I dont know how this is possible, I have been refreshing my browser every 5 seconds for the last 4 or 5 hours. when newegg listed them they listed them as sold out.All 3950X gone now.
German Mindfactory does not have it even listed yet.
Four other large Czech shops do not have it listed either.
Also, I saw some people (reviewers etc) hinting that the availability of 3950X will not be high.
Annoyingly, AMD continues to say they have no problems getting wafers. At this point, I think that statement is rubbish.They have to get into the server market so most of their wafers are producing server chiplets. Until they can demand more wafers over bigger companies using TSMC this is going to be the case.
German Mindfactory does not have it even listed yet.
Four other large Czech shops do not have it listed either.
Also, I saw some people (reviewers etc) hinting that the availability of 3950X will not be high.
Thanks. I have been very surprised by my CH VI Extreme X370 mobo. I'm using a Kraken X72 360mm AIO, with Kingpin KPx thermal paste. I'm just using Ryzen Master, HWMonitor and CPUz. The funny thing is when I first OC'd it, I was able to pretty easily get it all the way up to 4450mhz at 1.26875v. I actually got it to run at 4475mhz for a while, but it was not stable enough to complete three runs on CB R20. So settled on 4450mhz at 1.26875v, and was able to easily run R15, R20 and other benches on multiple runs with no problems.First off, that's an excellent overclock on your chip. What are you using to cool it, and what are you using to measure voltage?
Secondly, the comparison between C8H and Aorus Master is kind of a wash. They're both excellent boards. Aorus Master has some . . . issues with onboard sound and fan behavior for some users. I haven't run into any problems since I'm actually using my video card for sound (Radeon VII) and I keep all my case fans on mobo headers set to max (meaning I don't have any PWM behavior problems). I don't own a C8H but I've heard a few gripes over Asus hiding some fan settings in the UEFI that theoretically could be exposed.
Yes, that is all core static OC. But as I said above, I ruined it by trying to push it too far, and have not been able to recreate it. I do have a screenshot of it though. But now I've only been able to get it back up to 4425mhz at 1.26875v. Which is still good, but not as good as it was. But for an older mobo, I think I have a really good chip.OOC, is that an all core static OC at 4.45G? If so, well done sir. Very well done.
That sounds great!!! I guess I can't really go wrong with either board, but have leaned towards Asus in the last few years. How hard was it to setup your custom loop? That is the one thing I have not been willing to do yet. I've stopped at an AIO, but have an interest IF it isn't too much of a pain in the a$$. But that is an excellent OC. So that gives me incentive to possibly try a custom loop. What equipment do you use and recommend?I have the CH VIII Hero and my 3900x is OCed all core to 4.5 at 1.325V. The board is amazing with massive vrms that could easily support a high OC on the 3950x if needed. The board is pricey but worth it if you have a custom loop which I do.
its actually probably binning, you people do realise that what is desirable for EPYC ( low leakage , lower clocking ) is not what is wanted for high end client ( higher leakage , higher clocking).Annoyingly, AMD continues to say they have no problems getting wafers. At this point, I think that statement is rubbish.
N7 lead time is 6 months. Nothing they can do in the short term.Annoyingly, AMD continues to say they have no problems getting wafers. At this point, I think that statement is rubbish.
Lisa Su said they could get all the wafers AMD needed - and yet, there are shortages. So I'm calling BS.N7 lead time is 6 months. Nothing they can do in the short term.
So AMD should just say what the bottleneck is. Full stop. At least Intel had the guts to admit they couldn’t keep up with demand.its actually probably binning, you people do realise that what is desirable for EPYC ( low leakage , lower clocking ) is not what is wanted for high end client ( higher leakage , higher clocking).
Also dont rule out assembly , testing etc as potential bottlenecks in terms of supply chain.
I think the most damning part is that the 3900X is out of stock on Amazon every time I look. It isn't in AMD's interest to have shortages but it appears they either have not or cannot order enough processors to meet demand.The 3950X was basically a paper launch. Microcenter stores each got 2 or 3 dozen of them at most from what I've been told and read post of from people who waited in line before opening at various locations. Newegg and Amazon sold out in under 1 or 2 minutes because they got so few. All the other vendors I found either sold out immediately or didn't get any stock for launch day.
its actually probably binning, you people do realise that what is desirable for EPYC ( low leakage , lower clocking ) is not what is wanted for high end client ( higher leakage , higher clocking).
Also dont rule out assembly , testing etc as potential bottlenecks in terms of supply chain.
This isn't just a supply issue. I think AMD expected solid demand. The demand has been absurd. Discussed this with the Microcenter guys from a mainstream end and they're seeing far more AMD units moving than even on Zen+ launch. Intel is sitting on shelves rotting. For HEDT they state that when the financial guys come in and state they just want the fastest chip for their heavy multithreaded, multi-program workload, they present Intel and AMD, and the users are taking AMD due to core count and cost. So in the end, I think it's not just supply / binning, it's also that demand is (good for AMD) outstripping even their expectations.They've actually stated that there is no supply problem just that they don't have enough chips that can bin for the specs. I am assuming the Epyc 7H12 (high clocked 64 core) that popped up after launch is using a lot of great chiplets as well.
This isn't just a supply issue. I think AMD expected solid demand. The demand has been absurd. Discussed this with the Microcenter guys from a mainstream end and they're seeing far more AMD units moving than even on Zen+ launch. Intel is sitting on shelves rotting. For HEDT they state that when the financial guys come in and state they just want the fastest chip for their heavy multithreaded, multi-program workload, they present Intel and AMD, and the users are taking AMD due to core count and cost. So in the end, I think it's not just supply / binning, it's also that demand is (good for AMD) outstripping even their expectations.
Of course, my above experience is anecdotal and I have no idea how the market is outside of this one Microcenter Dallas store.
AMD needs to release the 3600 x2Exactly, Mindfactory data shows AMD selling more than AMD + Intel combined at the same time last year for the first 3 months after release. The problem is, there are just not enough high end chips in the ratio to lower end chips to meet high end demand. I wonder if AMD will make non-X versions of the >8 core processor to at least fill demand for those who don't need the chips for gaming.
But, how much of current AMD higher-core-count demand for AM4 CPUs, is from prior AM4 AMD CPU/APU customers, and how much of it is from Haswell/Skylake Intel 4C/4T or 4C/8T customers, looking to move up in core counts cheaply, and make that platform switch?Guess I'm glad I got open box 3900x from Microcenter when I did. I was casually thinking of 3950x, but at this rate even if I do find it in stock it's hard to pay $750+tax when Zen3 is only 7-8 months away. Hopefully AMD will plan better for Zen3 launch.
So right now it is OC'd to 4425mhz at 1.26875v.
AMD needs to release the 3600 x2