Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

[Stuka87]

Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC is a custom design variant with a triple-slot, dual-fan cooler. The card achieves excellent performance in Full HD, giving you 60 FPS or higher in every single game we tested. Temperatures are very low, and overclocking potential is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Review: The Memory Compromise

Navi 23 only has 8GB GDDR6 on a 128-bit interface

www.tomshardware.com

 

[AtenRa]

It has nothing to do with the market shortages and mining.

The AMD MSRP is following the products of the Competition.

RTX3080 MSRP $699
RX6800XT MSRP $649

RTX3070 MSRP $499
RX6700XT MSRP $479

RTX3060Ti MSRP $399
RX6600XT MSRP $379
RTX3060 MSRP $330

 

[Mopetar]

I'm not ignoring reality. I'm just pointing out that AMD SRPs are garbage, at least in my country. Even if the situation were normal, they would still have been garbage because of reasons I've mentioned in my earlier post.

Then you must conclude that MSRP of almost every card is garbage because AMD isn't particularly out of line with existing cards/prices. Of course none of those MSRP's actually matter either because you can't buy a card for any of them.

Card	MSRP (USD)	Newegg (Cheapest Price in Stock)
RTX 3080	$700	$1,549
RX 6800 XT	$650	$1,259
RTX 3070	$500	$1,049
RX 6700 XT	$480	$849
RTX 3060 Ti	$400	$849
RX 6600 XT	$380	N/A (No cards in stock)
RTX 3060	$300	$739

So your complaint about AMD's MSRP being garbage is itself garbage because it's completely meaningless. Even the ridiculously marked up AIB cards that cost $550 are all sold out because they're less expensive than a 3060 even though that card has a lower MSRP. So yes, you're ignoring reality.

 

[msroadkill612]

The reality is DGPU input costs have ballooned & they suffer from evolutionary giganticism ($1k+ 450w 16GB hair dryers - it cant go on). Its not just crypto.

IMO - this iteration is just an extension of lisa's sound, zen like philosophy to compete via lower manufacturing & other costs, yet achieving OK results for the mainstream that game devs gradually embrace - more in tune w/ console game dna anyhoo

a big trend is relying more on existing system resources as shared gpu resources

pcie 4 is a now mature edge the AMD ecosystem has long had, so they can better compete using cheaper 8 lane vs 16, which in turn makes dearer 256 bit gpu bus a more marginal gain - why have the expense of 256 bit if its bottlenecked by the pcie bus

as system memory improves & grows, & can be brought into the GPU resource fold more, ala consoles/apu, & evidenced in cutting edge games like MSFS 2020

It introduces a powerful system resource - a free 8 lane pcie 4 slot on many platforms, makes pcie 4 nvme raid 0 an option.

in the days when ddr was as slow as, gpuS HAD to rely on expensive discrete onboard cache exclusively. Modern ecosystems give game devs an option of using slower but huge memory

Its a mid level perf card with a low BOM - they have a far better chance of sticking with their RRP than nvidia in the new input costs paradigm - the new rx580.

I like it

 

[DownTheSky]

I bit the bullet and bought one @ MSRP (sapphire pulse). You could find them in almost all Europe at MSRP for hours since launch. 10hrs later and only the more expensive models are available.

I wish it was cheaper but AMD knew what they are doing. Why should retailers get all the profit?

 

[aigomorla]

Why should retailers get all the profit?

Its not retailers... its scalpers.

And its because scalpers have no soul in reselling at a much higher profit that is whats making us RAGE.
BOTS flood the market.

Honestly, they need better ANTIBOT protection.
GPU's should be sold PER HOUSEHOLD, and not PER PERSON.
So a set number per address, and that includes cross products like you can only have a combo of set cards per entire family, and not per model.

But Meh.. greed is by human nature us, so if there is a profit we will always exploit it, until it becomes unprofitable.

 

[R0H1T]

I'm not talking about what sellers print on the stickers that they slap on to boxes. I'm talking about what AMD says the official price is, and AMD absolutely mentions a list price (SRP) exclusive of GST. Just check any official communication from AMD on social media.

And it seems you're still not getting it. MRP ~ which by law is the upper floor beyond which an item cannot be sold in India is indeed BS for a lot of electronic products here but that's not just an AMD problem. When did you last buy something like a phone during sale on Amazon or Flipkart, say with deep discounts? You ever saw the bill on that one, even without GST, now bought the same thing with "regular" pricing? SRP or MSRP is useless in India because things don't work here like in the west. What you're probably talking about is the price list which retailers have & that's pretty much for all branded items sold in the country! Now unless you're saying AMD is posting these lists on twitter you're argument is facetious because you can get (same) products being sold at such wide margins & prices across the country, at the same time!

I'm from a relatively small city, 5M pop is rather puny as compared to metros or tier A cities, & we sure as hell don't have everything available as they do in say Bangalore or Hyderabad. Now if I want something which isn't stocked by local retailers I can still get it offline, the pricing on which will depend on how big the retailer is, what price he's buying from the distributor or another retailer from another major city & how many "bills" he sells.

So this concept of "SRP" is garbage anyway because by law the retailers only have to sell at or under MRP, AMD isn't unique in pricing their products to insane levels. And this is why I also generally prefer to buy online & only during sales, from (nearly) first party sellers, because I'm not encouraging BS practices like the ones mentioned above.

 

[tamz_msc]

And it seems you're still not getting it. MRP ~ which by law is the upper floor beyond which an item cannot be sold in India is indeed BS for a lot of electronic products here but that's not just an AMD problem. When did you last buy something like a phone during sale on Amazon or Flipkart, say with deep discounts? You ever saw the bill on that one, even without GST, now bought the same thing with "regular" pricing? SRP or MSRP is useless in India because things don't work here like in the west. What you're probably talking about is the price list which retailers have & that's pretty much for all branded items sold in the country! Now unless you're saying AMD is posting these lists on twitter you're argument is facetious because you can get (same) products being sold at such wide margins & prices across the country, at the same time!

I'm from a relatively small city, 5M pop is rather puny as compared to metros or tier A cities, & we sure as hell don't have everything available as they do in say Bangalore or Hyderabad. Now if I want something which isn't stocked by local retailers I can still get it offline, the pricing on which will depend on how big the retailer is, what price he's buying from the distributor or another retailer from another major city & how many "bills" he sells.

So this concept of "SRP" is garbage anyway because by law the retailers only have to sell at or under MRP, AMD isn't unique in pricing their products to insane levels. And this is why I also generally prefer to buy online & only during sales, from (nearly) first party sellers, because I'm not encouraging BS practices like the ones mentioned above.

Why are you muddling MSRP and MRP? MRP is whatever comes with the sticker on the box, but it doesn't usually mean that it is the price you pay for the item. Most of the time, the price you pay for electronics is much lower than the MRP that is printed on the sticker.

You're simply wrong to say that MSRP doesn't work in India. Here is the MSRP for Ryzen 5000 as announced by AMD:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1324343245757972483

https://twitter.com/x/status/1324343245757972483

Calculate 1.18 times the MSRP and that is exactly what the 5600X, 5800X, 5900X and 5950X sell for in most retailers across the country (right now it is even lower because of sales).

AMD is absolutely unique when it comes to ridiculous pricing on their GPUs though; the MSRP of RDNA 2 products is proof enough of that.

 

[tamz_msc]

you dont think they wouldn't set different SRP's if market conditions were different?

Going by their past history, no.

 

[tamz_msc]

I just don't get why you are fixated on this right now.

The $200 price point is *dead* for all newly released cards.

Nobody - not nvidia, not AMD - is in a rush to fill that "void" because they can sell every card they make for way more. If the 6600XT was MSRP'd at $200 and being sold by AIBs for $500 would that make you happy for some reason? That would "breathe life" into some price point you are hung up on somehow but otherwise be totally and 100% irrelevant to anyone trying to buy them.

Just like $379 after todays drop is likely to be totally irrelevant to shoppers because they'll bring $450-$600 easily (IMO). That's how 3060's cost here and older gen parts of similar performance bring second hand, probably mined out and out of warranty.

AMD hasn't been in the position to remedy this for a long time because they were struggling as a business, not because they were evil. The 5500XT briefly brought better perf/w from AMD at $200 but lol, that was last year man. Now it's chip shortage pandemic hell.

I mean, nvidia did us the favor of kickstarting the 1050Ti back into life.

Retail price is $300.

Wow, thanks, we're saved.

I'm not fixated on a particular price point. My problem is two-fold:

1. AMD didn't give us better performance/price at the $400 MSRP price bracket.
2. AMD pricing has always been rubbish in my country.

Both of them are undeniable truths. I don't blame you for not knowing about (2), but if you justify (1) because of the present market situation, congratulations, you've drunk the AMD kool-aid.

 

[tamz_msc]

Then you must conclude that MSRP of almost every card is garbage because AMD isn't particularly out of line with existing cards/prices. Of course none of those MSRP's actually matter either because you can't buy a card for any of them.

Card	MSRP (USD)	Newegg (Cheapest Price in Stock)
RTX 3080	$700	$1,549
RX 6800 XT	$650	$1,259
RTX 3070	$500	$1,049
RX 6700 XT	$480	$849
RTX 3060 Ti	$400	$849
RX 6600 XT	$380	N/A (No cards in stock)
RTX 3060	$300	$739

So your complaint about AMD's MSRP being garbage is itself garbage because it's completely meaningless. Even the ridiculously marked up AIB cards that cost $550 are all sold out because they're less expensive than a 3060 even though that card has a lower MSRP. So yes, you're ignoring reality.

I don't care about your meaningless comparisons with US MSRP. I'm talking about MSRP in my country. It's not my problem if you're that slow to understand that I'm talking about garbage AMD GPU MSRPs for my country.

User insults are not allowed (You're that slow to understand").

AT Mod Usandthem

 

[aigomorla]

Well i do know AMD set a new bar for pricing on HEDT.
We didn't have 2000+ dollar HEDT processors until Thread Ripper.
Even the 7980Xe was still priced below 2000 dollars.

And the B550 motherboard pricing is still what i consider absolutely ridiculous as its not much different from a X570.

I do not disagree on your statement that AMD has horrible pricing.
Because if you look at the pricing carefully, its about 30-40% more then what we were normally used to at that bracket.

If anything, it did force intel to "correct" its pricing, as it was getting to AMD levels, but never really got there.

 

[AtenRa]

Well i do know AMD set a new bar for pricing on HEDT.
We didn't have 2000+ dollar HEDT processors until Thread Ripper.
Even the 7980Xe was still priced below 2000 dollars.

And the B550 motherboard pricing is still what i consider absolutely ridiculous as its not much different from a X570.

well just see the market landscape today, AMD doesnt have competition in the CPU market from Intel especially in the HEDT segment and in the GPU market we have AMD with very competitive product line and a market that yhr consumer will buy anything at any price they will find available.

This is a surreal market situation that i dont remember happened before the last 20-30 years. AMD just takes advantage of the situation as any company should , thats fine. But the consumer is the big loser here big time. We wanted a healthy AMD to have competition against Intel and NVIDIA and now we have an AMD that is doing the best they have ever done as a company but at the worst time for the consumer, zero competition in both CPUs and GPUs.

 

[Leeea]

But the consumer is the big loser here big time.

not yet ...

This is nothing, nothing compared to our history.

Intel's product segmentation? Nvidia's hairworks and etc? AMD may not have any real competition in the CPU market, but they have yet to repeat the pure screw the customer over policies of their competitors.

Forcing Nvidia and Intel to clean up their anti-consumer product stack is very beneficial for the consumer.

 

[Aikouka]

But that 3080 had major major problems with cooling especially the RAM, hence why you don't see a STRIX or a FTW3 edition card in there.

I’ve got the latest version of it, and I can attest that it still has pretty bad cooling. I expected a whole lot more for what’s effectively a 3.5-slot card. Yes, it’s 320-350W, but given that my old EVGA 2080 Ti (250W) only needed two slots and two fans, there’s just no excuse. The thing is.. you specifically note the memory, which I’ve seen videos about replacing the thermal pads, but I saw high GPU temps too.

I’ve got a block on it now, but haven’t finished the full build yet, so I don’t know how good the numbers will be. However, this is my first Gigabyte card in quite a long time, and honestly… I’d like for it to be my last If this is the sort of quality and engineering to expect.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Well such a card exists, its the RX6700XT but not at the $399 MSRP.

A non-XT 6700 would certainly fill a gap here. But I don't think that's happening yet. Same with non-XT 6600.

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I admit I broke down and snagged a 6600XT. They where in stock at launch at a not great, not terrible price. I'm not really proud of it, but that's how things are at the moment.

 

[Magic Carpet]

@Insert_Nickname

5600G is the best deal if you can get away with integrated graphics, considering you get a decent cpu on top of it too. Also, have the increasing electrical bills affected you yet?

 

[aigomorla]

Well intel has its new fab up and running.
And supposedly its high vol.

I am only praying Intel will kick AMD and Nvidia's butt in "BUDGET" marketing segement, without learning any bad habits the other two have learned during this shortage.

Maybe this will grab samsung attention that they can no longer charge what they want anymore, as i think the prices are also very reflective on Samsung's fabs, and will lessen the strain on TSMC so they can also go back to normal pricing.

But i doubt it.... i bet you we will never see a 250 dollar video card anymore, which will give more people a reason to just go xbox / ps, and ultimately kill gaming evolution on PC.
No developer wants to make a game which only 2% of the gaming population can utilize.
(that includes Ray Tracing AMD + Nvidia, Miners killed it before we could get it fully unleashed because no one has the cards to utilize it.)
That by standards is financial suicide.

Sad thing is miners do not know by killing the PC Gamer market, they officially killed off all affordable mining GPU's for the future, and they only helped dig the deep ditch were in.

But they wont care, because there is still money to be made, and when its all over, it will be too late to go back.

 

[tamz_msc]

But i doubt it.... i bet you we will never see a 250 dollar video card anymore, which will give more people a reason to just go xbox / ps, and ultimately kill gaming evolution on PC.

That's already happening; there's still a scarcity of the Series X but the Series S and PS5 get regular drops in my country. Gamepass and the ability to resell games means that the cost of ownership is manageable for a price-sensitive customer. Then there's GeForce Now and xCloud for which it is a matter of time before data centers are available in my country.

People have plenty of reasons to switch to consoles right now and streaming is also going to be a viable enough option for many in the future.

 

[DisEnchantment]

they suffer from evolutionary giganticism

I found this hilarious, not sure if you are aware of it, but apparently the GPU dies evolved in the abyss of the oceans, before moving on to dry land and finding their habitat inside of our PC

Deep-sea gigantism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Insert_Nickname]

5600G is the best deal if you can get away with integrated graphics, considering you get a decent cpu on top of it too.

That'd get my vote if you can afford it. Otherwise, the 3400G/3200G is still competitive if you pair it with decent dual rank memory.

In a pinch you can run older games fine even on an Athlon.

Also, have the increasing electrical bills affected you yet?

It's complicated. Due to local regulation, I get a tax break because I have electrical heating (heat pump). So my bills aren't comparable to pretty much anywhere else. Essentially, the more I use, the cheaper the cost per KWh gets, but there is a lot more to it. It'd take at least few pages to explain, and I'm not even sure I get it myself.

 

[beginner99]

Several models of the RX 6600XT are actually available here for purchase starting from $550 up to $700. Explains why they are in stock. $550 for a 1080p card. yeah the fact it is actually available is a miracle in it's own but $550 for what should be around $200 by now...just crazy. if my 290x breaks I will probably just get some crappy 710gt to run my machine and buy a ps5/xbox instead.

 

[Leeea]

But i doubt it.... i bet you we will never see a 250 dollar video card anymore

I completely disagree.

When mining crashes again, our $250 dollar video card tier will be back. It might be used, but it will be back.

Mining will eventually crash. Eth will transition, or become illegal, or whatever. It is going to take a while but it will happen.

 

[Timorous]

I completely disagree.

When mining crashes again, our $250 dollar video card tier will be back. It might be used, but it will be back.

Mining will eventually crash. Eth will transition, or become illegal, or whatever. It is going to take a while but it will happen.

Eth will but something new will come along to replace it.

 

[Mopetar]

I don't care about your meaningless comparisons with US MSRP. I'm talking about MSRP in my country. It's not my problem if you're that slow to understand that I'm talking about garbage AMD GPU MSRPs for my country.

Do basic economics not work the same way in your country as everywhere else on the planet?

 

[tamz_msc]

Do basic economics not work the same way in your country as everywhere else on the planet?

Nice deflection. I'm making things amply clear for you that even under normal market conditions AMD sets outrageous MSRPs in my country. And here you are refusing to understand this simple fact because it's obvious that AMD can do no wrong in your eyes.