the position to remedy this for a long time because they were struggling as a business, not because they were evil. The 5500XT briefly brought better perf/w from AMD at $200 but lol, that was last year man. Now it's chip shortage pandemic hell.

I mean, nvidia did us the favor of kickstarting the 1050Ti back into life.

Retail price is $300.

Wow, thanks, we're saved.

 

[itsmydamnation]

I'm not ignoring reality. I'm just pointing out that AMD SRPs are garbage, at least in my country. Even if the situation were normal, they would still have been garbage because of reasons I've mentioned in my earlier post.

you dont think they wouldn't set different SRP's if market conditions were different?

 

[blckgrffn]

you dont think they wouldn't set different SRP's if market conditions were different?

He knows they would have still been garbage because he has been on the alternate, non-covid timeline where everything was peachy keen.

WHY DID YOU COME BACK?!? I would have stayed.