Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

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Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices



 
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So my 6600XT arrived. I have the Asus Dual OC and it is nice to look at.
I have the 3060 version, does your have the metal backplate too? I was stoked about a basic model having it. All of the Ventus line cards from MSI I have bought, use the worthless plastic one.
 
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I have the 3060 version, does your have the metal backplate too? I was stoked about a basic model having it. All of the Ventus line cards from MSI I have bought, use the worthless plastic one.

Yes it has a metal backplate, the cooler looks like the rog strix one and the only difference I see is that the Strix has 4 heat pipes and this has 3. Also possible that the Strix had more fins but hard to tell.
 

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I did check amazon and there are extension cables but nothing to replace the bit that plugs into the PSU.

I searched for " seasonic pcie cable 8 pin " and it's showing multiple modular cables available.

CableMod RT-Series Pro ModFlex Sleeved 8-pin PCI-e Cable for ASUS and Seasonic is one example.
 
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I searched for " seasonic pcie cable 8 pin " and it's showing multiple modular cables available.

CableMod RT-Series Pro ModFlex Sleeved 8-pin PCI-e Cable for ASUS and Seasonic is one example.

I found a COMeap cable for my PSU. £13 with delivery by 1pm tomorrow so before I finish work. If I do find my cable set or Seasonic are reasonable I can always send it back.

£13 is an acceptable idiot tax I suppose.
 
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Finally got around to looking at the reviews. Performance and power seem really good. Bad MSRP.

But that higher price they charge board makers for the chips will encourage AMD to make more of them than they otherwise would have. It is sadly acceptable for current market conditions. But I really hate to see what the new normal will be.
 

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Finally got around to looking at the reviews. Performance and power seem really good. Bad MSRP.

But that higher price they charge board makers for the chips will encourage AMD to make more of them than they otherwise would have. It is sadly acceptable for current market conditions. But I really hate to see what the new normal will be.
You win today's interwebz, congratulations. Because that is what everyone needs to prepare their b holes for; the new normal. When someone writes about things going back to normal, I think how much I want them to be right. But it is unlikely to happen.
 

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I remember i bought a 128 bit 4670 card for like 10% of this ! Granted this cache tech is impressive and have a small cost but damn...

What you say guys can i sell a vega 56 and swap for a 6600xt?
 
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I remember i bought a 128 bit 4670 card for like 10% of this ! Granted this cache tech is impressive and have a small cost but damn...
The HD 4000 series was really great, aggressive pricing. But you have to keep in mind the 4670 was a small ~150mm² chip, there's been significant inflation since then, transistors basically stopped becoming cheaper and RDNA2 is light on memory bus. I doubt we'll ever get a card nearly as fast as the company's previous "top end" for only $80.
 
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I remember i bought a 128 bit 4670 card for like 10% of this ! Granted this cache tech is impressive and have a small cost but damn...

What you say guys can i sell a vega 56 and swap for a 6600xt?

@DAPUNISHER did it, I bet you can too with a little work. Heck, just post to FB & CL that you want to swap for a NIB 6600XT and you might get a hit. Just make sure the manufacturer will honor the warranty (like MSI). Thermals and everything should be much more stable with 6600XT.

If you have a Microcenter, it might worth checking out.

Today my local one had 25+ of a particular model in stock at $440, and now as I check they have 1 remaining. I guess that was the one fate wanted me to drive down there and get
 

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When I sold the Red Devil 56 here a couple months ago, the price I asked was a bargain for the market pricing. Still twice what I paid for it. The faster, and much smaller, lighter, power sipping, quiet, 3060 I won in the shuffle left me still having some of the cash from the 56 sell. So if you can get a good price for the 56, and the 6600xt is available retail, not scalper pricing, make it happen captain.
 
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The GPU market is a mess.... Only only hope in salvation is if Intel does something or can even make an impact.

You know it's bad when we have to put our hopes of the GPU market on intel. But I agree. Intel is actually in a unique position to profit from the situation IF they have secured enough wafers. the could grab a ton of marketshare just for being available and not stupidly overpriced which I do think is possible as miners would probably be hesitant to risk going intel due do software compatibility issues. I can see an RX 6600 XT competitor from the going for $300 and selling like hot- cakes. $300 is still greatly overpriced for such a card but could intel have honestly dreamed of selling it at that price given the performance? No. All depends if Gelsinger is willing to finally lower margins for volume.
 
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You know it's bad when we have to put our hopes of the GPU market on intel. But I agree. Intel is actually in a unique position to profit from the situation IF they have secured enough wafers. the could grab a ton of marketshare just for being available and not stupidly overpriced which I do think is possible as miners would probably be hesitant to risk going intel due do software compatibility issues. I can see an RX 6600 XT competitor from the going for $300 and selling like hot- cakes. $300 is still greatly overpriced for such a card but could intel have honestly dreamed of selling it at that price given the performance? No. All depends if Gelsinger is willing to finally lower margins for volume.

If the top Intel card manages to get even close to the 6600 XT it's likely to be so exceptional at mining that it will just sell out to miners.
 
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If the top Intel card manages to get even close to the 6600 XT it's likely to be so exceptional at mining that it will just sell out to miners.

Miner demand is not infinite*, and if anyone could fill it Intel would be it. But yea, as soon as miners realize it can mine, totally going to buy as many intel as possible.

The problem is it is not just the chips that are short, but also all the board components to.

*if enough miners emerge, the value of mining will go down
 

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Intel being good at mining would actually help prices for AMD/Nvidia GPUs. Presumably Intel's cards would be much better at mining than gaming just on account of driver maturity.

Since gamers are less likely to want them, miners have less competition and that combined with the larger overall supply of cards helps lower the price.

Intel could probably even sell them in bulk to miners and make themselves a tidy little profit, especially compared to going through retail channels. They really don't have an existing reputation with consumers they need to try to maintain and miners will pay better anyhow.
 
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You're not wrong, inflation is far from the only reason prices are so high. But we have been over that and over that, some are being willfully ignorant of it, because it gets in the way of manufactured outrage towards certain IHVs.

Material shortages, massive increases in shipping and transportation costs, unprecedented demand, bots enabling scalpers better than ever before. But no, let's roast AMD for asking more monopoly money than the old Ferengi math says is okay. A point that is whooshing over far too many heads it seems. That being, the old Ferengi math is no good now, and any analysis based on it is inane IMO.

By that same token, Nvidia should not have been roasted for Turings pricing.

High demand, monopoly conditions(AMD would not released anything for months) and increased cost(new memory larger dies, increased R and D expenditure) basically meant Turing had just as much right to increase cost over pascal.

But no, we roasted Nvidia like a toaster oven.

If Nvidia priced themselves lower than or the same as pascal, they would no incentive to release or even release turing because the chips were larger and the memory more expensive than the chips they were releasing along with the R and D spent on them.

The thing is what people don't realize is AMD is what keeps Nvidia prices in check. If Nvidia value prices their cards while being the more prestigious brand, they would have grinded AMD into dust. That is Nvidia lowering their prices thus, lowering their margins, would force AMD to accept even smaller margins. So low they could not afford to pay the bills or pay R and D. Same thing with Intel. If Intel just made better products, kept die sizes the same, increase core count and kept die sizes the same while not increasing prices, AMD would have died years ago.

The problem with AMD's current pricing is that they are basically equal to Nvidia's which just puts pressure on Nvidia to raise their pricing when you add in their mining performance.

That is AMD is the value brand which basically sets the floor pricing on video cards. Consumers will pay a premium for Nvidia cards vs AMD. So when AMD prices their cards high, it gives Nvidia a licence to raise their prices.

The best example of this is pitcairns or AMD 7870. This is the single greediest price increase graphic cards history because it had none of the cost increase with wafers(cost per transistor was still going down) and it was basically a small die selling at big die prices(when inflation is taken into account, it was more expensive than todays pricing for midrange dies). This was a 212mm2 selling for $350 in 2012 on 28nm!! Along with not moving the graphic card segment forward in terms of price to performance. This while AMD was still solidly the value brand in the market place.


Considering Nvidia was just about to release their cards, it didn't even make sense economically and was just greed over taking sense. What this allowed Nvidia to do is raise pricing on all their cards, even their smaller dies because economically speaking it would make zero sense to price them selves below AMD. We will be paying this price on the next generation as AMD increase prices beyond Nvidia levels.

Consumers need to stop buying videocards in general and particularly, AMD cards at these inflated prices to correct the market.
 
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If the top Intel card manages to get even close to the 6600 XT it's likely to be so exceptional at mining that it will just sell out to miners.

Why would it be expectational at mining? Could be just "normal" given it's graphics power or also a lot worse due to uArch reasons or unoptimized mining software.
 

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according to reviews... the card downgrades to 8x pci-e 4.0

So the card can't even run @ 16x PCI-E 4.0 even if you have the physical capacity to do so

You can't tell me this is a great card.... not even by a longshot..
 
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Fabio taking point on calling out some of the issues I also take exception with, from major review sites.

 

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Its a cost savings measure. It was always 8x even at pci-e 4.0. The difference is pci-e 4.0 8x is equivalent to 16x on 3.0 mobos.
Which is more than enough for this card. It does seem like a way to get more people to upgrade their older AM4 chipsets though. I still have a x370 3600 combo in one of my systems. While the performance hit is rare in pcie 3 mode, it may not be with unreleased future titles. I suppose you can always upgrade when you have to.
 

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Right, get out there and preach. AMD needs to be punished.

So, how do you feel about the 6600XT in todays market?
I am not responding to any more of the white knighting of Nvidia in an AMD thread. It feels weird people are doing it. Maybe it is more correct to call it Green Knighting?

And given Nvidia's continuous evil empire ways, like threatening Hardware Unboxed if they did not change editorial direction, the failed partner program, and the nearly endless other evil empire shenanigans. Punishing AMD for some much needed profiteering, to pump the rest of the water out of what was a sinking ship, feels like opposite world.
 
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