I asked my son if he's like 10% extra gaming performance. He was all "nah dad, I'm busy playing games and this is fast enough". He's using the rig in my signature below, so touché son.
That's not really how it works though. When you bought that system in your sig, did you make your CPU purchase decision based on 10%+ extra gaming performance?I asked my son if he's like 10% extra gaming performance. He was all "nah dad, I'm busy playing games and this is fast enough". He's using the rig in my signature below, so touché son.
Hopefully this provides some performance separation in gaming with Zen 4, finally. I don't know enough about the topic to have a good clue, but it certainly should not hurt?AMD to provide patch for ccd latencies.
AMD To Provide Patch That Improves Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" Inter-Core & Chiplet Latency
AMD is reportedly working on a new BIOS patch that will help improve inter-core latency on Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" Desktop CPUs.wccftech.com
Had a minor discussion with the client who was pointing out at MC that 7950x3D bundle was only $120 more than the 7800x3D bundle we were buying. Sure, but what are you doing?Hopefully this provides some performance separation in gaming with Zen 4, finally. I don't know enough about the topic to have a good clue, but it certainly should not hurt?
It certainly does seem that way. I find myself agreeing with the members here saying their focus isn't on PC gaming. This launch supports the assertions.It feels like AMD released Zen 5 for the review community to beta test and investigate bugs. Win 11 update, Bios update, increasing power limit..
Is it? In that specific comparison the 7800X3D is 40% faster. For a chip that launched only a year later. That does not seem like greatest of all time. More like greatest of AM4, which is nice, but a different accolade.If you have not seen the posts by @KompuKare in the speculation thread he has some great numbers to share
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41286215
Zen 5 looking good, but the 5800X3D proves once again, it's the GOAT. +17% average and +15% min. Absolutely bonkers stuff. It's the 1869 Chateau Lafite Rothschild of CPUs. 🍷
Holy S.If you have not seen the posts by @KompuKare in the speculation thread he has some great numbers to share
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ranite-ridge-ryzen-9000.2607350/post-41286215
Zen 5 looking good, but the 5800X3D proves once again, it's the GOAT. +17% average and +15% min. Absolutely bonkers stuff. It's the 1869 Chateau Lafite Rothschild of CPUs. 🍷
To me, yes.Is it?
AM4 and Zen 3 3D are the combo that makes it the GOAT. Again IMO. AM5 is unlikely to be consider with such fondness and respect 10yrs from now. If somehow Zen 5 can improve significantly over Zen 4 I will reconsider my POV.In that specific comparison the 7800X3D is 40% faster. For a chip that launched only a year later. That does not seem like greatest of all time. More like greatest of AM4, which is nice, but a different accolade.
Games selection dictates if it supports the above statements or refutes them.And it was doing poorly in the before category. Around launch the 5800X3D and 7600X were considered about equal in gaming performance but here it is 10% faster than the 5800X3D.
It does but for anyone impressed by the 17% uplift from the patch note that the 7600X was 22% faster before the patch.Games selection dictates if it supports the above statements or refutes them.
Let me try this angle and see if it makes sense to you. Flight and racing sims among some others, really like the big cache. Other games like some combo of the DDR5 bandwidth, single thread and clockspeed the 7600X gets. Select more games that favor the 3D and fewer that favor Zen 4 the numbers change. My point is, it's about the games being played. Some genres of games are under represented in most reviewers suites. Flight and racing sims have hardcore followings so they are relevant but few are ever tested, and certainly not consistently. Those gamers have to test and share with each other because reviewers pay so little attention to them. Despite their being millions that play these titles.It does but for anyone impressed by the 17% uplift from the patch note that the 7600X was 22% faster before the patch. Seems that whatever was wrong simply hurting it more and the patch only restores balance to the world.
The 5800X3D was the first of its kind though so it gets extra brownie points!Is it? In that specific comparison the 7800X3D is 40% faster. For a chip that launched only a year later. That does not seem like greatest of all time. More like greatest of AM4, which is nice, but a different accolade.
And it was doing poorly in the before results. Around launch the 5800X3D and 7600X were considered about equal in gaming performance but here it is still 10% faster than the 5800X3D.
Technically it was a 5950X3D.The 5800X3D was the first of its kind though so it gets extra brownie points!
Thanks to Valve, Linux gaming has massively improved the last couple of years too. I am confident 11 will be the last MS OS I have to use for my gaming.All these patches I keep hearing about are all for windows. No wonder so many use Linux, its always been faster than windows, and now we know why.
AMD released Zen 5 to bait external people who care about platform performance to finally scrutinize Windows which usually doesn't have that luxury.It feels like AMD released Zen 5 for the review community to beta test and investigate bugs. Win 11 update, Bios update, increasing power limit..
It won't change the dynamic between AM4 and AM5. You're ignoring the reason 5800X3D performance increased 17% in this test. It is only because it was abnormally low before. It isn't typical for a 7600X to be 22% ahead of the 5800X3D.Thanks to Valve, Linux gaming has massively improved the last couple of years too. I am confident 11 will be the last MS OS I have to use for my gaming.
Looking forward to more Zen 5 retesting on 11.
@gdansk
Here is a good example. With GN's game suite and testing methodology, the 5800X3D is clearly superior to the 7600X. It slaps it around in a couple of games and never loses by much. Vid will start with first bench. Skim through and check his charts -
I am interested to see how much the update changes the dynamic between them in GN's testing. AM5 is looking good.
I'd take the 7950X3D over the 7800X3D since it has a better binned vcache CCD. +200MHz. Only a small increase over the 7800X3D, but an increase none the less. It's a small amount of money over the 7800X3D. I keep the HF CCD disabled on mine which allows me to not have to install the 3D vcache optimization driver or deal with the XBox overlay. If ever the need arises, I can also go into the BIOS and enable the HF CCD (which has been never thus far).Had a minor discussion with the client who was pointing out at MC that 7950x3D bundle was only $120 more than the 7800x3D bundle we were buying. Sure, but what are you doing?
Gaming.
Well, here's the thing, those extra CPUs don't seem to help that at all, and it makes it all a little more complicated and sometimes even worse. We could spend $120 more on a GPU and get something marginally better.
In the end, we just kept the 7800x3D and 7900XT as it was.
It's not like a 7800x3D is a all purpose slouch, anyway. It seems like some specific use cases are needed to get a multi ccd chip, especially with the 3D cache.