An MSI B450 Tomahawk for $100 is more than enough for a $200 chiplets. No need for a X570 imo.
And for many of us it is a drop in replacement.
An MSI B450 Tomahawk for $100 is more than enough for a $200 chiplets. No need for a X570 imo.The BF5 numbers look great, i had picked my 8700 non k some time ago for the max 1080p results but that 3600 gives it a nice run for the money. Assuming boards get cheaper soon,i can see the 3600 being the new $200 favorite. The 3600 simply shines. It should be the default $200 choice period if a game is heavily threaded.
An MSI B450 Tomahawk for $100 is more than enough for a $200 chiplets. No need for a X570 imo.
And for many of us it is a drop in replacement.
The Tomahawk has bios flashback so it is good to go.I guess i meant more as a fresh build as those cheaper boards would require a bios update which in turn requires a cpu. Me myself i know no one with a a AMD well besides myself and a 8350. With any luck maybe newer batches of the B450 will have it updated?
The Tomahawk has bios flashback so it is good to go.
Thanks for the link. Was a concern of mine as I know of no one where I live with a Ryzen CPU to borrow for the flashing.
Thanks for the link. Was a concern of mine as I know of no one where I live with a Ryzen CPU to borrow for the flashing.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_ryzen_7_3700x_ryzen_9_3900x_review,11.htmlGuys can you post cpu-z benchmark scores for 3000 series? i can't find them anywhere.
Trinidad & Tobago, Caribbean.That's why AMD will send you a bootkit if you ask them to.
In exactly the same place.
AMD sold all the CPU's they could get manufactured during this period and were supply constrained.
Shortly after Conroe came out, AMD was picked up by Dell and despite now being far less attractive an option due to Conroe, couldn't adequately supply their regular retail channels, due to giving Dell first bite of the cherry.
How on Earth could they have done any better when the K8 was the undisputed King?
People need to stop telling themselves this comforting lie that AMD would have been great, if not for nasty Intel doing the dirty on them.
An MSI B450 Tomahawk for $100 is more than enough for a $200 chiplets. No need for a X570 imo.
And for many of us it is a drop in replacement.
I kind of knew you were here just to bring up the same old arguments. You've been knocking this revisionist history since this stupid thread here
How capacity constrained will AMD be for the next 4 years?
Conroe was 3 years after the Hammer cores and well over a year after the AMD lawsuit was filed.
If your history was the case. The FTC judgement would have been lifted.
You can still be fined for speeding, even if you don't crash your car.
Just because Intel didn't materially effect AMD, doesn't mean they weren't crossing a line with their behaviour.
And I am sorry that the concept of being capacity constrained is something you are unable to grasp.
Disjointed logic? Fallacy
Yes having the best processor for 3 years and zero major OEMS sounds like zero material effect.
Oh I understand artificial capacity constraints.
and I'm sure you will continue using past arguments and false equivalences just like the old toms days.
Chad stop taking this OT, or it will not end well for you. It is clear you would like nothing better than for this thread to get locked. Just stop.
Stop with the who started it nonsense, you sound like a child. Do not pursue this in this thread any further.What utter rot. How do you even come to such a conclusion.
And if you check back, you should be able to see that I was not the person who started talking about this subject.
yepOn a cool note, with Zen2 it seems like there is little reason not to go with an affordable B450 Mobo and basic 3000 or 3200 memory along with stock cooling. Very little gain from pressing higher than that, totally marginal. While it might not be thrilling from an enthusiast/tuner perspective, it's great from a value point of view. More $ for storage/GPU/whatever.