No what they don't want to do is have an overstock of expensive chips using dies that in demand. You still don't seem to understand the economics of businesses yet. AMD is sensitive to unsold stock they have run into this before. The chiplet design means that there is less risk here by slowly ramping up production to meet demand so that they aren't increasing production for pent up demand and therefore don't run into an over supply issue once that pent up demand has been met. If you want to read a little about why this matters, read on how the Wii almost killed Nintendo rather then save them.Situation in the Czech republic:
3900X commonly available, price starting to decrease to the list price level.
3950X nowhere to be found, the largest retailer lists it as "not available", which is weird.
I guess that at AMD they do not care much if people will buy 3950X or the upcoming successor.
We both know the chip AMD should have released.Situation in the Czech republic:
3900X commonly available, price starting to decrease to the list price level.
3950X nowhere to be found, the largest retailer lists it as "not available", which is weird.
I guess that at AMD they do not care much if people will buy 3950X or the upcoming successor.
They are ramping up the production so slowly and carefully that some customers unable to buy the product will give up and instead wait for the successor, which will be here probably after just few months after 3950x becomes commonly available. That is why I wrote that at this point AMD probably does not care if people buy 3950X or the next product. The next product will be possibly even more interesting to customers (even to current Intel users) than the current one anyway.... there is less risk here by slowly ramping up production to meet demand.
They are ramping up the production so slowly and carefully that some customers unable to buy the product will give up and instead wait for the successor, which will be here probably after just few months after 3950x becomes commonly available. That is why I wrote that at this point AMD probably does not care if people buy 3950X or the next product. The next product will be possibly even more interesting to customers (even to current Intel users) than the current one anyway.
Again basic Economics. It is in AMD's best interest, keep short of meeting demand now so that in the long run they don't exceed demand. They aren't keeping them out of the market to get people to buy Ryzen 4k next year. What they are doing is not reacting to shortages in current supply, just because the up front demand is high, to flood the market with high priced products that might not sell well once pent up demand is met.They are ramping up the production so slowly and carefully that some customers unable to buy the product will give up and instead wait for the successor, which will be here probably after just few months after 3950x becomes commonly available. That is why I wrote that at this point AMD probably does not care if people buy 3950X or the next product. The next product will be possibly even more interesting to customers (even to current Intel users) than the current one anyway.
Situation in the Czech republic:
3900X commonly available, price starting to decrease to the list price level.
3950X nowhere to be found, the largest retailer lists it as "not available", which is weird.
I guess that at AMD they do not care much if people will buy 3950X or the upcoming successor.
Sounds a lot like the 10980XE, which also is nowhere to be found for the most part.
Some people have been able to pick them up, so there is some availability, but meme volumes. Especially when you consider this is the third refresh of the same product.3950x has been shipped (seemingly worldwide) in limited quantities. The 10980XE has been shipped no where yet as far as anyone can determine. Best estimate we have on availability so far is mid-February according to the BHPhoto pre-order page.
Some people have been able to pick them up, so there is some availability, but meme volumes. Especially when you consider this is the third refresh of the same product.
Some people have been able to pick them up, so there is some availability, but meme volumes. Especially when you consider this is the third refresh of the same product.
And this is with a 93% yield rate lol.Geez, AMD must be having a hell of a time binning a top pair of 8 core dice.
I don't think thats it. From what I read, and the 3900x availability, its that the existing stock is being sent to OEMs and there is little left for retail. I am sure by Jan or Feb, this will change. The 3900x is now mostly available, and at MSRP.Geez, AMD must be having a hell of a time binning a top pair of 8 core dice.
There has only one indication that OEMs are snapping up the 3950x (Dell/Alienware). It took 4+ months to get good availability on the 3900x, and there was no big OEM buy-in on that cpu.I don't think thats it. From what I read, and the 3900x availability, its that the existing stock is being sent to OEMs and there is little left for retail. I am sure by Jan or Feb, this will change. The 3900x is now mostly available, and at MSRP.
Edit: Its only $494 at Amazon right now ! (the 3900x)
So after you bought and returned so many CPUs as being "defective", which you later admitted you bought and returned a 3900X because you couldn't afford it, returned a 3800X because it was overkill for your PC use, yet you now went out and bought a 3950X?That is a different seller, not newegg. Letting other companies sell stuff on your website is highly questionable in my opinion.
Well the 3950X is being sold at least, I had one. The other day I saw an add from somebody selling his 3900X because he got 3950X. So at least two 3950X have been delivered here, provided he did not buy the same CPU which I returned.
There has only one indication that OEMs are snapping up the 3950x (Dell/Alienware). It took 4+ months to get good availability on the 3900x, and there was no big OEM buy-in on that cpu.
It seems some are appearing now in Eastern Europe. Since launch there were only single digits in stock here, that were immediately sold out. Now, the biggest Estonian retailer seemingly has 20+ in stock (on premise!), though with a very high markup.
Well, $975 USD is better than newegg or amazon right now.Same here in Lithuania, probably Easter/Northern distributors got allocated a lot of units. Plenty of stock @ quite some markup?